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Post by Angel! on Jul 2, 2014 15:27:22 GMT -5
So, for all of you who get this flexible time - are you paid a salary or just for the hours actually worked? Because if some of you are getting a salary - and get all this time off for errands and such - that's a sweet deal! I am salary, but it is far more likely that I work a 45 hour week than a 35 hour week just due to workload. Like this week I worked 4 hours on Sunday & 9 on Monday, so I am still up on hours even after taking 3 hours off for the game yesterday.
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Post by Angel! on Jul 2, 2014 15:34:03 GMT -5
Do you get crap from coworkers about your flexible schedule? I don't because we all have the same flexibility & honestly no one here takes advantage of it, IMO. If I was dropping the ball on meetings or deadlines, then the shit would hit the fan though. My boss wants it this way & talks a lot about trust. Basically we have his trust to do our work & run our lives as long as we don't screw it up. Like movingforward, we did have one new guy make a comment about a guy leaving at 4 as "cutting out early". The guy comes in at 7 every day, whereas the new guy rolls in at 10. Everyone immediately jumped down the new guy's throat for the comment since that is clearly a full day of work if you arrive at 7. We had a bunch of new people still adjusting to the flexibility at the time & my boss told them all that no one questions anyone's schedule at our company & that results & getting the job done are what matter.
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Post by muttleynfelix on Jul 2, 2014 16:24:28 GMT -5
So, for all of you who get this flexible time - are you paid a salary or just for the hours actually worked? Because if some of you are getting a salary - and get all this time off for errands and such - that's a sweet deal! I'm paid salary, but most of the time I'm making up the hours I take off. The flexibility is in that I don't have to punch a time card. If I only work 38 hrs a week, no big deal but the vast majority of the time, I'm working 45. Yeah, I have the flexibility so I can get home by 6pm, but then I'll work from home from 8-10 after my kids go to bed. Also, my boss has structured our pay so that our salaries aren't the high end of the scale, but if we are super busy, then we know the company is having a good year and we get good bonuses and great contribution to our retirement plan like 10-15% of our salary for each. That means our compensation tends to correlate with how much work we get done which correlates with how much work we are doing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 18:08:05 GMT -5
How much freedom do you have to come & go, run errands, work from home, etc? My work is really flexible. Basically as long as my work gets done & I don't miss meetings, no one cares what I do. I went with a bunch of coworkers Tuesday to watch the world cup game at a bar & found out some other guys we met there had to use vacation time to get off work. Then one guy's wife couldn't attend because she wasn't allowed to leave her work. It got me thinking that maybe I am pretty darn lucky & I was curious as to how it is for other YMers. My work hours are set. Once you're there, you're there. You can't come and go as you please. Any time you're not there when you're scheduled to be there, you have to use leave whether it's 10 minutes or a whole day. For anything other than scheduled vacation or a medical problem or appointment, leaving early or taking a day off work without a hassle depends on who you work for and how they feel that day. If you work for a jackass, if you get stuck in traffic or something and will be 10 minutes late for work, you might as well go back home and take 3 days off because they both have the same repurcussions. We have a lot of rules, some of them border on the absurd.
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Post by tcu2003 on Jul 2, 2014 20:04:47 GMT -5
Flexible schedule here - we always people take off for a few hours for sporting events (NCAA tournament games, Big XII basketball tourney, World Cup games, etc.). I am salaried, but still need get in at least 80 hours every two weeks (we are project based, so have to keep track of time in quarter hour increments).
We in general have core hours of 9-4, but they're pretty flexible as long as you get your work done/meet deadlines, and keep the clients happy.
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Post by plugginaway22 on Jul 2, 2014 20:50:45 GMT -5
No flexibility in medical offices with patient schedules! Not much anyway. Healthcare is on the clock, or if salaried, you need to be there.
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Post by Formerly SK on Jul 2, 2014 20:54:30 GMT -5
I'm deliberately pursuing employment in the public schools so I can have my kids' schedule. The pay is pretty crappy, but the flexibility is pretty priceless right now.
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Post by msventoux on Jul 2, 2014 21:02:04 GMT -5
Reasonably flexible. I'm hourly and as long as deadlines are met and the office is covered then during our non-busy times we can mostly set our hours. The downside is that for several months out of the year the workload is overwhelming and you're expected to work like a donkey 6-7 days a week, 10 hours a day or more.
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Post by drivingaround on Jul 2, 2014 21:28:17 GMT -5
Not as flexible as I'd like but not chained to desk either. We can be reasonably late due to traffic or an appointment and not use PTO but leaving during the day for longer than a normal lunch break is frowned upon and would require using PTO. It is strongly encouraged to make appointments at the start or end of day to be least disruptive. I work in a major city where traffic sucks all the time so it'd be a challenge to go to the dentist or run errands at lunch. Plus expensive since parking doesn't allow for in & out rights. We are all salaried but I promise you even if one week there is only 35 hours of work we don't get out early to make up for all the other weeks we work 55 hours. Salaried status is a sham!
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Post by sheilaincali on Jul 3, 2014 8:34:27 GMT -5
So, for all of you who get this flexible time - are you paid a salary or just for the hours actually worked? Because if some of you are getting a salary - and get all this time off for errands and such - that's a sweet deal! I'm salaried. Flip side is that my "guys" (the employees) start texting me at 5:30 am some mornings and are still calling and texting at 10pm some nights. When the alarm goes off at the office I'm on the call list so I do get to get up in the middle of the night to deal with the cops. When I got my wisdom teeth out I November I took Monday and Tuesday off sure. But I had to spend all day Sunday at work the day before my surgery doing payroll and most of my recovery day on Tuesday answering emails. So in the end I still basically worked 5 days that week.
In the end it all evens out and averages around 45 hours a week of work. Some weeks it may be closer to 35 and other weeks it is closer to 50-60 hours.
Yes it's nice not having to punch a clock and not having someone looking over my shoulder but there can be downsides too. Some times it would be nice to not have to mentally take work home with you or answer phone calls, emails and text messages on my "off" hours.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 17:52:54 GMT -5
I'm deliberately pursuing employment in the public schools so I can have my kids' schedule. The pay is pretty crappy, but the flexibility is pretty priceless right now. If by flexibility, you mean that you have the same schedule as your kids, super! If you mean flexible in terms of what most of this thread is about, you are dead wrong.
At least in our school system, if you are "classified" (hourly), you sign in and out and get docked for the time you don't work. There are exceptions. On inclement weather days, the district paid the classified employees as if they had worked. The aides, etc. complain a lot about the system because you have to watch your time to the minute. The district does not want to pay for one minute longer than you are scheduled.
If you are certified, you have responsibilities. You might get lucky and have my schedule (LOL) where you have the last period-and-a-half as your lunch/planning period. But I can only leave three times and must contact the principal. Other people have to beg for coverage since kids must be supervised at all times.
If something happens (say, Snowmageddon), your supervisory responsibilities are more important than your own personal responsibilities. Plenty of teachers stayed to take care of the kids while their partners tried to pick up their own kids.
So the flexibility might not be as "priceless" as you imagine. Most jobs have more flexibility than jobs in school. I was hourly at Macy's, but I could usually trade with someone if I needed time off or request it in advance.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 18:50:59 GMT -5
Sort of flexible. More so than the production floor anyhow. I start "around" 7:30 and work until 4:00. I can leave during the day for an appointment, but I have to make up the hours that day or take vacation or sick time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 19:28:08 GMT -5
Yes it's nice not having to punch a clock and not having someone looking over my shoulder but there can be downsides too. Some times it would be nice to not have to mentally take work home with you or answer phone calls, emails and text messages on my "off" hours.
That's one of the things I think about to make myself feel a little better when I read threads like this. They get 8 hours of my day, 5 days a week and that's it. I don't even think about work the rest of the day or week.
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Post by Ombud on Jul 4, 2014 21:28:14 GMT -5
My company is understanding when something pops up that you have to attend to (family situation, doctor's appointment, etc.) - but the expectation is that we are here from 8-5, even if you have nothing to do that's why I was soo glad when they kept me on M / W / F until September. I hate having nothing to do
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2014 18:08:39 GMT -5
My company is understanding when something pops up that you have to attend to (family situation, doctor's appointment, etc.) - but the expectation is that we are here from 8-5, even if you have nothing to do that's why I was soo glad when they kept me on M / W / F until September. I hate having nothing to do I hate having nothing to do, too, which is usually the three or four days before seniors graduate. They take their exams early. I suppose I could use my time productively to plan next year's lessons. Nah, that's next year! I just clean and purge.
Do they pay you as if you worked full-time, Ombud? Macy's and Parisian's used to try to send us home when there was nothing to do. Think sale that ends at 11 or 12 p.m. No one is shopping at the store. I always stayed because I needed the $$$. They would have been pissed if I had called out, so I wasn't willing to let them do the same.
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Post by Ombud on Jul 5, 2014 18:20:22 GMT -5
No they don't. Plus they don't pay for at least 4 hrs if you come in. But that's okay. I hate sitting around with nothing to do
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