Commerative W Bush T-shirt

[Opti]

Time to get your 'I miss W' t-shirt just days after W's bday.

www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/gop-selling-w-t-shirts-honor-george-w-bush-birthday-article-1.1856669

Absence apparently makes the GOP’s heart grow fonder.

The Republican National Committee has put on sale T-shirts celebrating former President George W. Bush’s tumultuous tenure in the White House.

The shirts, which sell for $27 each and were put on sale in honor of Bush’s 68th birthday Sunday, feature print that reads “I Miss W,” alongside a picture of the 43rd U.S. President.

Profits from the shirt, released more than six years after Bush left the Oval Office with the U.S. economy in shambles and amid dismal approval ratings, go to the RNC.

According to a CBS News/New York Times poll conducted in January 2009, Bush's final approval rating in office was 22%, the second-lowest rating for a President leaving office ever.

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[Value Buy]

Will, the Dems never missed him.

They are still blaming him for everything, rather than look in the mirror standing with their President, and see where the problem is today.

[Opti]

VB, some Dems to be sure. Personally I think Bush senior, W, and Obama are more

alike in how they did major decisions in their Presidencies than different.

I blame both W and Obama for the money we've poured into the wars and TARP.

Both also put money into green energy with not much apparent payoff.

[djAdvocate]

Jul 15, 2014 8:31:59 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Will, the Dems never missed him.

They are still blaming him for everything, rather than look in the mirror standing with their President, and see where the problem is today.

i blame him for plenty.  but here is what i DON'T blame him for:

1) 911
2) two wars in the ME
3) the fact that revenues are still below historical norms, driving up the deficit
4) medicare part B
5) our loathsome global reputation since 2003
6) the PATRIOT Act
7) GITMO

i think he has done no better than Bush in terms of drones, spending, spying, and the VA.

[djAdvocate]

Jul 15, 2014 8:24:30 GMT -5 Opti said:

Time to get your 'I miss W' t-shirt just days after W's bday.

www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/gop-selling-w-t-shirts-honor-george-w-bush-birthday-article-1.1856669

Absence apparently makes the GOP’s heart grow fonder.

The Republican National Committee has put on sale T-shirts celebrating former President George W. Bush’s tumultuous tenure in the White House.

The shirts, which sell for $27 each and were put on sale in honor of Bush’s 68th birthday Sunday, feature print that reads “I Miss W,” alongside a picture of the 43rd U.S. President.

that is so fucked up that i am speechless.

[Opti]

Jul 15, 2014 12:13:21 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jul 15, 2014 8:24:30 GMT -5 Opti said:

Time to get your 'I miss W' t-shirt just days after W's bday.

www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/gop-selling-w-t-shirts-honor-george-w-bush-birthday-article-1.1856669

Absence apparently makes the GOP’s heart grow fonder.

The Republican National Committee has put on sale T-shirts celebrating former President George W. Bush’s tumultuous tenure in the White House.

The shirts, which sell for $27 each and were put on sale in honor of Bush’s 68th birthday Sunday, feature print that reads “I Miss W,” alongside a picture of the 43rd U.S. President.

that is so fucked up that i am speechless.

I think they are hoping to ride the anti-Obama sentiment to make money for the coffers.

The T-shirt is more the means than anything else. But, I could be wrong.

[Deleted]

Jul 15, 2014 12:13:21 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jul 15, 2014 8:24:30 GMT -5 Opti said:

Time to get your 'I miss W' t-shirt just days after W's bday.

www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/gop-selling-w-t-shirts-honor-george-w-bush-birthday-article-1.1856669

Absence apparently makes the GOP’s heart grow fonder.

The Republican National Committee has put on sale T-shirts celebrating former President George W. Bush’s tumultuous tenure in the White House.

The shirts, which sell for $27 each and were put on sale in honor of Bush’s 68th birthday Sunday, feature print that reads “I Miss W,” alongside a picture of the 43rd U.S. President.

that is so fucked up that i am speechless.

I want one.   Edit; Being one of the good ole boys down here goes a long way!

[djAdvocate]

Jul 15, 2014 12:16:45 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Jul 15, 2014 12:13:21 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

that is so fucked up that i am speechless.

I want one.   Edit; Being one of the good ole boys down here goes a long way!

still speechless.

[djAdvocate]

Jul 15, 2014 8:31:59 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Will, the Dems never missed him.

They are still blaming him for everything, rather than look in the mirror standing with their President, and see where the problem is today.

some of the Repubs will never miss him, either. 

[Sam_2.0]

I could see these making some great white-elephant gifts for Christmas (appropriate on so many levels). But I really don't want to give the RNC my money.

[Deleted]

I am in agreement that I'd love to buy one (or something like it)... but only if the RNC didn't get the proceeds. I don't support "the big two"

[Value Buy]

Years ago I received a gag gift for Christmas.

It was a talking George Bush stand up "doll" . When you pressed the button it either gave you an appropriate sentence from one of his speeches, or one of his fax paux sentences. Still sits on my nightstand next to the bed. We both laugh about it.

Sometimes for a good laugh, my wife pushes the button after we are in bed, just for the heck of it. She is always hoping for the poor grammar sentence.

I wonder if I should put it up on EBAY

[djAdvocate]

now THAT i would buy. 

i have no problem knocking W.  especially if the $ to go an individual, not a political organization. 

[happyhoix]

Absence apparently makes the GOP’s heart grow fonder.

I think both parties do this.

When Clinton left office he was a little nuclear, due to the whole Monica thing, and attempt at impeachment. Not all dems wanted to be seen around him.

Now, with the passage of time, he's become an honored senior stateman, at least for the dems.

I would guess most presidents start to look better after a while, once the mud gets washed off and the shit storm subsides.

Personally I never liked Bush much, due to the whole Iraq war thing, and I haven't grown more fond of him in retirement because of the way he's chosen to spend his time - hanging out at his ranch, painting, etc. While I didn't think Carter was an effective president, either, at least the man has spent his retirement tirelessly working for Habitat for Humanity and other humanitarian causes.

Ex presidents still have a lot of political clout and can use it for various good causes, like Clinton and Carter did, rather than piddle away their time on golf and painting.

[Tennesseer]

Jul 18, 2014 12:39:14 GMT -5 deminmaine said:

Golf is not piddling Sir Madam.

No. It is 'a good walk spoiled'.

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Jul 18, 2014 12:31:07 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Absence apparently makes the GOP’s heart grow fonder.

I think both parties do this.

When Clinton left office he was a little nuclear, due to the whole Monica thing, and attempt at impeachment. Not all dems wanted to be seen around him.

Now, with the passage of time, he's become an honored senior stateman, at least for the dems.

I would guess most presidents start to look better after a while, once the mud gets washed off and the shit storm subsides.

Personally I never liked Bush much, due to the whole Iraq war thing, and I haven't grown more fond of him in retirement because of the way he's chosen to spend his time - hanging out at his ranch, painting, etc. While I didn't think Carter was an effective president, either, at least the man has spent his retirement tirelessly working for Habitat for Humanity and other humanitarian causes.

Ex presidents still have a lot of political clout and can use it for various good causes, like Clinton and Carter did, rather than piddle away their time on golf and painting.

One persons piddling is anothers retirement. Not everyone has a bleeding heart personna. After all the bad mouthing by the media I'm surprised he doesn't have a stiff upright middle finger also, but being classless was Clinton's gig.

[happyhoix]

Not everyone has a bleeding heart personna.

Didn't say he had to be an activist for squishy things like Habitat for Humanity like Carter is.

Look at Dick Cheney. He's out there using his platform as a former VP to beat the drum for tougher military action in the middle east.

Being an ex-president gives you a powerful opportunity to promote whatever it is you believe firmly in. Bush could come out in favor of defending the right to bear arms, or, since his wife is an ex school teacher, he could heavily promote charter schools. Or being from Texas he could lobby for whatever kind of immigration reform he thinks is appropriate. Hell he doesn't even need to leave his house, he can just be available to be remotely interviewed by the talking head shows from the comfort of his own living room.

He's wasting a good opportunity to promote the causes he believes in by hanging around the ranch.

The only thing I can figure is he's trying to disappear from the political arena just in case Jeb runs in 2016. Given his unpopularity, I wonder if the family political advisors have suggested the best way he can help Jeb is to just be invisible.

[happyhoix]

Jul 18, 2014 14:13:19 GMT -5 deminmaine said:

Jul 18, 2014 12:45:37 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

No. It is 'a good walk spoiled'.

That it may well be at times Sir, but it is NOT piddling! 

Meh. My only contact with golf was when I volunteered for a charity event. I had to stand out at one of the tees and sell something - I think it was some kind of hole in one contest. All I remember was that most of the guys were drunk, they all wore garish pants, and even though I had on a wedding ring and was dressed nicely in a sundress and flat sandals (no cleavage, high heels or short skirt) a good number of the boozy geezers hit on me.  (I guess the good part was that after leering at me and making suggestive comments they usually bought a ticket from me). 

I am willing to consider that my limited experience was not typical, though, and most golfers are gentlemen and ladies 

 



 

[happyhoix]

Jul 18, 2014 15:04:32 GMT -5 deminmaine said:

Jul 18, 2014 14:56:01 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Meh. My only contact with golf was when I volunteered for a charity event. I had to stand out at one of the tees and sell something - I think it was some kind of hole in one contest. All I remember was that most of the guys were drunk, they all wore garish pants, and even though I had on a wedding ring and was dressed nicely in a sundress and flat sandals (no cleavage, high heels or short skirt) a good number of the boozy geezers hit on me.  (I guess the good part was that after leering at me and making suggestive comments they usually bought a ticket from me). 

I am willing to consider that my limited experience was not typical, though, and most golfers are gentlemen and ladies 

 



 

Oh my Madam, you were most certainly NOT at my course!

While we may be geezers, we do not wear garish pants, nor do most of us drink alcohol before the conclusion of our round, if then.  However women are- most unfortunately- not well represented at our course.  Therefore you may have to field some rather silly questions. 

I wonder how many of those boozy geezers were married?

I'm guessing more than a few. And I should clarify at the time, I was in my early twenties, so 'geezers' meant the guys were mostly 40 - 60 - I have since changed my definition of 'geezers.'

I will have to say, I've driven past the Augusta golf course and while I'm not interested in the game of golf, they do have some really beautiful courses to play it on.  So if I ever got invited to actually stroll around and watch a golf tournament I would probably enjoy it, even if I paid no attention to the golf at all. As opposed to a sport like NASCAR, where the noise and fumes would quickly have me clawing my way to the exit.

[billisonboard]

Jul 18, 2014 14:45:26 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

...
Being an ex-president gives you a powerful opportunity to promote whatever it is you believe firmly in. ...

What does an ex-president do if they don't firmly believe in anything but were simply a mouthpiece for others?

[Ryan]

In hindsight, the Iraq war was a bad idea. But it didn’t seem that crazy at the time coming off 9/11, anthrax going through the postal system, and all the stuff that SH was doing at the time.

They are both pretty equal when it comes to overall typical politicians though.

[happyhoix]

Jul 21, 2014 8:41:36 GMT -5 deminmaine said:

Well, you may not be interested in the game of golf, but you have already discovered one of it's benefits. I don't belong to a high end club, and certainly not one to use anywhere near the same breath as Augusta National.  Be that as it may, one of the pleasures of going out after work and hitting the ball around for a few holes is of going for a nice walk in a beautiful and peaceful place, especially after a stressful day.  It can be a great way of decompressing and getting some beneficial exercise at the same time.  Plus, every once in a while, you get to hit a great golf shot.  What's not to like?

I could see how, if I had any eye to hand coordination at all, that might be a fun sport for me.

Instead I walk on a treadmill every night and try not to fall off it. Not nearly as nice as walking a golf course I'm sure, at least until they invent a virtual reality treadmill where you seem to be walking through Augusta.

Or running from a rabid bear - that might finally get me to stop being lazy on the treadmill....

[happyhoix]

Jul 21, 2014 9:03:24 GMT -5 Ryan said:

In hindsight, the Iraq war was a bad idea. But it didn’t seem that crazy at the time coming off 9/11, anthrax going through the postal system, and all the stuff that SH was doing at the time.

They are both pretty equal when it comes to overall typical politicians though.

Seemed crazy to some of us. Saddam had nothing - nothing at all - to do with 911. In fact Saddam had an adversarial relationship with the Taliban. Sure he said threatening things about the US, but countries can't invade other countries based just on the use of 'fighting words' - otherwise we'd also be at war with Russia and North Korea, even as we speak. The evidence for MDF's was always very, very weak. I remember watching the TV news reports at the start of that war with the sick feeling like I was in a Kafka novel.

I never understood how so many Americans rushed so eagerly into war with Iraq, except maybe that, to many Americans, one brown skinned muslim person is pretty much the same as another. That doesn't excuse the news media, though, who sat back and weakly waved their little American flags - journalists are supposed to be the ones rummaging in the trash bins and peering into the cracks, finding all the bullshit and dragging it into the light of day.

[billisonboard]

Jul 21, 2014 10:14:37 GMT -5 deminmaine said:

I remember all of that as if it were yesterday. I tried, really tried, to understand why we needed to invade Iraq.  Bear in mind that at the time we were in a period of post 911 national unity and also very comfortable with what the President did going into Afghanistan and after bin Ladin.  So, with all that, I tried very hard to understand the rationale behind Iraq.  After all, the President knew information that we don't, right?

But the closer we got in the build up to war in March 2003, the more it became sickeningly apparent that there really was no good rationale, and no justifiable reason for invading Iraq.  There were no WMD's, or even an effective program remaining, and the UN inspectors were on the ground in Iraq.  In fact, they were pleading for more time, and for us NOT to invade.  There was no connection to 911 or Al Qaida.  There was no reason at all to invade that country.  As the build up reached a fever pitch I realized that the president was either an idiot, or he was lying.  He is not an idiot.

And then I took a day to drive to the big city and joined a march against that invasion. The police pinned us in. I remembered the promise I had made to my wife to not get arrested. I was by the doors of a small toy store. An employee was starting to close a gate across part of the door. I asked if I could go in. She said the other side of the door was still open. I said yes but there is a police standing right in front of it. She smiled and opened the gate a little so I could slip through. In the store they were guiding people through their storeroom and out their back delivery door.

[dondub]

 
But the closer we got in the build up to war in March 2003, the more it became sickeningly apparent that there really was no good rationale, and no justifiable reason for invading Iraq.

During an interview I heard with Greg Palast, my favorite investigative reporter (gregpalast.com) he said we all had it wrong on Iraq. That the real reason we invaded was to keep their oil in the ground. Saddam was making noises and threatening to produce well beyond the set OPEC quotas. This would dramatically have lowered the price per barrel and caused major difficulties with the OPEC nations and others. The Saudis, in particular, were distressed. So BushCo. lied us into war.

 In the runup, Daddy Bush and his cohorts invested heavily in depressed munitions manufacturers through the Carlyle Group. Cheney, having been CEO of war profiteer Halliburton, was exercising a conflict of interest in his pushing for war. Brown~Root had been profiteering from American military actions since they supported LBJ and then made billions on Vietnam. So follow the money all the way from the Saudi's and their propped up oil price, to the Carlyle group/Halliburton/Brown~Root and the billions in profits made from this exercise in American fascism.

[happyhoix]

During an interview I heard with Greg Palast, my favorite investigative reporter (gregpalast.com) he said we all had it wrong on Iraq. That the real reason we invaded was to keep their oil in the ground. Saddam was making noises and threatening to produce well beyond the set OPEC quotas. This would dramatically have lowered the price per barrel and caused major difficulties with the OPEC nations and others. The Saudis, in particular, were distressed. So BushCo. lied us into war.

I believe prior to the Iraq war the French and the Russians partnered with Iraq to distribute their oil for them. Invading Iraq would also have the positive (to the oil interests) impact of allowing American companies to get exclusive access to Iraqi oil.

It was never about the WMD's.

[happyhoix]

As the build up reached a fever pitch I realized that the president was either an idiot, or he was lying. He is not an idiot.

My own opinion is that Bush delegated all the heavy thinking to his closest advisors, who were primarily neocons from Daddy Bush's time in office and/or people with ties to Big Oil. Bush was only a C student in college, not that ambitious or hard working, perfectly content to let other people form his policies for him, uninterested in hearing opposing arguments or sorting through any tedious field reports to form his own opinions. 

He lied to us, yes, but I think he lied because he was too lazy to think for himself.  

[Deleted]

Jul 21, 2014 10:14:37 GMT -5 deminmaine said:

I remember all of that as if it were yesterday. I tried, really tried, to understand why we needed to invade Iraq.  Bear in mind that at the time we were in a period of post 911 national unity and also very comfortable with what the President did going into Afghanistan and after bin Ladin.  So, with all that, I tried very hard to understand the rationale behind Iraq.  After all, the President knew information that we don't, right?

But the closer we got in the build up to war in March 2003, the more it became sickeningly apparent that there really was no good rationale, and no justifiable reason for invading Iraq.  There were no WMD's, or even an effective program remaining, and the UN inspectors were on the ground in Iraq.  In fact, they were pleading for more time, and for us NOT to invade.  There was no connection to 911 or Al Qaida.  There was no reason at all to invade that country.  As the build up reached a fever pitch I realized that the president was either an idiot, or he was lying.  He is not an idiot.

I believe the jury is still out on that one... 

[Deleted]

Yeah... jury's still out...

[usaone]

Jul 15, 2014 12:11:12 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jul 15, 2014 8:31:59 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Will, the Dems never missed him.

They are still blaming him for everything, rather than look in the mirror standing with their President, and see where the problem is today.

i blame him for plenty.  but here is what i DON'T blame him for:

1) 911
2) two wars in the ME
3) the fact that revenues are still below historical norms, driving up the deficit
4) medicare part B
5) our loathsome global reputation since 2003
6) the PATRIOT Act
7) GITMO

i think he has done no better than Bush in terms of drones, spending, spying, and the VA.

Its funny that we (Republicans) are angry at Obama because he isn't cleaning up our mess 2001-2008 fast enough.