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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 2:44:04 GMT -5
Your hair is gorgeous. It looks great on you. Please leave it alone. I understand about to much hair. I have to much. but wavy. I also leave the house with it wet because I'm not good with a blow dryer , it can go frizzy if I do it wrong, but it takes forever to dry. I often leave with it half wet in a pony tail. It looks stupid like that but then looks better (like less thick) when I take it out of the pony tail . I really think your hair looks great the way it is. Don't start messing with it until it looks crappy. Then you really have no choice. My mom said her hair got a lot thinner as she got older. I'm still waiting for that.
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Post by Opti on Jul 16, 2014 6:14:11 GMT -5
Have you ever tried putting your hair up with hair sticks? It takes a little practice, but one you get the hang of it, it's bulletproof. I'll see if I can find some info. One piece of advice it's to use ones that aren't. super slick. They don't hold as well. I'm pretty sure that only works for people with thinner hair.
I too, have thick hair although mine is wavy. I do put in a ponytail fairly often, however, its a low ponytail because of the weight of my hair. I'd just recommend shortening to a length that looks good on you but is less heavy. Shoulder length is too short for me to be able to put in a ponytail, so I've gone to a length which I consider the top of my chest, about two to three inches down from the top of your armpit.
I also don't blow dry my hair mainly because it takes too long and I think it can damage one's hair. Yes people still think shorter hair is more professional as one gets older, but the shorter it is, the more maintenance it is for those who have thick hair. JMO.
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Post by michelyn8 on Jul 16, 2014 6:43:31 GMT -5
Your hair is awesome. Maybe trim it up, layer it a bit...but I wouldn't change much! It's really not awesome. I sometimes feel like cousin it. I've avoided layers because they look like crap if you don't blow dry your hair. I walk out of the house with wet hair every morning. Although, if Zibs Keratin treatment works, maybe I can start blow drying it (assuming I learn how to use that rounded brush!). The trick to using a rounded brush is to dry your hair in sections - especially if you have thick hair. Does your hair also frizz? That's the only reason I bother blow drying mine because if I don't, it poufs below my ears and no amount of touch up with a straightening iron can help it. If you really liked the style you got for your 10 year reunion, why don't you go back to that stylist and ask them to teach you how it was done? I have fine hair texture but a lot of it. I can put my hair in a pony tail or pull it back before it dries completely and at the end of the day its still damp where it was bunched together. And I really understand about not being able to get it all in a clip or a pony tail being to heavy - I had those issues when I was younger. Good news is that it will thin out some as you get older so be grateful for it now. My oldest sister has fine hair texture like me but no where near the mass and as she has aged it has gotten very thin looking (she's 57 now). I wouldn't let your age determine your hair length until you get past 50 (which you aren't even close to and from that gorgeous pic won't even resemble when you get there) and even then some women can still pull off longish hair. I'd try crown layers and longish side bangs before going with full bangs. That way if you don't like them, they will grow out faster. And if you want to go shorter, do it in stages. Maybe get an inch or so cut off every six weeks until you get to a length you like. If you go to short to soon you may find all that hair just turns into a big pouf ball which will make you even more unhappy with it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 6:50:39 GMT -5
I think the color looks great too so i wouldnt even do highlights. It can dry out your hair. Why mess with a good thing?
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Post by Opti on Jul 16, 2014 6:59:31 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that only works for people with thinner hair.
I too, have thick hair although mine is wavy. I do put in a ponytail fairly often, however, its a low ponytail because of the weight of my hair. I'd just recommend shortening to a length that looks good on you but is less heavy. Shoulder length is too short for me to be able to put in a ponytail, so I've gone to a length which I consider the top of my chest, about two to three inches down from the top of your armpit.
I also don't blow dry my hair mainly because it takes too long and I think it can damage one's hair. Yes people still think shorter hair is more professional as one gets older, but the shorter it is, the more maintenance it is for those who have thick hair. JMO.
I have super thick hair, and used to use sticks all the time. I think it's better with thick hair, as thin hair doesn't have enough structure to hold. Like I said, it takes a bit of practice, but I successfully rode roller coasters with hair sticks staying in place. I'll take your word for it. The only people I've seen do this successfully in my life have thinner hair than I do. I used to put my hair in a ponytail and then a claw clip it to the top of my head to shower. That's heavy enough that I rarely do it longer than a shower even at home when no one can see how utilitarian it is.
I would think using the hair sticks would put a lot of weight on the top of your head with heavy hair.
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Post by goldensam on Jul 16, 2014 7:01:43 GMT -5
Your hair is gorgeous!
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Post by goldensam on Jul 16, 2014 7:23:01 GMT -5
I get it. I have very different hair than you: blonde, very curly, fine but thick. I also feel like I am pretty much stuck with one hairstyle forever. I can't straighten it because the Houston humidity would have it in a frizzy mess in 5 minutes. Plus, I frankly don't think I look good with straight hair anymore. I'm so used to it curly now. It started going curly around my early teens and just kept going. I fought it for a long time. So while I've learned to care for it better over the years and use the right products to make it look good, I feel like I've had the same hair for years.
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Post by Cookies Galore on Jul 16, 2014 7:24:13 GMT -5
This is what I was thinking about doing, especially the "do it in stages" part, but I feel like such a baby. Women chop their hair off and try new styles all the time. It's just hair, right? <wrongside tries to convince herself> These women have the right hair type and/or a team of stylists and all the time in the world! Lol. I think gradually making changes (long layers, side bangs, etc.) is the way to go. Some of us don't have the luxury to say "it's just hair"!
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Post by michelyn8 on Jul 16, 2014 7:30:56 GMT -5
This is what I was thinking about doing, especially the "do it in stages" part, but I feel like such a baby. Women chop their hair off and try new styles all the time. It's just hair, right? <wrongside tries to convince herself> I'm always cutting layers then growing them out. Starting to grow out my bangs and then getting them again because I think I look odd without them. Getting layers around my face and then growing them out because I get tired of the mess I end up with when I pull my hair back. I used to cut my hair up to my shoulders or above about every two years then grow it back out. My last haircut (early June) was the first time in 5 years I cut it up to my shoulders and I'm still adjusting. I'm also growing my bangs out and this is the first time since I was 15 that they've been this long (tip of my nose - I rarely get them longer than just below my eyes when I try to do this). I'm seriously considering cutting them back because not having them seems to highlight how close set my eyes are and how much I look like my mother. I keep telling myself I'll wait til they hit my mouth and then decide and that will give me time to grow out more length in the back again. We'll see if I make it. Don't feel like a baby. Our hair is a large part of who we are for some of us and any noticeable change is going to elicit comments both positive and negative. That's attention we don't always feel comfortable bringing on ourselves.
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Post by Opti on Jul 16, 2014 7:39:36 GMT -5
I'll take your word for it. The only people I've seen do this successfully in my life have thinner hair than I do. I used to put my hair in a ponytail and then a claw clip it to the top of my head to shower. That's heavy enough that I rarely do it longer than a shower even at home when no one can see how utilitarian it is.
I would think using the hair sticks would put a lot of weight on the top of your head with heavy hair.
So you've never tried it, but are telling me it won't work. Gotcha. No, I said:
"I'm pretty sure that only works for people with thinner hair"
That's what's known as an opinion. I'm entitled to it. I did not state it as fact.
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Post by sarcasticgirl on Jul 16, 2014 7:47:01 GMT -5
I have pretty thick hair myself though it is naturally curly. I can't change styles... I just is what it is. I wear it in long layers with some framing around the face.
Whatever you do, don't let anyone use thinning shears on your hair. I have had so many people try to do that to me. NO! Bad idea.
I wish I had more advice for you... My hair is longer than it was in HS and a different color, but otherwise it is pretty much the same style.
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Post by swamp on Jul 16, 2014 7:48:33 GMT -5
Just wanted to say I think you have very pretty hair!
I wondered if you've ever had your hair professionally conditioned? Otherwise, maybe consider changing your hair to shoulder length to reduce the weight. Thank you. I don't ever have my hair professionally done. My mom cuts it for me. What do you think about highlights? My hair is actually darker than it appears in that picture. It was really sunny that day. Go see a stylist. I agree with the inverted Bob.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Jul 16, 2014 7:49:02 GMT -5
I still say you really need to shake it up. Chop it all off and donate it. Your hair will make someone very happy. Then do a pixie-type haircut. Very cute look, IMHO.
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Post by sarcasticgirl on Jul 16, 2014 7:54:15 GMT -5
I have super thick hair, and used to use sticks all the time. I think it's better with thick hair, as thin hair doesn't have enough structure to hold. Like I said, it takes a bit of practice, but I successfully rode roller coasters with hair sticks staying in place. I'll take your word for it. The only people I've seen do this successfully in my life have thinner hair than I do. I used to put my hair in a ponytail and then a claw clip it to the top of my head to shower. That's heavy enough that I rarely do it longer than a shower even at home when no one can see how utilitarian it is.
I would think using the hair sticks would put a lot of weight on the top of your head with heavy hair.
[/q] It doesn't work or work well at all with thin hair. It is an Asian style... Have you ever seen a Japanese woman with insanely long and thick hair pin it up with hair sticks? I used to do it all the time about 10-15/years ago when my hair was so thick I could barely wrap a hair band around it. And by that I mean put my hair into a band in it's full diameter. Sent from my Nexus 4 using proboards
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Post by The Captain on Jul 16, 2014 8:01:00 GMT -5
People think having thick hair would be great, but it totally sucks. It's too heavy to put into a ponytail or to use any type of clip or barrette. I can't do anything with it. I feel you pain. I have thick slightly wavy hair. DD has ridicously think wavy/curly hair. I've been told to treat her hair with "ethnic" products. I'm still learning . Saw the picture, If you're really looking to mix it up I would go with a short layered bob. It's a cut that looks good on anyone and works especially well with thick hair. I have mine cut that way and it works well.
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Post by The Captain on Jul 16, 2014 8:31:31 GMT -5
OMG, ArchietheDragon. I would look hideous if I chopped off ALL my hair. Some of my facial features are strong (jawline, cheek bones) and IMO, it's masculine looking. I don't want to cut my hair short. I'll look like a dude. Wrong. There is no way you'd ever look like a dude, even bald, you're cute as a button! I'm kinda with Archie (shocker!) go big or go home. I just donated 12 inches to locks of love a few months back for the third time in my life. It's nice to mix it up every now and then.
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Post by sbcalimom on Jul 16, 2014 8:32:41 GMT -5
Wrongside - I have extremely thick hair and until a few years ago always kept it long and straight because I just didn't know what to do with it. After my girls were born I couldn't deal with the 8+ hours it would take to dry so I started cutting it shorter. I always thought I looked terrible with short hair but I realized it was mostly that I was going to bad stylists who weren't cutting it to fit my face.
I gradually went up to almost a pixie cut over about a year. The trick is to find a stylist that really listens to you and knows what they're doing.
I tried a few before I found one I really like but I once I did I told her - I'm useless with styling because I don't have the skills or the time so whatever you do has to require little to no styling for normal wear. I want it as short as I can make it where it still looks good. And, take out whatever bulk you can.
Now, I love my style and get TONS of compliments on it without doing anything to it. Plus since it's so short and she takes out the bulk, it dries in like 30 minutes.
This is not to say you should cut your hair but just wanted to tell you it is possible to find a style you never expected to work.
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 16, 2014 8:42:56 GMT -5
... The trick is to find a stylist that really listens to you and knows what they're doing. ... I have had a couple over the years at different places I lived. Had one that I would walk in, say I was tired of the look - change it, and I would walk out looking great. I currently do community theatre. I walk into my current stylist and tell her my next role and time period and she styles my hair appropriately.
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 16, 2014 8:54:25 GMT -5
Short hair really emphasizes your eyes and your features. You probably would look awesome because you're gorgeous and not much, except a MOHAWK, is going to ruin that. Start calling salons, and try to find someone who was trained, preferably in a humid area, to do keratins. I'm almost at a point up here because no one knows how to do it and I won't get back to Florida until November most likely, to go to an ethnic place and let them try. They do awesome braiding. Do I ever get looks being the only white person in the black hair place in the bad area!! But my hair always looks freakin awesome when I walk out because they know their shit. I'm sure they all laugh their asses off at me when I leave but I could care less. Love my braids.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Jul 16, 2014 9:08:28 GMT -5
OMG, ArchietheDragon. I would look hideous if I chopped off ALL my hair. Some of my facial features are strong (jawline, cheek bones) and IMO, it's masculine looking. I don't want to cut my hair short. I'll look like a dude. Dudes can be good looking too.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Jul 16, 2014 9:10:04 GMT -5
Are you kidding? I love your hair. You're a hottie! Why would you mess with any of you? BTW, you wanna trade hair? I have long thick curly hair. The 1980s keeps calling me...the decade wants ALL its hair back.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 9:22:47 GMT -5
I'm no expert, but I don't think really short hair would look good on wrongside. I understand what she's saying about having strong features and having to be careful to not end up looking masculine. It's something I'm cautious about too.
Someone mentioned an inverted bob, I think those are awesome on women with thick hair. You'll still have hair around your face, inverted bobs have a lot of variations. The only thing is, if you don't get bangs or something, the angle of the cut is going to make your hair stay in your face constantly whenever you tilt your head down. Or you could just get long layers cut into it and keep most of your length. A good layered cut looks polished.
If I were you, I'd be on the lookout for women with great hair where you live. Ask them who does their hair. Most women don't mind that question, at least not where I live. It's very important that you get a good stylist since you're already uncomfortable with cutting your hair at all. And you need a stylist that can cut hair into whatever style you end up going for.
My hair wasn't nearly as long as yours, it was a little past my shoulders and I had a lot of it cut off a few months ago. It's an inverted bob, so it doesn't look radically different from the front. The side view and the back is what makes the cut. I let my regular stylist cut it off and she messed it up. I'd only ever let her cut layers into my hair, and now I know that's pretty much the only cut she does excellent with. I had to find someone to fix it the next day. The new stylist suggested side bangs since I have a "broad" (nice word for BIG) forehead. I told her go for it. I've worn bangs before, so no big deal.
I'm not afraid to play with my hair, as long as it's done right. I'll let it grow and be plain Jane for a while, then I'll do something different even if it's only getting highlights. This time, not only did I cut it off, but a few weeks ago I put a rinse that's an unnatural color in it. My highlights turned a bit brighter than I wanted them, but I don't dislike it. My hair is definitely different from how it was a few months ago. lol
Having a hair cut that you like and that looks good on you helps make you feel fabulous. I hope you come up with something you're happy with.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 9:24:37 GMT -5
Short hair really emphasizes your eyes and your features. You probably would look awesome because you're gorgeous and not much, except a MOHAWK, is going to ruin that. Start calling salons, and try to find someone who was trained, preferably in a humid area, to do keratins. I'm almost at a point up here because no one knows how to do it and I won't get back to Florida until November most likely, to go to an ethnic place and let them try. They do awesome braiding. Do I ever get looks being the only white person in the black hair place in the bad area!! But my hair always looks freakin awesome when I walk out because they know their shit. I'm sure they all laugh their asses off at me when I leave but I could care less. Love my braids. I'd love to see your braids!
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jul 16, 2014 9:27:05 GMT -5
Stylists don't like working with my hair either. In the past, I've always mentioned how thick my hair is when making an appointment, but it always takes much, much longer than the stylist anticipated
Do you have a beauty school near you?
I figured out stylists don't like me because I cut into their chair time. They are like servers in that they count on tips, the faster the turn around the better.
So I started going to the beauty school in town. The students are supervised by instructors and the instructors know they shit because they have to teach it every single day. The students will listen and take the time to do it right because each client gets graded and it counts towards their credits. It's in their best interest to take their time. It does come with some risk because the student could botch something but I can't leave till an instructor goes over my hair first, anything the student screws up they will correct. So far in the several years I've been going I've never seen a student do something that could not be corrected. Besides it's hair. .. it'll grow back.
They've done a fantastic job on me every time I've gone and it's WAY cheaper than a regular salon.
I know some people are REALLY opposed to the idea, but it's something to consider. I've learned a ton going there because I listen when the instructors talk. If I ever decided to go elsewhere I am in a much better position to communicate exactly what I want b/c now I know the proper lingo.
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Post by Cookies Galore on Jul 16, 2014 9:55:25 GMT -5
I used to do this too. The other added benefit is that you know your stylist is current in education. This is also a very important aspect of finding a good stylist. I tend to lean towards Aveda Salons. I know they have pretty rigorous continuing education requirements. I had a great stylist years ago (early 90's) that I finally stopped seeing, she moved from and Aveda salon to an independent and just didn't keep up her education outside of the state requirements. She then got stuck in a time warp as far as styles and cuts. When you look around to other women's hairstyles to find a stylist. Try to spot ones with thick hair. It won't do you any good to find a cute hair cut and find out stylist, only to find that the stylist doesn't work well with your type of hair. I go to an Aveda salon as well. I love it! The pre-shampoo scalp and shoulder massage is the best! I used to go to an Aveda Institute when a friend of mine was in their school. She does fantastic hair. A guy I used to mess around with went to the same Aveda school; he did the BEST hair!
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Post by The Captain on Jul 16, 2014 10:38:53 GMT -5
sbcalimom, do you think that you have "soft" features? I'm not trying to nitpick myself, but I really do have "harsh" features. I'm not fishing for compliments, but I really don't think I have the kind of face to pull off short hair. Also, my eyes are REALLY big and I think short hair would make them even more prominent (bug eyes). I want to be brave like The Captain and I keep telling myself "it's just hair", but if I ever go short it will be a sloooowwwww and gradual process. Not to minimize your feelings, but the folks who get the wigs are the brave ones, the ones donating their hair not so much so.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 10:51:03 GMT -5
All this talk about pinning your hair up.......... I envy women that can just pull their hair back and pin it up or put it in a ponytail and still look good. That is not a good look for me at all. The 2 or 3 times in my life I've ever worn my hair like that, not only was I having an awful hair day, I just didn't give a crap in general that day. I've always wished I could wear my hair up. I'm jealous!
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Post by Abby Normal on Jul 16, 2014 11:36:21 GMT -5
The key is finding a good stylist that will work with you. The problem you are having is that you are used to a "wash and go" look. It takes time and practice to style your hair. But if you can get that look by letting it air dry, I'm extremely jealous.
I have always had thick curly hair. Until I got pregnant, then it went straight for a while. Then depending on my hormones it went curly/straight back and forth all the time. My stylist called it magic hair and she would have to cut it do look good with whatever the hell my hair felt like doing from week to week.
But be careful what you wish for. I've always wished for thinner hair. After I had my allergic reaction to anitbiotics, I started loosing my hair. I would cry in the shower every morning. Thank god I had a lot, because I had about 1/3 of it left by the time I was done.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jul 16, 2014 11:37:31 GMT -5
Whenever I complain about my hair, DH points to his bald head and tells me to shut up.
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