Noah's Flood- Where Did The Water Come From?

[Tennesseer]

Jun 16, 2014 10:08:16 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Jun 16, 2014 8:49:19 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Do you have proof beavers were once indigenous to Saudi Arabia and hunted to death Paul Virgil?

It would be Mesopotamia, and as it turns out, I do.

I probably discovered the fact watching a documentary. I enjoy watching nature documentaries and I watch a lot of them.

I may have missed it in your link, but I did not see beavers as once indigenous to Saudi Arabia.  What page in your link was it on?

[Virgil Showlion]

Jun 16, 2014 10:21:05 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Jun 16, 2014 10:08:16 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

It would be Mesopotamia, and as it turns out, I do.

I probably discovered the fact watching a documentary. I enjoy watching nature documentaries and I watch a lot of them.

I may have missed it in your link, but I did not see beavers as once indigenous to Saudi Arabia.  What page in your link was it on?

Why Saudi Arabia? Historians aren't quite sure where Noah lived, but most speculate that it was in the area we now call Iraq. The article talks about Syria and Mesopotamia in general, which includes Iraq.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Jun 15, 2014 4:06:40 GMT -5 truthbound said:

Jun 14, 2014 7:48:38 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

I guess you missed the part about "three times the volume of all the Earth's oceans combined".  This helps support the Biblical account of a world-wide flood, and perfectly explains seabed fossils in mountain ranges.

I didn't miss anything including the fact that the inner ocean theory is a theory. No one has actually found anything nor will they since they can't drill that deep. In any case it doesn't support anything as there is no way Noah in his little boat (that could not have held all the animals on Earth) could have known how far the flood extended.

Actually, they have found evidence. Huge Underground "Ocean" Discovered Towards Earth's Core It has been a theory for a long time that water existed down there, but this is the first time there has verifiable evidence produced to support the theory. There is also the diamond find that Virg posted that backs up the theory.

The confusion is this topic is coming up, I think, because it's not a standing pool of water. It's actually water locked up in a mineral called ringwoodite. This mineral is essentially a sponge and the find makes a lot of sense, as I already posted. As the plates of the earth shift they press down on this layer and out comes the water, just like a sponge. So the relation to the bible is how the earth cracked open and water flooded the land. This is, in fact, exactly what these guys that discovered this layer are saying. The water on earth came from within, not from meteorites as another theory has suggested.

The other reason that this layer makes sense, there has to be some kind of "cooling layer" between the crust and the mantle, if there wasn't the crust of the earth would melt.

[Tennesseer]

Jun 16, 2014 11:11:53 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Jun 16, 2014 10:21:05 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

I may have missed it in your link, but I did not see beavers as once indigenous to Saudi Arabia.  What page in your link was it on?

Why Saudi Arabia? Historians aren't quite sure where Noah lived, but most speculate that it was in the area we now call Iraq. The article talks about Syria and Mesopotamia in general, which includes Iraq.

Truthbound mentioned the Middle East.

You responded with

Beavers are found all throughout Europe and Asia.

The few places they aren't found is where they've been hunted to death.

The land area of Mesopotamia along with Saudi Arabia are part of the Asian continent.  So I asked if beavers were ever indigenous to Saudi Arabia because you said where beavers are not found in Asia is because they had been hunted to death.

Hence the question about Saudi Arabia.  Maybe I should not take you so literally. 

[uncle23]

[uncle23]

post #34  is the crater lake of mt pinatubo after the eruption.....used to be a mountain top....

[Virgil Showlion]

Jun 16, 2014 11:48:37 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Jun 16, 2014 11:11:53 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Why Saudi Arabia? Historians aren't quite sure where Noah lived, but most speculate that it was in the area we now call Iraq. The article talks about Syria and Mesopotamia in general, which includes Iraq.

Truthbound mentioned the Middle East.

You responded with

Beavers are found all throughout Europe and Asia.

The few places they aren't found is where they've been hunted to death.

The land area of Mesopotamia along with Saudi Arabia are part of the Asian continent.  So I asked if beavers were ever indigenous to Saudi Arabia because you said where beavers are not found in Asia is because they had been hunted to death.

Hence the question about Saudi Arabia.  Maybe I should not take you so literally. 

You just misjudged the scope of my comment. It could happen to anyone. I forgive you.

[Tennesseer]

Jun 16, 2014 12:03:00 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Jun 16, 2014 11:48:37 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Truthbound mentioned the Middle East.

You responded with

The land area of Mesopotamia along with Saudi Arabia are part of the Asian continent.  So I asked if beavers were ever indigenous to Saudi Arabia because you said where beavers are not found in Asia is because they had been hunted to death.

Hence the question about Saudi Arabia.  Maybe I should not take you so literally. 

You just misjudged the scope of my comment. It could happen to anyone. I forgive you.

Your scopes are beginning to be as big as you know who's. 

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jun 15, 2014 15:52:59 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

"Historians, archaeologists, and others in the scientific realms recognize the Bible for what it is: the most accurate historical book ever composed-..."

 Virgil Showlion said: 

"That's why science is exciting. If we had all the answers as to how, we'd have no reason to keep looking. One of man's noblest pursuits--the quest for knowledge--would be lost to us.

"I personally believe that's one of the reasons the Bible gives us only the barest details of certain events--including the Deluge."

So which is it?  The bible is the most accurate historical book ever composed or the bible give us only the barest details of certain events so that scientists can while away future hours trying to determine if the biblical Deluge is fact or lore?

I think the Bible is full of intricate details.  Though, John states of the miracles and deeds of Jesus enough books could be written that they could fill the earth, but he chose to write only what he witnessed.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jun 16, 2014 11:37:48 GMT -5 Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger said:

Jun 15, 2014 4:06:40 GMT -5 truthbound said:

I didn't miss anything including the fact that the inner ocean theory is a theory. No one has actually found anything nor will they since they can't drill that deep. In any case it doesn't support anything as there is no way Noah in his little boat (that could not have held all the animals on Earth) could have known how far the flood extended.

Actually, they have found evidence. Huge Underground "Ocean" Discovered Towards Earth's Core It has been a theory for a long time that water existed down there, but this is the first time there has verifiable evidence produced to support the theory. There is also the diamond find that Virg posted that backs up the theory.

The confusion is this topic is coming up, I think, because it's not a standing pool of water. It's actually water locked up in a mineral called ringwoodite. This mineral is essentially a sponge and the find makes a lot of sense, as I already posted. As the plates of the earth shift they press down on this layer and out comes the water, just like a sponge. So the relation to the bible is how the earth cracked open and water flooded the land. This is, in fact, exactly what these guys that discovered this layer are saying. The water on earth came from within, not from meteorites as another theory has suggested.

The other reason that this layer makes sense, there has to be some kind of "cooling layer" between the crust and the mantle, if there wasn't the crust of the earth would melt.

[Tennesseer]

Jun 16, 2014 14:54:33 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Jun 15, 2014 15:52:59 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

"Historians, archaeologists, and others in the scientific realms recognize the Bible for what it is: the most accurate historical book ever composed-..."

 Virgil Showlion said: 

"That's why science is exciting. If we had all the answers as to how, we'd have no reason to keep looking. One of man's noblest pursuits--the quest for knowledge--would be lost to us.

"I personally believe that's one of the reasons the Bible gives us only the barest details of certain events--including the Deluge."

So which is it?  The bible is the most accurate historical book ever composed or the bible give us only the barest details of certain events so that scientists can while away future hours trying to determine if the biblical Deluge is fact or lore?

I think the Bible is full of intricate details.  Though, John states of the miracles and deeds of Jesus enough books could be written that they could fill the earth, but he chose to write only what he witnessed.

But John didn't write the book of Genesis and the Great Deluge. 

So going back to your claim of "Historians, archaeologists, and others in the scientific realms recognize the Bible for what it is: the most accurate historical book ever composed-...", why aren't there specific detail about the Deluge, especially 'where' and 'when' how did two members from each animal species from all over the world (from separate continents) find their way to Noah's ark? 

It is not very accurate in my opinion, at least the Old Testament isn't.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Well, Paul. Looks like uncle here has posted more concrete evidence of the deluge...

Jun 16, 2014 12:01:56 GMT -5 uncle23 said:

post #34  is the crater lake of mt pinatubo after the eruption.....used to be a mountain top....

Nice one uncle. More evidence of Genesis 7:11.

11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up , and the windows of heaven were opened .

I just love the vast amounts of scientific theories from the bible that are turning out to be fairly accurate. Especially when you factor in all the archeological evidence that keeps being found to back up the history.

Israeli says he has found King David's citadel despite skepticism

[truthbound]

Jun 16, 2014 8:49:19 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Jun 16, 2014 6:55:36 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Beavers are found all throughout Europe and Asia.

The few places they aren't found is where they've been hunted to death.

Do you have proof beavers were once indigenous to Saudi Arabia and hunted to death Paul Virgil?

No. Just like they don't have proof humans can live for 700 years lol.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Jun 17, 2014 5:10:29 GMT -5 truthbound said:

Jun 16, 2014 8:49:19 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Do you have proof beavers were once indigenous to Saudi Arabia and hunted to death Paul Virgil?

No. Just like they don't have proof humans can live for 700 years lol.

This guy has a pretty good explanation though.

Do You Really Think People Lived Hundreds of Years in Biblical Times?

[Tennesseer]

As the Creation Revolutution website and link (above) are local to me, ahamburger, can you tell me who authored the article?  I could not determine it.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

That's a good question, Tenn. I just assumed it was the editor in chief, R.L. David Jolly, as he has a M.Sc.. I could be wrong though.

creationrevolution.com/about/