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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2014 15:41:57 GMT -5
Ava the other thing is, if you can find somebody to tutor you, even for a couple of hours, you may still be able to "catch up". And then you might find the rest of the course to be much easier. You have probably "fallen behind", so to speak. As long as you continue to struggle with prior lessons / concepts in that class, you'll continue to struggle with what comes afterwards. It really may be a few hours / $100 very well spent. The math program here in France is more advanced compared to in the US, and most of my kids have struggled with it at some point in HS. (I know it's not statistics lol.) We recently got a tutor for DS3. He's only had 4 lessons so far, but he is improving EXPONENTIALLY. That's because the tutor is giving him the "building blocks" / "basics" he somehow never acquired (or didn't acquire to the extent he should have). So I would certainly prefer to try that before deciding to take the course again during the summer, at an accelerated rate, when your mom is here. Good luck! I know you'll find a solution, you always do! ETA If I were you I'd email your teacher rather than wait another 10 days to see him. If you're still "in the running" for this class, you can take advantage of your lighter schedule during school break to either do online tutorials, or find a tutor.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 16, 2014 15:52:35 GMT -5
Another thing to consider is that a tutor is working with you one on one so it is a much more effective use of time, as they cater to what YOU know.
Most stats is based on principles that you learn early on, and not catching the idea has an impact over and over in future classes. So even if you do not do well in this class and need to retake it, you will have a stronger base of knowledge.
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Post by Ava on Mar 16, 2014 16:19:06 GMT -5
Mich and Debthaven; very good ideas. See, that's why I come here for advice . I would rather talk to him in person; but then I'll be wasting 10 valuable days. I'll e-mail him, and if I'm still in the running, I'll try to learn with the book and the You Tube tutorials. In 10 days I'll also know if I can do this on my own, or if I really need a tutor. I'm willing to spend the money if I need it and there's still a chance. Summer Statistics sounds horrible to me. Specially since my mom will be here, home alone while I take classes. She said she'll do whatever needs to be done for me to pass Statistics. Still, I rather not. I'll e-mail the professor tonight. Wish me luck!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2014 16:20:36 GMT -5
Good luck Ava! ETA: I'm willing to bet that you get a better / nicer answer than you expect. Teachers LOVE motivated students, and many will go the extra mile if they see that you're motivated and concerned.
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Post by Anne_in_VA on Mar 16, 2014 16:45:28 GMT -5
Good Luck Ava! I'm glad you're going to check with the professor now rather than waiting.
If I were you I would still get a tutor as well do the YouTube videos or Khan Academy. I like KA as I think they are geared to very basic information and can guide you along to where you need to be.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 16, 2014 18:46:54 GMT -5
I always did fairly well in stats classes because it made sense in my brain. I know others who had miserable problems and we were all taught by the same professors. However, it was ALWAYS a hell of a lot of work. I think I had to put in about 6 hours of work each week on that single class.
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Post by tskeeter on Mar 17, 2014 10:51:31 GMT -5
Mich and Debthaven; very good ideas. See, that's why I come here for advice . I would rather talk to him in person; but then I'll be wasting 10 valuable days. I'll e-mail him, and if I'm still in the running, I'll try to learn with the book and the You Tube tutorials. In 10 days I'll also know if I can do this on my own, or if I really need a tutor. I'm willing to spend the money if I need it and there's still a chance. Summer Statistics sounds horrible to me. Specially since my mom will be here, home alone while I take classes. She said she'll do whatever needs to be done for me to pass Statistics. Still, I rather not. I'll e-mail the professor tonight. Wish me luck! Ava, I experienced some challenges with statistics, too. Instructor who did not speak English as a first language, moved quickly, if the class was having trouble grasping a concept and asked lots of questions, he'd skip part of the lecturn he had planned for that class and never come back to it, and still include the skipped material in exams. I ended up dropping the class just before the drop deadline. I found my second attempt at taking the class (same instructor) much easier because I had already learned some of the concepts and was able to focus on the concepts I'd had trouble with the first time. And I was more tuned in to the instructor's speech patterns and pronunciation qirks, so I wasn't sitting there going "what did he say?". Still wasn't a great statistics student, but I did get a B in the class.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 17, 2014 12:36:02 GMT -5
I had the same issue with my physics class. Physics is not my strong point to begin with and the professor that taught it was from India. After failing the first exam, I had an epiphany....something clicked in my brain and I was able to understand what he was saying. Did much better on the second exam and final, so was able to pull a B out of the class but I'm not sure what would have happened if I had never been able to get past the language issue.
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Post by weaselfer on Mar 17, 2014 14:11:24 GMT -5
Is there a statistic major at your school? You might be able to find a stat major who is tutoring on the side for much less. I found a tutor for graduate statistics (I got an MS in statistics but needed help with the calculus) and my tutor was a PhD statistic student. Much cheaper and he had flexible hours. Statistics in 5 weeks is killer. I took a stat course in 8 weeks, worked fulltime, married, and two kids. That stat course was my life for 8 weeks. I loved the course (MS in Stats so of course) but I never took another summer course.
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Post by suesinfl on Mar 18, 2014 3:41:34 GMT -5
Ava, I hope that you see this because I want you to know that I really admire you and what you have done with your life. You have given me inspiration with your life and goals. I often think of your struggles, your honestly, and your tenacity to carry on even when you really want to quit, helps keep me going. We are at different points in our lives, but I really understand being tired of doing nothing but work, school, homework and not having a social life. It seems that I have been in college for years (actually I have been) an close to finish my BS. Right now you are young, and I feel that you should pursue your goals and get that MBA. Do what you need to do to finish, you will not regret it; it’s much easier to do it now while you are on a roll. Once you either stay where you are, move to south FL, or go back to your home country, you will always have your education. “Life” will happen for you and you will be able to enjoy that life because of the opportunities that your education will give you. Please don’t give up now, you have come such a long way; wishing you all the best!
suesinfl who should not really be up at this time, but trying to finish up a research paper that needs to be done.....
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Post by 973beachbum on Mar 18, 2014 7:17:59 GMT -5
Ava I have heard this problem, but from the prof's side mostly. Although DH is the prof in the math dept who doesn't have an accent, so he gets the ones who dropped the classes where the profs did. I understand that there are people with accents in the world, but I am not good at understanding accents. So just trying harder won't work for me. If I was in a class where the subject wasn't familiar to me it would be damn near impossible for me to understand let alone learn. I need the speaker to either be speaking without an accent, or to have some context to what they are saying for me to understand. What you are describing here sounds like you are getting neither. Thruthfully I wouldn't stay in the course. Staying in and flunking isn't a great idea. You can drop a class and yet keep coming to class strange as it sounds. This way you won't get an F, but will be able to sit in class. This way you can continue to learn the states even if it isn't enough to get a good grade. Then you have the choice to take the class again with this prof or try and take the class somewhere else with a different prof. Most programs allow students to take a few classes at other schools. Have you checked to see if it is possible? I would also ask the prof about dropping the class but still attending. I'm sure he can tell if you are at a point where you can pull your grade up. I have also never heard of a prof not being fine with a student dropping and yet still attending class. Good luck and i HTH!
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