sarcasticgirl
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Post by sarcasticgirl on Mar 18, 2014 12:39:40 GMT -5
me too... but even more so, I want weather that allows for open toe shoes! I need to get a pedicure Saturday before I leave for Aruba. BRAGGART! you beat me to it.
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whoisjohngalt
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Mar 18, 2014 14:58:14 GMT -5
Well, I've used up that certificate and was going to just pay him, but now he charges $60 and still expects tips. Don't mean to steal this thread, but are the hair stylist wages/salaries about the same as restaurant waiters and therefore tips are expected? I don't think so. Also, the guy I went to was the owner of the salon, and he still expected tips. I "heard" somewhere that owners really shouldn't expect tips, but I was already tied to his salon by the certificate
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kittensaver
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Post by kittensaver on Mar 18, 2014 15:07:59 GMT -5
$145 for haircut and highlights + tip. VHCOLA. However, this is dirt cheap for the caliber of stylist: she trained with Sally Hershberger (Meg Ryan's stylist for many years), and has worked on countless celebrities. She was the first one to give Avril Lavigne her lowlights/reverse ombre a dozen or more years back. She primarily works for an agency who contracts her out to movies, TV, QVC, models, magazines etc. But she still works in a salon 2 days a weeks. She says it keeps her sane and grounded to work with real people, lol. I'm lucky to have followed her around for the last 25 or so years .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2014 16:10:02 GMT -5
I only get my hair cut when I also get a relaxer. Just a relaxer is $60, add the haircut and it's $70. I really hope this doesn't take us in a direction I'm not trying to go but I'm trying to find a white stylist to color my hair. Around here, it seems that they tend to be more knowledgeable about coloring hair. I don't want orange-y highlights. I've always heard that it will cost a lot more than going to a "black" salon but I'm ok with that as long as it's done right. I'm not sure how to find somebody though. The only white person I know that experiments with color and funky hair cuts and has good results, goes to a stylist about 40 miles away from me. I don't want to drive that far lol. I got a lot of my hair cut off a few weeks ago and ended up going to SuperCuts to find a white stylist to fix the haircut my regular stylist had given me the day before. She did fix it (I paid $20 with tip), but I'm skeert to let someone at SuperCuts color my hair, if they even do that. I'll keep letting my regular stylist relax my hair, but I really wish she'd come on to 2014 with the cutting and coloring techniques. I'm tired of plain hair.
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whoisjohngalt
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Mar 18, 2014 20:09:51 GMT -5
I only get my hair cut when I also get a relaxer. Just a relaxer is $60, add the haircut and it's $70. I really hope this doesn't take us in a direction I'm not trying to go but I'm trying to find a white stylist to color my hair. Around here, it seems that they tend to be more knowledgeable about coloring hair. I don't want orange-y highlights. I've always heard that it will cost a lot more than going to a "black" salon but I'm ok with that as long as it's done right. I'm not sure how to find somebody though. The only white person I know that experiments with color and funky hair cuts and has good results, goes to a stylist about 40 miles away from me. I don't want to drive that far lol. I got a lot of my hair cut off a few weeks ago and ended up going to SuperCuts to find a white stylist to fix the haircut my regular stylist had given me the day before. She did fix it (I paid $20 with tip), but I'm skeert to let someone at SuperCuts color my hair, if they even do that. I'll keep letting my regular stylist relax my hair, but I really wish she'd come on to 2014 with the cutting and coloring techniques. I'm tired of plain hair. I had a black person do my relaxer many years ago bc I thought they would be an expert in it and she burned my hair and left me with a bald spot! It's one of the reasons my hair now is a complete mess.
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zibazinski
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Post by zibazinski on Mar 18, 2014 20:24:14 GMT -5
Find a person that knows how to do keratin treatment. I get mine done at least twice a year and I totally love my hair. Pink, a lot of white stylists never learn how to do ethnic hair. My own stylist in Florida won't because she says she has almost no training in it. Find an upscale salon that specializes in ethnic hair. Ask at a beauty supply store maybe or at a beauty school?
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quince
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Post by quince on Mar 18, 2014 20:50:14 GMT -5
$15.00 + tip every 3 months or so- when I remember. My hair is always in a ponytail anyway- my mom said something about going to a higher end salon to get my hair cut, and not to worry about the cost since I only cut it once every couple of years- she can't even tell I've had it cut multiple times since my last salon experience, which tells me it's not worth the money to bother.
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whoisjohngalt
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Mar 18, 2014 20:51:29 GMT -5
Find a person that knows how to do keratin treatment. I get mine done at least twice a year and I totally love my hair. Pink, a lot of white stylists never learn how to do ethnic hair. My own stylist in Florida won't because she says she has almost no training in it. Find an upscale salon that specializes in ethnic hair. Ask at a beauty supply store maybe or at a beauty school? Zib, is that for me? never heard of this before
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2014 21:28:47 GMT -5
Mine charges $20, and she is really good. I tip her $5.
The problem is that she is really good and everyone in the entire town goes to her. She quadruple books and takes people without appointments that are regular. So you can end up waiting an hour to get your haircut. That drives me nuts.
I am way overdue so I need to call her. But I dread it. Still, she is really good. And she is really affordable.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2014 21:31:21 GMT -5
My HC is $40 plus $10 tip and it's worth every penny and more. I have very thick, straight hair with multiple cowlicks so the cut is absolutely crucial. My last visit I channeled my inner Jamie Lee Curtis (think Activia commercials) and went super short so there's no hiding a bad cut. My stylist also guides me in styling product selection which saves me a lot of $$ in the long run because I'm no longer in the try it and toss it loop. The same stylist does DH's hair and it looks better than it has in years.
I pay $47 plus $10 tip for a deluxe mani/pedi, plus brow and lip wax. This includes massage chair, hand, shoulder and foot massage, paraffin treatment, and hot stone and oil leg massage. A hand-painted design on my big toe is extra but these ladies can duplicate any image you show them. Last December I went with a Christmas tree (complete with ornaments and star) on one foot and a snowman on the other. Green tea and unlimited Vietnamese soap operas are included at no extra charge. One thing I've learned is that soap operas are absolutely the same all over the world and you don't need to understand the language to know who's the bad guy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2014 22:09:56 GMT -5
Lena, I don't mean to get all weird again, but I'm curious about your hair since you've had a relaxer. Is your hair kinky? Those are some pretty strong chemicals. If your hair isn't kinky AND you had someone that didn't know what they were doing and/or used too strong or cheap products, I could see your hair ending up badly damaged. I've never gone to school for hair styling but I know a lot more about relaxers (decades of relaxing my own hair and some friends' and family members' starting in my early teens) than I do color. I'm sorry that happened to you. :-(
Zib, I don't have a problem asking if they've ever put color in a black woman's relaxed hair lol. Really, if they know what effects the chemicals from my relaxer will have on the color and can do the color correctly, I can leave with it wet and finish it myself.
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whoisjohngalt
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Mar 18, 2014 22:39:09 GMT -5
Lena, I don't mean to get all weird again, but I'm curious about your hair since you've had a relaxer. Is your hair kinky? Those are some pretty strong chemicals. If your hair isn't kinky AND you had someone that didn't know what they were doing and/or used too strong or cheap products, I could see your hair ending up badly damaged. I've never gone to school for hair styling but I know a lot more about relaxers (decades of relaxing my own hair and some friends' and family members' starting in my early teens) than I do color. I'm sorry that happened to you. :-( Zib, I don't have a problem asking if they've ever put color in a black woman's relaxed hair lol. Really, if they know what effects the chemicals from my relaxer will have on the color and can do the color correctly, I can leave with it wet and finish it myself. I USED to have very nice curly hair. Very thick but not kinky at all. But being a stupid 20 yr old, I wanted it as straight as I could get it AND not have it all frizzy when it's humid. Bc in MD it was humid all.the.freaking.time. So I decided to get a relaxer and had it done by my regular hair dresser (she is white). It was AMAZING!!!! For 6 months or so, I could just wash, blow dry it a bit and it was straight and great looking. So, of course, I decided to do it again. My hairdresser, the one who was booked months in advance, asked her assistant to do it this time. the girl was black, so I figured, "hey, great, for SURE, she knows what she is doing". yeah......
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Post by marvholly on Mar 19, 2014 6:13:47 GMT -5
WAAAY back (more than 10 years) I paid $30+tip. today it is over $50. Got tired of that. Found a GREAT woman at Super cuts for years but she retired (her adult kids wanted a FREE babysitter. Shopped. Shopped & shopped some more. Found a GREAT Guy at Great Clips about a year ago. Charge there is about $13; seniors about $10. I generally wait until there is a coupon out for $8. However, I do have to be careful because my guy ONLY works 3 Sundays/month.
I do not color or highlight. I live in metro Chicago – not known for LCOL. It is VERY hard to find someone who can handle my coarse, VERY wiry (read can scrub pots) hair. Students cannot handle my hair. Takes a man or someone w/similar hair.
I DO get mani/pedi at a nail school in a nearby town. $12 + tip.
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zibazinski
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Post by zibazinski on Mar 19, 2014 8:35:29 GMT -5
Yes, Lena, ask around. I hate telling you that because I had two different stylists in Michigan and they had no clue how to do keratin. They all claim they do but they don't and its a procedure taking 2-3 hours if done correctly. I go to my stylist in Florida for them because she knows how to do it. I'd find someone in the south, if possible. It isn't cheap, think 2-3 hundred bucks but it works out for me to be basically 40-50 bucks a month and I'm worth that to love my hair.
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Post by milee on Mar 19, 2014 8:50:12 GMT -5
Zib's right about the Keratin treatment. It's expensive and takes a long time, but gets rid of the frizz, makes it much quicker to dry and lasts for months. I've stopped doing the full Keratin (which was $300 and supposed to last for 4 months, but since I'm in salt water often, it never lasted more than 2 months) and just do the "Keratin Express" which is slightly less expensive (I think $175) and on me - lasts about as long as the full Keratin/about 2 months. I'll do it 3-4 times a year, so about 1/2 the year, my hair has the Keratin and half the year it doesn't. It's very noticeable when the treatment has worn off. Without Keratin, I get major waves and frizz plus if I ever blow dry it, it takes about 45 - 60 minutes. With the Keratin, there's no frizz, it's not completely straight but much more manageable and if I blow dry it, takes about 10 minutes.
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whoisjohngalt
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Mar 19, 2014 8:54:31 GMT -5
So, are there any questions I should ask to try to determine if they know what they are talking about?
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zibazinski
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Post by zibazinski on Mar 19, 2014 10:22:37 GMT -5
I'd ask about the formula they use. How many people they have done it on. How long does their procedure normally take. What is their procedure? If it doesn't involve a long time with a very hot flat iron, keep on truckin.
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zibazinski
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Post by zibazinski on Mar 19, 2014 10:23:55 GMT -5
If they don't schedule themselves and entire block of time except maybe a quick bang trim, keep on going. My stylist schedules her keratins on Tuesdays. A day she normally doesn't work. She can do two in her normal day. One in the am and one in the pm.
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Post by gs11rmb on Mar 19, 2014 13:40:04 GMT -5
Cut and colour - $140 + tip. I think just a cut is $75 + tip.
Japanese Thermal - $600
I'm in Atlanta.
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Post by whoami on Mar 20, 2014 1:00:24 GMT -5
$185 before tip every 5-6 weeks for cut color and highlights. Ive been with her for 8 or 9 years now through multiple salons. She has never messed up my hair and for me thats a huge deal.
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marvholly
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Post by marvholly on Mar 20, 2014 5:43:57 GMT -5
In my area only korean salons do keratin treatments. DD1 did it YEARS ago (8-10) and it was several hundred $$. Lasted about 6 months. She has curly, wavy hair. Min is the kinky type & I used to use the same relaxer black ladies use. Gave that up afte DD2 was born & I went REAL short = nearly wash n wear hair.
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whoisjohngalt
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Mar 20, 2014 20:44:34 GMT -5
Got my haircut. $35. She did a good job. The ONLY thing I didn't like was that evidently they allow a whole hour for a haircut and I think she was trying to stretch it that long bc she was talking and talking and talking. So, next time, I'll just tell her I am in a hurry, so hopefully don't have to spend that long there.
A place is 5 min from my house, so that's also great.
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Post by Nazgul Girl on Mar 20, 2014 22:20:08 GMT -5
I used to think my haircuts were expensive, but not anymore ! I pay $ 32 for the cut, plus $ 5 for the tip. I get my hair cut every 5-6 weeks. My hair is silvery gray and looks good in it's natural color.
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Post by daisy on Mar 20, 2014 23:16:10 GMT -5
LCOLA here and I pay $23 + tip for the salon owner to cut my hair. It's super thin and fine and finding someone who understands that LAYERS upon layers is the only thing that makes it look like hair and not a stringy mess is a blessing.
Someone told old me once that tipping the owner is a no-no but that just seems wrong to me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2014 23:34:35 GMT -5
Our local salon is expensive. $50 for cut & blow dry by one of their new graduates. $70 and up for the more experienced ones. $55 for color or $95 for partial foil. Guess who colors her own hair.
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zibazinski
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Post by zibazinski on Mar 21, 2014 8:35:42 GMT -5
Try NOT tipping the owner and you'll see how your hair turns out. I don't like it either but it's expected now as well as a Christmas bonus.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Mar 21, 2014 9:48:27 GMT -5
I pay $37 for a haircut. I don't tip. I've been going to the same person some 20 years. DH goes with me and we both get our hair cut.
This person works from her home or goes to clients' homes. She has a lot of long term customers. We've become personal friends and now on haircut days, the three of us go out to lunch after haircuts. (We schedule the next apt on haircut day and she blocks off the time).
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cronewitch
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Post by cronewitch on Mar 21, 2014 17:01:27 GMT -5
I get a senior discount now so $13 instead of $17 or so. I go every time I have my oil changed because I can walk there and back in the time of an oil change. It grows out to remind me to change the oil. I am starting to be a very generous tipper so like a $7 tip, last time I didn't even count the tip so just gave her a 5 and a pile of ones maybe 9-10 total tip. I am not one to give to charity so decided now to over tip people because I don't go to tipped places much and they can use the money, at least they are working not on welfare.
My hair is super easy, short, straight pretty thick but not as bad as when I was a kid never frizzy, no conditioner just shampoo and go.
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Post by bean29 on Mar 24, 2014 21:24:43 GMT -5
Lol. Zib I usually tip 20%. I just can't bring myself to tip as a christmas bonus on top of that. If I am in salon at christmas I will add $5-10 to my 20%, but that's it.
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zibazinski
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Post by zibazinski on Mar 25, 2014 8:43:36 GMT -5
I get that. I usually tip double my usual tip. I think I gave him $40 for Christmas but at least I didn't have to tip two hairdressers since I was nowhere near my Florida one!! But I see her the 4th to get my keratin for AZ and Italy. Plus to last me thru summer here, if we have one.
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