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Post by henryclay on Feb 23, 2011 21:04:54 GMT -5
Perhaps this bunch has run their course in the UK, because they now have their sights set on the White House. Some on here may opine that it's their "right", as if anybody would argue that it wasn't. But I wonder how much more will be required before those same people realize that we are at war and the booty at risk is the very foundation of this country. "...........A hardline Muslim cleric who sparked anger across the U.S. with his anti-American comments in a television interview this month is to hold a protest outside the White House. British extremist Anjem Choudary - who once said 'the flag of Islam will fly over the White House' - has announced he will lead a demonstration calling on Muslims to establish the Sharia law across America. The rally, planned for March 3, is to take place just weeks after his on-screen row with Fox News presenter Sean Hannity. Mr Choudary, 43, called Americans 'the biggest criminals in the world today.' The former leader of outlawed group Islam4UK told the Daily Star 'we expect thousands to come out and support us.' Mr Choudary said the March rally was organised by the Islamic Thinkers society, an extremist group based in New York. Two other British extremists, Abu Izzadeen and Sayful Islam, have also been asked to speak at the demonstration..." www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1358792/Anjem-Choudary-lead-White-House-protest-calling-Muslims-rise-up.html
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Post by vonnie6200 on Feb 23, 2011 21:12:29 GMT -5
Perhaps this bunch has run their course in the UK, because they now have their sights set on the White House. Some on here may opine that it's their "right", as if anybody would argue that it wasn't. But I wonder how much more will be required before those same people realize that we are at war and the booty at risk is the very foundation of this country. "...........A hardline Muslim cleric who sparked anger across the U.S. with his anti-American comments in a television interview this month is to hold a protest outside the White House. British extremist Anjem Choudary - who once said 'the flag of Islam will fly over the White House' - has announced he will lead a demonstration calling on Muslims to establish the Sharia law across America. The rally, planned for March 3, is to take place just weeks after his on-screen row with Fox News presenter Sean Hannity. Mr Choudary, 43, called Americans 'the biggest criminals in the world today.' The former leader of outlawed group Islam4UK told the Daily Star 'we expect thousands to come out and support us.' Mr Choudary said the March rally was organised by the Islamic Thinkers society, an extremist group based in New York. Two other British extremists, Abu Izzadeen and Sayful Islam, have also been asked to speak at the demonstration..." www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1358792/Anjem-Choudary-lead-White-House-protest-calling-Muslims-rise-up.htmlWell that's a fine howdy you do - I am sure it will really advance their cause and endure them to Americans
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 23, 2011 21:19:50 GMT -5
The United States of America is a great country. Why she even allows those who disagree with her to protest in front of the White House.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2011 21:22:16 GMT -5
Isn't it great we live in a country where every whackjob has the right to say whatever they want... (I'd like to include Rick Santorum in that....)
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Post by ChiTownVenture on Feb 23, 2011 22:11:57 GMT -5
The United States of America is a great country. Why she even allows those who disagree with her to protest in front of the White House. Two other British extremists, Abu Izzadeen and Sayful Islam, have also been asked to speak at the demonstration..."If organized protesters show up and yell during the scheduled speeches will the protesters be arrested for conspiracy to disrupt??
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 23, 2011 22:19:18 GMT -5
... Mr Choudary said the March rally was organised by the Islamic Thinkers society, an extremist group based in New York. ... I wonder if they know that they organised a rally scheduled to happen in a couple of weeks? www.islamicthinkers.com/index/index.phpI would think they might mention it on their web site if they did.
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Post by handyman2 on Feb 23, 2011 22:20:38 GMT -5
With as many nut jobs out there I hope they have bullet proof vests on. I really wonder how many supporters will show up.
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Post by ameiko on Feb 23, 2011 22:41:30 GMT -5
Wow, the one place that I would love to see a suicide bomber show up.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 23, 2011 22:43:29 GMT -5
Wow, the one place that I would love to see a suicide bomber show up. So you support terrorism as a tactic?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2011 22:44:26 GMT -5
You know... that's one thing i liked about Battlestar Gallactica... they showed you just how easy it was to accept the roles of the terrorists we love to condemn... if the conditions are right...
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 23, 2011 22:51:43 GMT -5
Wow, the one place that I would love to see a suicide bomber show up. I hope you mean event and not place as in the White House.
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Post by Mkitty is pro kitty on Feb 23, 2011 22:54:57 GMT -5
i worry more about meteroites hitting than Sharia Law having any effect on me.
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Post by ungenteel on Feb 24, 2011 1:06:18 GMT -5
<<Sharia Law>>
Is one more rightie knee jerk issue ... something used in an attempt to create fear and anger in their "base" ... using the term "base' in a derogatory sense .. since the rightie "base' is a knee jerk crowd that turns their thinking over to others
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Post by usamomma on Feb 24, 2011 1:08:47 GMT -5
So long as you are not a white/Caucasian American and/or Christian saying something against some other race from what I have heard....
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Post by ungenteel on Feb 24, 2011 1:22:23 GMT -5
<<So long as you are not a white/Caucasian American and/or Christian saying something against some other race>>
Racial epithets/generalizations are dimwit stuff from whatever source. Anyone who thinks they can generalize about an entire race are fools at best
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2011 8:59:25 GMT -5
usa mom... see the point is... they can say it... if they get called out on being a whackjob... not my fault...
Didn't i just add Santorum to the list?...
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 24, 2011 11:01:03 GMT -5
Um, I don't want to come at this from my usual position on the right-- but I have to say, "So what?" The KKK came a lot closer than the radical muslims in establishing their way of life in America, and they failed. If they failed, frankly-- no one can succeed. We've forgotten- or most never knew-- the tremendous power that hateful religious / political movement had in this country. They controlled entire states-- for awhile there, Indiana was a KKK state from the governor's mansion on down to dog catcher. So, throw Sharia on the ash heap of history now-- because that's where it's headed.
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Feb 24, 2011 11:13:18 GMT -5
...so, how many hate speech crimes will be observed/booked during this event?
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Post by henryclay on Feb 24, 2011 11:18:00 GMT -5
".......throw Sharia on the ash heap of history now-- because that's where it's headed...."
Paul, I suggest we not be so hasty in reaching that conclusion as a remedy for muslim encroachment into American neighborhoods. The KKK had "what" to draw from as supporters, as opposed to "what it was up against"? Compare that with what the muslims have to draw from. And the KKK was pure racist and nothing more. Compare their foundation with a 1300 year history of world wide religious/cultural practices , , and the essentially non-existent muslim voices of opposition to the stated goals of destroying western civilizations.
Further, , , read the laissez faire responses here to get an idea of the complacency that exists in the US. There seems to be a harsher attitude from liberals against conservatives than there is against the death dealing shadow of a muslim intrusion into our lives.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2011 11:24:29 GMT -5
Hey henry... conservative whack jobs are allowed to say whatever they want too... (I thought i added Santorum to the list?)...
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 24, 2011 11:41:20 GMT -5
...so, how many hate speech crimes will be observed/booked during this event? LOL. Hate speech (outisde of obscenity, defamation and incitement to riot) is not a crime. If it were our prisons would be overflowing twentyfold. You don't see Fred Phelps and Company in prison do you? Laws concerning hate speech outside of obscenity, defamation and incitement to riot are illegal in the United States. The United States federal government and state governments are broadly forbidden by the First Amendment of the Constitution from restricting speech. Even in cases where speech encourages illegal violence, instances of incitement qualify as criminal only if the threat of violence is imminent. This strict standard prevents prosecution of many cases of incitement, including prosecution of those advocating violent opposition to the government, and those exhorting violence against racial, ethnic, or gender minorities. Under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, employers may sometimes be prosecuted for tolerating "hate speech" by their employees, if that speech contributes to a broader pattern of harassment resulting in a "hostile or offensive working environment" for other employees. In the 1980s and 1990s, more than 350 public universities adopted "speech codes" regulating discriminatory speech by faculty and students. These codes have not fared well in the courts, where they are frequently overturned as violations of the First Amendment. Debate over restriction of "hate speech" in public universities has resurfaced with the adoption of anti-harassment codes covering discriminatory speech. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech#United_States
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Post by b2r on Feb 24, 2011 11:48:48 GMT -5
Laws concerning hate speech outside of obscenity, defamation and incitement to riot are illegal in the United States. The United States federal government and state governments are broadly forbidden by the First Amendment of the Constitution from restricting speech.
Unless the President deems otherwise?
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 24, 2011 12:01:17 GMT -5
LOL President Obama didn't block your comment in reply #21 did he?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2011 12:04:28 GMT -5
Would we let the followers of Timothy McVeigh hold a rally in front of the White House?? Of course not. Only Muslim extremists are allowed to say these things out loud and still demand and get respect from this administration.
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Post by Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ on Feb 24, 2011 12:04:38 GMT -5
LOL President Obama didn't block your comment in reply #21 did he? No, but on the old msn forums, posts would be routinely removed if they did not toe the "company" line.... in fact, it is my belief the money message boards were discontinued because they did not toe the "company" line....
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 24, 2011 12:19:41 GMT -5
Would we let the followers of Timothy McVeigh hold a rally in front of the White House?? Of course not. Only Muslim extremists are allowed to say these things out loud and still demand and get respect from this administration. If the protest was peaceful why wouldn't followers of Timothy McVeigh be allowed to protest in front of the White House.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 24, 2011 12:59:15 GMT -5
LOL President Obama didn't block your comment in reply #21 did he? No, but on the old msn forums, posts would be routinely removed if they did not toe the "company" line.... in fact, it is my belief the money message boards were discontinued because they did not toe the "company" line.... As you were a moderator on the Money boards, what were you directed to do by the MSN administrator?
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Post by Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ on Feb 24, 2011 13:06:08 GMT -5
As you were a moderator on the Money boards, what were you directed to do by the MSN administrator?
That topic would consume the entire disk space of these forums. What we were directed to do, and what was allowed were always two different things. It is no secret to anyone, even former mods, that these message boards are much better run and moderated. The management over there were completely neurotic, vascillating back and forth, changing rules and guidelines nearly daily... we even had moderators banning other moderators... honestly....
I was specifically mentioning the closing of the MSN money forums, which were specifically targeted for termination. MSN.Com has dozens and dozens, if not more, of other message forums located in other areas of that web site, that are alive and kicking.
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