Does pot work...

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May 31, 2014 10:10:53 GMT -5 tloonya said:

May 31, 2014 0:26:03 GMT -5 @lillylake said:

Don't you have Obamacare now tloonya?

You can have all the medical happy pills you need. 

After you do that, you are going to start to wonder why you don't have a pharmacy in your shop!

Happy pills give me hallucinations...

Narcotics make you hallucinate and I am not sure that they would make you happy, aren't a lot of them depressants?

There are many other options for happy pills. Messing with brain chemistry has a lot of pharma options 

[tloonya]

May 31, 2014 10:50:20 GMT -5 @lillylake said:

May 31, 2014 10:10:53 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Happy pills give me hallucinations...

Narcotics make you hallucinate and I am not sure that they would make you happy, aren't a lot of them depressants?

There are many other options for happy pills. Messing with brain chemistry has a lot of pharma options 

Tis is why I want to have natural stuff.
About happy pills - they are anti-depressants however they can make you to want to kill yourself. that concept was always foreign to me.
Pot doesn't do this, right?

[Sum Dum Gai]

Pot causes reefer madness, the government made an educational movie about it and everything.

[tloonya]

May 31, 2014 11:51:52 GMT -5 Sum Dum Gai said:

Pot causes reefer madness, the government made an educational movie about it and everything.

What did you say that for? I just lost 30 sec I will never see again
I am not your TOY!!!

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Because someone is so depressed they are taking medication, it must be the medication's fault they commit suicide? 

I see that the same as a person in ill health suing a hospital for not saving them from their terminal disease.

[tloonya]

May 31, 2014 12:29:19 GMT -5 @lillylake said:

Because someone is so depressed they are taking medication, it must be the medication's fault they commit suicide? 

I see that the same as a person in ill health suing a hospital for not saving them from their terminal disease.

it IS medication's fault, actually the doctor's fault and FDA's fault that they let medication that supposed to make people more balanced failing to do so...and people committing themselves.
For terminally ill people when they are visiting a doctor they are informed that they are terminally ill and can't be saved. Not 'let's try to give you something that might going to cure you or make you kill yourself'. No. Patients are told - they are done!
Unlike Symbalta when after 1st pill I saw train coming into my face. Good I was not driving but I screamed loud enough so DH almost hit someone...

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May 31, 2014 12:53:27 GMT -5 tloonya said:

May 31, 2014 12:29:19 GMT -5 @lillylake said:

Because someone is so depressed they are taking medication, it must be the medication's fault they commit suicide? 

I see that the same as a person in ill health suing a hospital for not saving them from their terminal disease.

it IS medication's fault, actually the doctor's fault and FDA's fault that they let medication that supposed to make people more balanced failing to do so...and people committing themselves.
For terminally ill people when they are visiting a doctor they are informed that they are terminally ill and can't be saved. Not 'let's try to give you something that might going to cure you or make you kill yourself'. No. Patients are told - they are done!
Unlike Symbalta when after 1st pill I saw train coming into my face. Good I was not driving but I screamed loud enough so DH almost hit someone...

Or it could just be that the person was depressed and the medication wasn't helping.  Not that it caused the depression to be worse.

It is so hard to figure out what the root problem is with mental health problems and medications work differently for everyone.  Sometimes, trial and error is the only option for figuring out what is going to be effective.

[Nazgul Girl]

   An old joke re: the effects of pot:

 Two long-time users are toking up.   One says to the other, " I heard that pot makes you apathetic. "

  The other says, " Apathy ?   Who cares ? "   


That's all I have to say on the matter  .

 

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May 31, 2014 11:29:09 GMT -5 tloonya said:

May 31, 2014 10:50:20 GMT -5 @lillylake said:

Narcotics make you hallucinate and I am not sure that they would make you happy, aren't a lot of them depressants?

There are many other options for happy pills. Messing with brain chemistry has a lot of pharma options 

Tis is why I want to have natural stuff.
About happy pills - they are anti-depressants however they can make you to want to kill yourself. that concept was always foreign to me.
Pot doesn't do this, right?

You don't really know what it's going to do to you until you try it I guess.   I've never heard of people becoming suicidal on it, but some get really paranoid.  My husband didn't get all super mellow on it.  He would get all these "great ideas" (not) and be running around doing things like hanging sheetrock in the garage (12 foot sheets with no lift...and no tools), washing the Legos in the dishwasher, collecting worms for his worm farm business.  It was great fun.  Then he would crash and not wake up even for work the next day, or care. 

[Nazgul Girl]

   Too much weed can cause "marijuana poisoning, " ( not really true poisoning, but overdosing ) with side effects of paranoia, vomiting, and vascular changes.   There are some pretty severe withdrawal symptoms that have been documented for those who truly are dependent on the stuff, vs. just smoking the occasional joint.   I work with a coder who has "anxiety" and used to come to work high on her medically prescribed weed.   Oh boy.   She's knocked it off over the last year, though, thank goodness.   Her breath is atrocious. but I'm not sure whether it's from the weed or she just has bad breath.  

[ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ]

Or it could just be that the person was depressed and the medication wasn't helping. Not that it caused the depression to be worse.

It could cause a person's depression to become worse - if they're over-medicating (taking the prescription more frequently and in larger doses than prescribed).

Marijuana can also cause depression if the person imbibing over-medicates or abuses the substance - a regular smoker can become severely dependent on it - and when not smoking to "mellow-out", become depressed or suicidal - justlike many other narcotics.

[toomuchreality]

I had never smoked pot, well, twice but I had not get high because I think I am a such control freak that I can't relax even smoking pot.

Generally it makes me feel like a puddle. I like to feel like I am in control of myself, so I get stressed and anxious while I wait for it to wear off. ←NOT good!

(On the other hand, I had the most fantastic sex while I was on it!  ←VERY good!)

I do not like the way I see others behave usually, when they are high (smoked pot). They always seem to think they are acting normal and that no one knows/can tell. OMG! If that is what they act like normally...   YIKES!  I try to stay away from most people that have smoked it, for these very reasons.
I'm sure there must be some people that can hold it together, or act normal. If I've seen them, I didn't know, and isn't that a good thing?

Overall, it's not an enjoyable feeling, if you ask me. My neighbor loves it! (She's one that thinks she's got it together, when she smokes. She's also someone I avoid, when she smokes.)

I don't see the attraction.

[Nazgul Girl]

Jun 1, 2014 6:43:27 GMT -5 Ratchets said:

Well now everybody's taking the luster out of the retirement doobie I had planned .

  Well, if you're planning to apply or jobs after you retire which require drug testing, the one time you'd have a magnificent doobie, traces might be found in your sample.   I don't know how long traces might linger.  

  How about a great party at your neighborhood watering hole ? 

[NancysSummerSip]

Jun 1, 2014 6:43:27 GMT -5 Ratchets said:

Well now everybody's taking the luster out of the retirement doobie I had planned .

In your case, I'm thinking Cheech and Chong-sized doobie, with a British flag stuck in the middle of it. And when you do it, you'd better get pictures of that moment, buster.

[achelois]

I would rather have chocolate. 

[ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ]

You beat me to it, Nancy - I was about to say if Ratchets is going to have a retirement smoke, might as well make it a Cheech & Chong -sized smoke.

[raeoflyte]

I know 2 people who never touched the stuff for fun, but their neurologists prescribed it for migraines/chronic pain when they had tried everything else. For one its the only thing that gives her enough relief to leave the house at all.

I also know many people who started as recreational use and now self medicate with it. Milee had a great post about the potential affects of weed-I think in Shasta's post about her son- and in those cases it becomes a chicken and egg scenario. Did they have issues and started relying more on weed to deal with them, or did smoking too much cause said issues...

I also know daily recreational users who have successful careers and a bunch of people in between.

It wouldn't be my first drug of choice unless my doctor thought it was the best option. If you're not in a state that its legal in you really don't know what you're getting. And even where it is legal it seems like the potency has increased exponentially. I don't pay much attention to the news but I've heard from other people that we are starting to get some crazy reactions from people using edibles which scares me since I have kids.

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[Nazgul Girl]

   It does do people with migraines and also muscle spasms from diseases such as M.S. a lot of good.   It relaxes the spasms as no other prescribed medicine does, according to various medical notes that I've read while coding. But there are significant side effects for long-time users.    And I think smoking it around kids is a huge mistake, because if the kids see the parent toking up constantly, then that is a vivid image which will be with them for the rest of their lives.   JMO, of course, since it's such popular stuff.

[ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ]

And I think smoking it around kids is a huge mistake, because if the kids see the parent toking up constantly, then that is a vivid image which will be with them for the rest of their lives. JMO, of course, since it's such popular stuff

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And seeing a parent or parents toking could also lead to the kid thinking it's "cool" and grown-up and they pick up the habit.

That's usually how young adults (or even teenagers) get hooked on "regular" cigarettes.

[Malarky]

I find it to be incredibly demotivational.  Both from my own (limited)  experience, and my observation of other people who habitually smoke.

I've had people tell me that it's better because it doesn't give you a hangover.  At least when you drink alcohol, you see/feel the consequences of your actions.  And both kill brain cells.   

 

[Cookies Galore]

Jun 1, 2014 6:43:27 GMT -5 Ratchets said:

Well now everybody's taking the luster out of the retirement doobie I had planned .

Don't listen to a bunch of fuddy duddies. It's really not that big of a deal.

[ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ]

It's not that big a deal IF it doesn't become a way of life - or regular habit. I did it in my youth - it was ok - but I also enjoyed a nice glass of wine a lot more - and wine is less damaging to my overall health.

Inhaling smoke is inhaling smoke - whether it's legal tobacco, or illegal.

And with the way growers & manufacturers/dealers are lacing it with chemicals these days, it's not as "passive" and harmless a high as it was back the Woodstock era of the 60's or even a couple of decades ago.

Back then it used to be grown naturally or with hydroponics - now people are manufacturing it in their homes (usually rented homes), and using all kinds of methods to grow the plants quickly - pumping gases etc into the "growing area" (usually a basement - or completely empty house that has the windows boarded up.

The plants aren't natural anymore like they were back in the day - too many chemicals & poisons being used to get a "stronger" crop.

[raeoflyte]

Jun 1, 2014 16:38:29 GMT -5 Nazgul Girl said:

   It does do people with migraines and also muscle spasms from diseases such as M.S. a lot of good.   It relaxes the spasms as no other prescribed medicine does, according to various medical notes that I've read while coding. But there are significant side effects for long-time users.    And I think smoking it around kids is a huge mistake, because if the kids see the parent toking up constantly, then that is a vivid image which will be with them for the rest of their lives.   JMO, of course, since it's such popular stuff.

First off-I.haven't smoked since I started trying to get pregnant. however I just can't get behind that statement. The people I know whose parents smoked in front of the kids won't touch it with a 10 foot pole. (For the ones where weed was the only issue. Kids with childhoods of neglect, abuse, or hard core drugs are a different story but too complex to say how pot affected them).

Once the legality part is taken care of it isn't that different than parents coming home and having a beer. That didn't make me want to drink either.

But all that said and I don't want my kids around it. I'll be honest with them about my past, but I really haven't figured out how to deal with it in the open. And I'm in colorado so boy is it ever out in the open now.

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[Nazgul Girl]

 It's okay, reoflyte, I'm more conservative than a lot of people on the subject of pot.   I do think that kids whose parents do questionable activities around them are confused, plus they second hand highs from the smoke.   I even knew of some people that let their six-year-old smoke it, when I was in college.  My bf at the time was so high most of the time that he lost a full-ride scholarship because he wasn't able to maintain a "B" average.  I don't have a great impression of what pot does for people.   Again, my opinion, but it's based on my own observations.    

[Jaguar]

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[truthbound]

May 31, 2014 12:08:16 GMT -5 tloonya said:

May 31, 2014 11:51:52 GMT -5 Sum Dum Gai said:

Pot causes reefer madness, the government made an educational movie about it and everything.

What did you say that for? I just lost 30 sec I will never see again
I am not your TOY!!!

I agree. What were we talking about?