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Post by henryclay on Feb 26, 2011 15:26:38 GMT -5
Is this the reason heart attacks are the nations number one killer? "........During the Vietnam War, autopsies performed on young American soldiers killed in combat left coroners scratching their heads. When examined, these soldiers looked like booze-guzzling, cigarette-smoking, overweight couch potatoes in their 70s...not like 20-year-old fighting machines. Thick, sticky cholesterol plaques filled their arteries. Some the men had total or partial blockages of one or more arteries. Some even had massive cholesterol lesions on their hearts. It's not a stretch to say...if these men hadn't died in combat...they would have died of a stroke or heart attack. So how'd they get so sick? Was it their diet? Did they smoke too much? Did they inhale Agent Orange? Well, the U.S. government commissioned a study to solve the mystery. They hired scientists to compare the fallen soldiers to men who died in car crashes. They found one major difference between the two groups of men: Their drinking water. You see, U.S. soldiers took large "water-purification tablets" before they could safely drink the water in Vietnam. These tablets were pure chlorine. I guess it did prevent soldiers from getting diarrhea in Vietnam (a major problem in the war)...but it also nearly killed them. And based on the research I've seen...if you drink straight from the tap...the same will happen to you, sooner or later. Keep reading to learn exactly why... It's killing us from the inside out The U.S. started to add chlorine to public drinking water in the early 1900s to combat cholera, typhoid, dysentery, and hepatitis. And very quickly, this technique wiped out disease from America's water supply. Today, about 98 percent of U.S. cities use chlorine to filter public drinking water. Yes, I said 98 percent. ........" Is the scientific community beginning to find other ways to make drinkung water safe in the US? It seems other countries are already doing it. www.healthiertalk.com/top-secret-cardiac-killer-vietnam-war-could-harm-your-health-too-3369
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 26, 2011 15:40:07 GMT -5
Water will kill you. Drink more beer.
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Post by vonnie6200 on Feb 26, 2011 15:42:15 GMT -5
Water will kill you. Drink more beer.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2011 17:05:19 GMT -5
Yikes!! I guzzle tap water all day long, and have been for many years. Oh, well, I'm broke so I don't want to live all that long.
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Post by Mad Dawg Wiccan on Feb 26, 2011 17:23:55 GMT -5
I can't stand the taste of chlorine, even the low levels found in tap water. For years, I've had a charcoal filter on my tap water to remove it.
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 26, 2011 17:42:18 GMT -5
My refrigerator filters my drinking water through charcoal; however, for years I drank straight tap water. At nearly 70, my arteries are virtually clear. Don't know the explanation, but I tend to wonder if dumping a tablet of pure chlorine into your gastrointestinal system isn't a great deal different than drinking water filtered through chlorine.
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Post by handyman2 on Feb 26, 2011 20:08:59 GMT -5
Well I drink tap water that comes 300 feet from below ground. Sweet, clear and cold. As for the study about all the plac and clogging issues in Vietnam i would look at what eating field rations do to the system rather than a water issue. Some of those field rations are fat loaded and would kill a hog if he ate enough. I remember solders from WW-2 and Korea had a high incidence of stomach ulsers from eating the stuff. It has improved over the years but not much. You eat a diet of field rations for a few weeks and you better consume Ex-lax with it or it will be stuck there for some time. Just my view.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 26, 2011 22:18:40 GMT -5
I doubt it.
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Post by b2r on Feb 28, 2011 11:56:47 GMT -5
Low-flow toilets cause a stink in SFSan Francisco's big push for low-flow toilets has turned into a multimillion-dollar plumbing stink. Read more: www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/02/27/BAVP1HUSUD.DTL#ixzz1FH1Bn9lxNow officials are stocking up on a $14 million, three-year supply of highly concentrated sodium hypochlorite - better known as bleach - to act as an odor eater and to disinfect the city's treated water before it's dumped into the bay. It will also be used to sanitize drinking water. That translates into 8.5 million pounds of bleach either being poured down city drains or into the drinking water supply every year.
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Post by fairlycrazy23 on Feb 28, 2011 12:37:13 GMT -5
I think the amount of chlorine in drinking water in the United States is perfectly safe, just don't eat toothpaste, or ingest large quantities of chlorine at once. But go ahead and get a filtration system if you think it is dangerous or objectionable.
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Post by floridayankee on Feb 28, 2011 13:35:39 GMT -5
As for the study about all the plac and clogging issues in Vietnam i would look at what eating field rations do to the system rather than a water issue. Some of those field rations are fat loaded and would kill a hog if he ate enough. Is it time for a funny MRE story? I remember reading this a few years back and had to search it out...... I had a date the other night at my place. On the phone the day before, the girl asked me to “Cook her something she’s never had before” for dinner.
After many minutes of scratching my head over what to make, I finally settled on something she has DEFINITELY never eaten. I got out my trusty case of MRE’s. Meal, Ready-to-Eat. Field rations that when eaten in their entirety contain 3000+ calories
Here’s what I made: I took three of the Ham Slices out of their plastic packets, took out three of the Pork Chops, three packets of Chicken-a-la-King, eight packets of dehydrated butter noodles, and some dehydrated/rehydrated rice.
I cooked the Ham Slices and Pork Chops in one pan, sautéed in shaved garlic and olive oil. In another pot, I blended the Chicken a-la-king, noodles, and rice together to make a sort of mush that looked suspiciously like succotash. I added some spices, and blended everything together in a glass pan that I then cooked in the oven for about 35 minutes at 450 degrees.
When I took it out, it looked like, well, ham slices, pork chops, and a bed of yellow poop. I covered the tops of the meat with the MRE cheese (kinda like Velveeta) and added some green sprinkly thingys from one of my spice cans. (Hey, if it’s got green sprinkly thingys on it, it looks fancy, right?)
For dessert, I took four MRE Pound Cakes, mashed ‘em up, added five packets of cocoa powder, powdered coffee cream, and some water. I heated it up and stirred it until it looked like a sort of chunky gelatinous organism, and I sprinkled powdered sugar on top of it. Voila--Ranger Pudding.
For alcoholic drinks, I took the rest of my bottle of Military Special Vodka (yes, they DO make a type of liquor named “Military Special”--it sells for $4.35 per fifth) and mixed in four packets of “Electrolytes - 1 each - Cherry flavored” (I swear, the packet says that). It looked like an eerie kool-aid with sparkles in it (that was the electrolytes I guess...could’ve been leftover sand from Egypt).
I lit two candles, put a vase of wildflowers in the middle, and set the table with my best set of Ralph Lauren Academy-series China (that shit is flippin EXPENSIVE... my set of 8 place settings cost me over $600), and put the alcoholic drink in a crystal wine decanter.
She came over, and I had some appetizers already made, of MRE spaghetti-with-meatballs, set in small cups. She saw the dinner, saw the food, and said “This looks INCREDIBLE!!!”
We dug in, and she was loving the food. Throughout the meal, she kept asking me how long it took me to make it, and kept remarking that I obviously knew a thing or two about cooking fine meals. She kind of balked at the makeshift “wine” I had set out, but after she tried it I guess she liked it because she drank four glasses during dinner.
At the end of the main course, when I served the dessert, she squealed with delight at the “Chocolate mousse” I had made. Huh? Chocolate what?Okay...yeah...it’s Chocolate Moose. Took me HOURS to make... yup.
Later on, as we were watching a movie, she excused herself to use my restroom. While she was in there, I heard her say softly to herself “uh oh” and a resounding but petite fart punctuated her utterance of dismay.
Let the games begin. She sprayed about half a can of air freshener (Air Freshener, 1 each, Orange scent. Yup. The Marines even make smell good) and returned to the couch, this time with an obvious pained look. After 10 more minutes she excused herself again, and retreated to the bathroom for the second time. I could hear her say “What the hell is WRONG with me” as she again send flatulent shockwaves into the porcelain bowl. This time, they sounded kinda wet, and I heard the toilet paper roll being employed, and again, LOTS more air freshener.
Back to the couch. She smiles meekly as she decides to sit on the chair instead of next to me. She sits on my chair, knees pulled up to her chest, kind of rocking back and forth slightly. Suddenly, without a word, she ROCKETED up and FLEW to the bathroom, slammed the door, and didn’t come out for 30 minutes.
I turned the movie up because I didn’t want her to hear me laughing so hard that tears were streaming down my cheeks. She came out with a slightly gray pallor to her face, and said “I am SOOOOOO sorry. I have NO idea what is wrong with me. I am so embarrassed, I can’t believe I keep running to your bathroom!!” I gave her an Imodium AD, and she finally settled down and relaxed. Later on, she asked me again what I had made for dinner, because she had enjoyed it so much. I calmly took her into the kitchen and showed her all the used MRE bags and packets in the trash can.
After explaining to her that she had eaten roughly 9,000 calories of “expeditionary rations” she turned stark white, looked at me incredulously, and said “I ate 9,000 calories or dehydrated food that was made 3 years ago?” After I concurred, she grabbed her coat and keys, and took off without a word.
She called me yesterday. Seems she couldn’t shit for 3 days, and when she finally did, the smell was so bad, her roommate could smell it from down the hall. She also told me she had been working out nonstop to combat the high caloric intake, and that she never wanted me to cook dinner for her again, unless she was PERSONALLY there to inspect the food beforehand. It was a fun date. She laughed about it eventually, and said that that was the first time she’d ever crapped in a guy’s house on a date. She’d been so upset by it she was in tears in the bathroom while I had been in tears on the couch. I know, I’m an asshole, but it was still a funny night.
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Post by Angel! on Feb 28, 2011 13:47:35 GMT -5
A great article <sarcasm> by someone who doesn't understand water treatment. Of the 98% he talks about in the article - many use chloramine to kill bacteria, which is similar to chlorine, but doesn't create the THMs that he also mentions in the article.
Also, those cities in the US he mentions that are starting to use ozone & UV to kill bacteria - they still add some sort of chlorine to the water. The ozone & UV methods are good at killing bacteria, but provide no residual protection. So there is always the possibility that the water will get harmful bacteria between the treatment at the facility & you drinking it from your tap. Chlorine provides protection from this possiblity.
I also think the link between chlorine & heart disease is exagerated in the article because as others have pointed out - there is a difference between using water purification tablets & drinking the tiny amount of chlorine (or chloramines) that are added to the water supply.
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Post by Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ on Feb 28, 2011 14:22:32 GMT -5
Water will kill you. Drink more beer. I'll drink to that!
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Post by Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ on Feb 28, 2011 14:28:09 GMT -5
It was a fun date. She laughed about it eventually, and said that that was the first time she’d ever crapped in a guy’s house on a date. She’d been so upset by it she was in tears in the bathroom while I had been in tears on the couch. I know, I’m an asshole, but it was still a funny night.
May I assume no wild and crazy jungle sex took place? Really, isn't that the point of cooking dinner for a chick and eating under the light of candles and flowers?
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Post by floridayankee on Feb 28, 2011 14:54:51 GMT -5
May I assume no wild and crazy jungle sex took place? Really, isn't that the point of cooking dinner for a chick and eating under the light of candles and flowers? You'd think....but you have to remember, the guy "telling" the story was a marine (implied) and we all know they're not wrapped too tight to begin with.
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