what was the White House thinking?

[djAdvocate]

May 27, 2014 10:07:29 GMT -5 taz157 said:

Because the guy is fucking idiot.

which guy?

[djAdvocate]

May 27, 2014 10:57:20 GMT -5 Ombud said:

The buck stops on his desk. the White House appointees are appointed by Obama and have his full faith and support. He is well aware of their abilities to keep certain things out of their emails

yeah, but is he REALLY to blame when they f(*k up? 

i will go along with blaming him if it can be shown that he reviews the emails.

otherwise, i would feel comfortable saying that Obama's STAFF f*&ked up, but not Obama himself.

[djAdvocate]

May 27, 2014 11:52:57 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

May 27, 2014 11:32:23 GMT -5 Ombud said:

we don't know right now exactly who was responsible for the leak. We still don't know exactly what happened with Ben Ghazi and for some [political?] reason may never know. It took a long time for Plamegate to come out, and yes the Bush administration was responsible for that IMHO.

What don't you know about what happened at Benghazi?

i think i am going to rename myself Ben Gausy.

[djAdvocate]

May 27, 2014 12:18:30 GMT -5 Ombud said:

Outside of requesting support and not getting it? Who is responsible for denying that request?

it was either the embassy itself or the military in the area, if memory serves.

Why was Susan Rice hung out to dry for repeating Obama's version of the story?

she wasn't.  Obama backed her up.  she quit when she started getting flack during confirmation.

Was he involved with that decision?

what decision?

Who decided to plan (blame?) the whole thing on a video instead of actually take responsibility for what was actually unfolding?

i believe it was the CIA.

I must have missed all that. Can you fill in the blanks? Thanks

we do our best.

[djAdvocate]

May 27, 2014 12:37:45 GMT -5 tallguy said:

There are always enough legitimate reasons to question a president or his actions.  Making crap up only damages one's own credibility.

seriously!  i really thought they were going to crucify him for spying on AP.  that seemed like a serious breach of powers to me.  but the GOP quietly let that one die.

but BENGHAZI!!!! OMFG!!!!! 

[djAdvocate]

May 28, 2014 7:36:49 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

If you obfuscate long enough, you can say it's old news and completely investigated.  Trying to get to the correct details is politically motivated.  Didn't you know ?  

i think there have been 17 inquiries on this subject.  if there were any fire there, he would already be impeached.

give it a rest.

or don't, at your own embarrassment.

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May 28, 2014 12:02:26 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

May 28, 2014 7:36:49 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

If you obfuscate long enough, you can say it's old news and completely investigated.  Trying to get to the correct details is politically motivated.  Didn't you know ?  

i think there have been 17 inquiries on this subject.  if there were any fire there, he would already be impeached.

give it a rest.

or don't, at your own embarrassment.

You got to have an ego to get embarrassed. Why the amphibious landing ship with 1000 marines at the ready, off the coast of Libya.

[djAdvocate]

May 28, 2014 12:53:13 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

May 28, 2014 12:02:26 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

i think there have been 17 inquiries on this subject.  if there were any fire there, he would already be impeached.

give it a rest.

or don't, at your own embarrassment.

You got to have an ego to get embarrassed. Why the amphibious landing ship with 1000 marines at the ready, off the coast of Libya.

tactical support for the black sites? 

[Virgil Showlion]

I guess we can forget the Obama administration "going to do" something stupid. According to PBS, it "has been doing" something stupid for quite some time now. To wit:

In a documentary to be aired Tuesday night, the rebels describe their clandestine journey from the Syrian battlefield to meet with their American handlers in Turkey and then travel on to Qatar, where they say they received training in the use of sophisticated weapons and fighting techniques, including, one rebel said, “how to finish off soldiers still alive after an ambush.”

The interviews are the latest evidence that after more than three years of warfare, the United States has stepped up the provision of lethal aid to the rebels. In recent months, at least five rebel units have posted videos showing their members firing U.S.-made TOW anti-tank missiles at Syrian positions. The weapons are believed to have come from Saudi Arabia, but experts on international arms transfers have told McClatchy that they could not have been given to the rebels without the approval of the Obama administration.

...

The commander of the unit also told Ali that their American contacts had asked him to bring 80 to 90 members of his unit to Ankara for training. Once in Ankara, after a 14-hour drive from Syria, they were interrogated for days about their political leanings and their unit’s fighting history. The commander told Ali that their questioners identified themselves as belonging to “the military,” but that he believed they were from the CIA.

And it's not just the Obama administration. It's the people behind the scenes who run the Obama administration. The same people who ran the Clinton and Bush administrations.

Libertarianism in the US is dead as a doornail and even the Tea Party has been banished into obscurity, hence enjoy your "race" between Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton come 2016. Your federal government can't possibly get any more broken, monolithic, or out of control than it is now.

[billisonboard]

May 28, 2014 16:13:06 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

... Your federal government can't possibly get any more broken, monolithic, or out of control than it is now.

Hey, this is 'merica. Anything's possible here.

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Sooo... Obama isn't a good President...

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May 28, 2014 16:13:06 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

I guess we can forget the Obama administration "going to do" something stupid. According to PBS, it "has been doing" something stupid for quite some time now. To wit:

In a documentary to be aired Tuesday night, the rebels describe their clandestine journey from the Syrian battlefield to meet with their American handlers in Turkey and then travel on to Qatar, where they say they received training in the use of sophisticated weapons and fighting techniques, including, one rebel said, “how to finish off soldiers still alive after an ambush.”

The interviews are the latest evidence that after more than three years of warfare, the United States has stepped up the provision of lethal aid to the rebels. In recent months, at least five rebel units have posted videos showing their members firing U.S.-made TOW anti-tank missiles at Syrian positions. The weapons are believed to have come from Saudi Arabia, but experts on international arms transfers have told McClatchy that they could not have been given to the rebels without the approval of the Obama administration.

...

The commander of the unit also told Ali that their American contacts had asked him to bring 80 to 90 members of his unit to Ankara for training. Once in Ankara, after a 14-hour drive from Syria, they were interrogated for days about their political leanings and their unit’s fighting history. The commander told Ali that their questioners identified themselves as belonging to “the military,” but that he believed they were from the CIA.

And it's not just the Obama administration. It's the people behind the scenes who run the Obama administration. The same people who ran the Clinton and Bush administrations.

Libertarianism in the US is dead as a doornail and even the Tea Party has been banished into obscurity, hence enjoy your "race" between Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton come 2016. Your federal government can't possibly get any more broken, monolithic, or out of control than it is now.

Sure it can... just give the voters that refuse to vote for the right reason a few more decades...

*for the record, the WRONG reason to vote for someone is any (or all) of the following: Party affiliation... race... gender... religion... "least bad of two bad options" when there are MORE THAN TWO people running.

[billisonboard]

May 28, 2014 18:23:10 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

Sooo... Obama isn't a good President...
...

I know I haven't been impressed.

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May 28, 2014 18:29:09 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

May 28, 2014 18:23:10 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

Sooo... Obama isn't a good President...
...

I know I haven't been impressed.

I haven't been either... that's why I gave the "shocked face"...

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May 28, 2014 18:31:18 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

May 28, 2014 18:29:09 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

I know I haven't been impressed.

I haven't been either... that's why I gave the "shocked face"...

Its hard to believe that you don't appreciate how well President Obama is doing.

, hey richard!

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LOL... Ohhhh I "appreciate" how "well" he's doing... I "appreciate" it like crazy!

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May 28, 2014 15:06:09 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

May 28, 2014 12:53:13 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

You got to have an ego to get embarrassed. Why the amphibious landing ship with 1000 marines at the ready, off the coast of Libya.

tactical support for the black sites? 

That would seem the most logical. The network news report I saw (with picture) leaned towards the idea it was fast response backup for the embassy in Libya due to the deteriorating situation.