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Post by Ombud on May 27, 2014 9:50:44 GMT -5
Press release on ABC news: "Obama released the name of the top CIA official in Afghanistan to over 1000 journalists in an email."
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zibazinski
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Post by zibazinski on May 27, 2014 9:51:32 GMT -5
Big surprise.
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Post by cronewitch on May 27, 2014 9:52:52 GMT -5
If he dies they don't need to fire him?
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Ombud
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Post by Ombud on May 27, 2014 9:54:42 GMT -5
the CIA guy will be fired if he and his family get killed?
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Post by billisonboard on May 27, 2014 9:58:58 GMT -5
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Post by chiver78 on May 27, 2014 10:02:02 GMT -5
must be a slow news day...
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Post by Tennesseer on May 27, 2014 10:07:17 GMT -5
One word: 'Plamegate'.
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Post by taz157 on May 27, 2014 10:07:29 GMT -5
Because the guy is fucking idiot.
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Post by tallguy on May 27, 2014 10:18:38 GMT -5
Just curious....
If the list was provided by military officials to the White House press office, and distributed by press officials, is there any logical reason for your wording here?
Thought not.
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chiver78
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Post by chiver78 on May 27, 2014 10:23:13 GMT -5
A Bush Administration official leaked the name of CIA operative Valerie Plame. Remember 'Plamegate'? ha, I was just looking up that guy's name to make the same sort of comment. his name's Richard Armitage - the Deputy Secretary of State. were the lot of y'all this pissed off back then?
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Post by Tennesseer on May 27, 2014 10:26:31 GMT -5
A Bush Administration official leaked the name of CIA operative Valerie Plame. Remember 'Plamegate'? ha, I was just looking up that guy's name to make the same sort of comment. his name's Richard Armitage - the Deputy Secretary of State. were the lot of y'all this pissed off back then? "IT WASN'T BUSH'S FAULT!", as they chanted in unison.
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Post by tallguy on May 27, 2014 10:31:58 GMT -5
But of course an inadvertent oversight by military officials which was not caught by lower-level press officials is far greater an offense against the country than a deliberate act by a Deputy Secretary of State.
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chiver78
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Post by chiver78 on May 27, 2014 10:34:39 GMT -5
oh of course! what were we thinking?
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Ombud
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Post by Ombud on May 27, 2014 10:57:20 GMT -5
The buck stops on his desk. the White House appointees are appointed by Obama and have his full faith and support. He is well aware of their abilities to keep certain things out of their emails
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Post by tloonya on May 27, 2014 11:02:07 GMT -5
I am hyperventilating here...please, give me an example that Putin is still dumber than Obama...please...and yes, I took my Xanax, thanks...
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Post by tallguy on May 27, 2014 11:04:01 GMT -5
The buck stops on his desk. the White House appointees are appointed by Obama and have his full faith and support. He is well aware attempt at getting chills and abilities to keep certain things out if their emails
From the link:
So..., the only people who MAY have been appointed by President Obama were the ones who realized the mistake and corrected it? Sounds about right.
And I can't even figure out what the rest of your post was attempting to say. Would you like to try again? No, don't bother. There's likely nothing sensible there anyway.
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Post by Ombud on May 27, 2014 11:11:48 GMT -5
Google translator from talk to text puts it out weird sometimes. Corrected my post
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Post by tallguy on May 27, 2014 11:14:39 GMT -5
Okay, no problem. But I still don't get why you think the President appoints or has any real direct meaningful contact with low-level employees.
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Post by Ombud on May 27, 2014 11:32:23 GMT -5
we don't know right now exactly who was responsible for the leak. We still don't know exactly what happened with Ben Ghazi and for some [political?] reason may never know. It took a long time for Plamegate to come out, and yes the Bush administration was responsible for that IMHO.
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Post by billisonboard on May 27, 2014 11:52:57 GMT -5
we don't know right now exactly who was responsible for the leak. We still don't know exactly what happened with Ben Ghazi and for some [political?] reason may never know. It took a long time for Plamegate to come out, and yes the Bush administration was responsible for that IMHO. What don't you know about what happened at Benghazi?
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Post by Ombud on May 27, 2014 12:18:30 GMT -5
Outside of requesting support and not getting it? Who is responsible for denying that request? Why was Susan Rice hung out to dry for repeating Obama's version of the story? Was he involved with that decision? Who decided to plan the whole thing on a video instead of actually take responsibility for what was actually unfolding? I must have missed all that. Can you fill in the blanks? Thanks
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Post by billisonboard on May 27, 2014 12:28:04 GMT -5
Outside of requesting support and not getting it? Who is responsible for denying that request? Why was Susan Rice hung out to dry for repeating Obama's version of the story? Was he involved with that decision? Who decided to plan the whole thing on a video instead of actually take responsibility for what was actually unfolding? I must have missed all that. Can you fill in the blanks? Thanks Do you mean "support" as the attacks were taking place or the request for more security prior to the attacks? So the other main issues seem to be not about what happened at Benghazi but what happened in Washington D.C. The political games of the aftermath aren't all that interesting to me so I don't have the information to fill in those blanks. Sorry.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on May 27, 2014 12:31:40 GMT -5
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Post by tloonya on May 27, 2014 12:36:46 GMT -5
Is this is the reason there are so many 'Obama impeachment' polls on Internet?
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Post by tallguy on May 27, 2014 12:37:45 GMT -5
There are always enough legitimate reasons to question a president or his actions. Making crap up only damages one's own credibility.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on May 27, 2014 12:47:49 GMT -5
Is this is the reason there are so many 'Obama impeachment' polls on Internet? You would think that arming and training the people who'll be bombing your embassies and killing your soldiers in a few years would be an impeachable offense, but every US President since Nixon has done it consequence-free. It's comforting to know that in hard times, with massive debt, a sagging economy, and a near-universal demand by the American populace to withdraw from foreign conflicts, a Nobel Peace Prize winner will nevertheless stand tall to feed the war machine in the noble tradition of his predecessors.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2014 14:28:49 GMT -5
Outside of requesting support and not getting it? Who is responsible for denying that request? Why was Susan Rice hung out to dry for repeating Obama's version of the story? Was he involved with that decision? Who decided to plan the whole thing on a video instead of actually take responsibility for what was actually unfolding? I must have missed all that. Can you fill in the blanks? Thanks i have a few more to add who gave the order for the military to stand down? where was Pres Obama during the crisis? was he asleep as some claim...getting shuteye for his Las Vegas fundraiser the next day? Who was in charge of the situation room? Obama nor Clinton were in there...who was....and who was making the decisions and "what does it matter" at this point is not an answer
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Post by billisonboard on May 27, 2014 16:02:11 GMT -5
Outside of requesting support and not getting it? Who is responsible for denying that request? Why was Susan Rice hung out to dry for repeating Obama's version of the story? Was he involved with that decision? Who decided to plan the whole thing on a video instead of actually take responsibility for what was actually unfolding? I must have missed all that. Can you fill in the blanks? Thanks i have a few more to add who gave the order for the military to stand down? Here is a link to the testimony of the general who was making decisions at the time: armedservices.house.gov/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=AAEBCAA5-4C8F-4820-BACD-2DB9B53C3424where was Pres Obama during the crisis? was he asleep as some claim...getting shuteye for his Las Vegas fundraiser the next day? Let us assume he was sleeping. What was he going to do at that point?Who was in charge of the situation room? Obama nor Clinton were in there...who was....and who was making the decisions Were there serious decisions to be made at the time by top officials?and "what does it matter" at this point is not an answer I think asking why it does matter is a great question.
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Post by truthbound on May 28, 2014 3:03:44 GMT -5
Answer. No one at the White House has been thinking for six years.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2014 7:36:49 GMT -5
If you obfuscate long enough, you can say it's old news and completely investigated. Trying to get to the correct details is politically motivated. Didn't you know ?
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