study--women-most-attracted-to-guys in trucks

[tloonya]

Feb 3, 2014 12:35:28 GMT -5 Rocky Mtn Saver said:

Feb 3, 2014 12:26:06 GMT -5 Phoenix84 said:

I have wondered at times if my vehicle has played a role in my inability to date much, or have much success when I do date.  I drive a Toyota Corolla, about the unsexiest vehicle ever.  But I've been a good YM'er and got it ifor free from my parents and been driving it into the ground.

I currently drive a 10 year old mini-van.  It's a wonder I can get dates at all. 

Get a date is not all that difficult.
You go downtown and offer hobo a beer and VOILA! there is a date.
Is that how it goes, Rocky?

[Deleted]

Feb 3, 2014 12:50:25 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Feb 3, 2014 11:49:02 GMT -5 Sunnyday said:

But back to topic or actually back to topic tangent, driving a normal sized car wouldn't be any more or less dangerous if all you snicker doodles wouldn't drive your tanks to go to the grocery store.

That is just a crazy statement.  A car wouldn't be dangerous if it never had the option of getting into an accident with something bigger?  That's like saying motorcycles would never be dangerous if all the other cars stayed off the road. 

SUVs are legal cars.  I choose to drive one because I am going to fair better in a crash with one of you snicker doodles in your little cars.  I'm screwed if I hit a bigger SUV, but there are less of those on the road than those cutesy, little cars.

that's the magic word here - "CHOOSE". You are fortunate to be able to choose from a wide range of vehicle types (and please don't give me the whole 'anyone can have what I have if they just make xyz decisions'). For a lot of us, the choice is based on safety and cost. In a same-brand comparison, SUVs and trucks are more expensive than basic sedans. If my budget for a vehicle is $17k and I want to buy new, I mostly likely won't be able to afford a SUV or truck.

[Deleted]

Feb 3, 2014 12:54:12 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Feb 3, 2014 11:46:24 GMT -5 @moneyjenny82 said:

I really can't say that I care about what a man drives. People have their reasons for doing things, and a car is a rather large purchase. A guy in a 15-year-old Toyota could be taking his date to an expensive restaurant, meanwhile a man could have a tricked out Navigator and only be able to afford to take his date to McDonald's.

I DO have my prejudices about what people in general drive and how I see them acting on the road:
SUV = I own the road so I don't need to slow down in bad weather or watch out for others who don't have AWD vehicles
luxury SUV = same as above, and I'm just plain better than you
Ford F150 and greater = same as SUV
Dodge Charger = dbag
Ford Mustang = dbag
basically any sporty sedan = dbag

I've actually seen quite a few Prius drivers acting like dbags.

Hey...I had a Mustang! Funny thing is I drove much more cautiously in that because I didn't feel as safe. It is intimidating to be in such a small car when you are used to an SUV. 

Not to say that I'm an unsafe driver. But there is an extra intimidation I had when I drove the Mustang because it was so much smaller than what I used to.

I've actually seen some really douche moves by people on motorcycles and really small cars...I'm always thinking they clearly have a death wish.

what happened to the 'Stang?

and OMG do NOT get me started on motorcyclists....

[tloonya]

Feb 3, 2014 12:44:33 GMT -5 @moneyjenny82 said:

Toyota Corollas are the shit! That was my baby until it got totalled. I now drive a Hyundai Sonata - semi-fuel efficient and with great safety features! I just wish I had AWD in this weather. That's the only thing that makes my car feel less safe.

I've always though its shit. How come they are advertised on TV as #1 safety family car etc...
Are they the only name that can afford TV ads? no way!

[doxieluvr]

Feb 3, 2014 12:54:12 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Feb 3, 2014 11:46:24 GMT -5 @moneyjenny82 said:

I really can't say that I care about what a man drives. People have their reasons for doing things, and a car is a rather large purchase. A guy in a 15-year-old Toyota could be taking his date to an expensive restaurant, meanwhile a man could have a tricked out Navigator and only be able to afford to take his date to McDonald's.

I DO have my prejudices about what people in general drive and how I see them acting on the road:
SUV = I own the road so I don't need to slow down in bad weather or watch out for others who don't have AWD vehicles
luxury SUV = same as above, and I'm just plain better than you
Ford F150 and greater = same as SUV
Dodge Charger = dbag
Ford Mustang = dbag
basically any sporty sedan = dbag

I've actually seen quite a few Prius drivers acting like dbags.

I've actually seen some really douche moves by people on motorcycles and really small cars...I'm always thinking they clearly have a death wish.

No kidding. This reminded me of a situation that happened with my ex one time. We were in a large diesel truck and him and a group of 4 motorcyclists got into a road rage incident on 95. If you have never been on 95in Maryland, it is fast paced and a lot of lanes. It is not a road that you play games on. 

The motorcyclists somehow egged my ex on and he tore after them. I was screaming to stop. I had never bern so scared. If I was driving a motorcycle, there is no way I would instigate a guy driving a huge truck. You just don't know when you going to be up against someone crazier than you are. 

[Miss Tequila]

Feb 3, 2014 12:57:55 GMT -5 @moneyjenny82 said:

Feb 3, 2014 12:54:12 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Hey...I had a Mustang! Funny thing is I drove much more cautiously in that because I didn't feel as safe. It is intimidating to be in such a small car when you are used to an SUV. 

Not to say that I'm an unsafe driver. But there is an extra intimidation I had when I drove the Mustang because it was so much smaller than what I used to.

I've actually seen some really douche moves by people on motorcycles and really small cars...I'm always thinking they clearly have a death wish.

what happened to the 'Stang?

and OMG do NOT get me started on motorcyclists....

I got rid of it...it wasn't a very YM thing to buy in the first place.

[Miss Tequila]

Feb 3, 2014 12:56:31 GMT -5 @moneyjenny82 said:

Feb 3, 2014 12:50:25 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

That is just a crazy statement.  A car wouldn't be dangerous if it never had the option of getting into an accident with something bigger?  That's like saying motorcycles would never be dangerous if all the other cars stayed off the road. 

SUVs are legal cars.  I choose to drive one because I am going to fair better in a crash with one of you snicker doodles in your little cars.  I'm screwed if I hit a bigger SUV, but there are less of those on the road than those cutesy, little cars.

that's the magic word here - "CHOOSE". You are fortunate to be able to choose from a wide range of vehicle types (and please don't give me the whole 'anyone can have what I have if they just make xyz decisions'). For a lot of us, the choice is based on safety and cost. In a same-brand comparison, SUVs and trucks are more expensive than basic sedans. If my budget for a vehicle is $17k and I want to buy new, I mostly likely won't be able to afford a SUV or truck.

But that is your choice to buy new. You can choose to buy an SUV that is a few years old. For the record, I've drive SUV's for nearly 20 years now, long before I had the amount of disposable income that I now how. It is all about choice.

[Deleted]

Feb 3, 2014 13:03:56 GMT -5 doxieluvr said:

Feb 3, 2014 12:54:12 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

I've actually seen some really douche moves by people on motorcycles and really small cars...I'm always thinking they clearly have a death wish.

No kidding. This reminded me of a situation that happened with my ex one time. We were in a large diesel truck and him and a group of 4 motorcyclists got into a road rage incident on 95. If you have never been on 95in Maryland, it is fast paced and a lot of lanes. It is not a road that you play games on. 

The motorcyclists somehow egged my ex on and he tore after them. I was screaming to stop. I had never bern so scared. If I was driving a motorcycle, there is no way I would instigate a guy driving a huge truck. You just don't know when you going to be up against someone crazier than you are. 

IMO no one should be egging anyone on period. We are all moving extremely fast and/or heavy vehicles - your only point in driving should be to get from point A to point B.

[doxieluvr]

Feb 3, 2014 13:06:39 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Feb 3, 2014 12:56:31 GMT -5 @moneyjenny82 said:

that's the magic word here - "CHOOSE". You are fortunate to be able to choose from a wide range of vehicle types (and please don't give me the whole 'anyone can have what I have if they just make xyz decisions'). For a lot of us, the choice is based on safety and cost. In a same-brand comparison, SUVs and trucks are more expensive than basic sedans. If my budget for a vehicle is $17k and I want to buy new, I mostly likely won't be able to afford a SUV or truck.

But that is your choice to buy new. You can choose to buy an SUV that is a few years old. For the record, I've drive SUV's for nearly 20 years now, long before I had the amount of disposable income that I now how. It is all about choice.

This. 

[Deleted]

my mom is a SUV convert - she loves her Subaru Forrester... but she's also not the safest driver.

[Cookies Galore]

Feb 3, 2014 13:09:42 GMT -5 @moneyjenny82 said:

my mom is a SUV convert - she loves her Subaru Forrester... but she's also not the safest driver.

Oh my god, my mom is the worst! Doesn't matter what kind of car she's driving, she's an impatient tailgater. Right now she drives a ford explorer but she was just as bad in her little mitsubishi. I can't ride with her.

[skubikky]

Feb 2, 2014 7:31:56 GMT -5 swamp said:

DH is a pickup truck guy.   Maroon Chevy. 

DH is also a pickup guy.   Black Tacoma

[Sunnyday]

Feb 3, 2014 12:50:25 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Feb 3, 2014 11:49:02 GMT -5 Sunnyday said:

But back to topic or actually back to topic tangent, driving a normal sized car wouldn't be any more or less dangerous if all you snicker doodles wouldn't drive your tanks to go to the grocery store.

That is just a crazy statement.  A car wouldn't be dangerous if it never had the option of getting into an accident with something bigger?  That's like saying motorcycles would never be dangerous if all the other cars stayed off the road. 

SUVs are legal cars.  I choose to drive one because I am going to fair better in a crash with one of you snicker doodles in your little cars.  I'm screwed if I hit a bigger SUV, but there are less of those on the road than those cutesy, little cars.

I'm not sure I understand why my statement is crazy!

If all cars were the exact same size, size wouldn't factor in how serious an accident can be.

If everyone had that mentality, then everyone would keep getting vehicles bigger than their neighbours until every one had their Hummer-size vehicle, levelling out the playing field once again. This could go on until all of us are driving 18 wheelers.

I'm not suggesting that everyone drive the same car. People have different needs, but if someone drives a SUV to mitigate the damage to themselves, because they aren't very good drivers and btw, screw every one else. Perhaps, people who have so little faith in their driving skills should do everyone including themselves and their children a favour, and not drive.

And who suggested that SUVs aren't legal? What?!?

Drive your Hummers, SUVs, pick up trucks! Not like I can stop you.  

[HoneyBBQ]

Feb 3, 2014 12:29:44 GMT -5 doxieluvr said:

Feb 3, 2014 12:25:55 GMT -5 Sunnyday said:

Well, thank you for summarizing the attitude that most people who drive SUVs and trucks seem to have.

Your welcome.


want me to give my opinion of the idiots that pedal bikes on two lane country roads with no shoulders? That's another hot button for me. 

Hey, imagine that... Roads are funded both by people riding bikes AND people driving cars. WHOODATHUNK? Oh wait, I know the answer to that. 

[Miss Tequila]

Feb 3, 2014 13:18:59 GMT -5 Sunnyday said:

Feb 3, 2014 12:50:25 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

That is just a crazy statement.  A car wouldn't be dangerous if it never had the option of getting into an accident with something bigger?  That's like saying motorcycles would never be dangerous if all the other cars stayed off the road. 

SUVs are legal cars.  I choose to drive one because I am going to fair better in a crash with one of you snicker doodles in your little cars.  I'm screwed if I hit a bigger SUV, but there are less of those on the road than those cutesy, little cars.

I'm not sure I understand why my statement is crazy!

If all cars were the exact same size, size wouldn't factor in how serious an accident can be.

If everyone had that mentality, then everyone would keep getting vehicles bigger than their neighbours until every one had their Hummer-size vehicle, levelling out the playing field once again. This could go on until all of us are driving 18 wheelers.

I'm not suggesting that everyone drive the same car. People have different needs, but if someone drives a SUV to mitigate the damage to themselves, because they aren't very good drivers and btw, screw every one else. Perhaps, people who have so little faith in their driving skills should do everyone including themselves and their children a favour, and not drive.

And who suggested that SUVs aren't legal? What?!?

Drive your Hummers, SUVs, pick up trucks! Not like I can stop you.  

I have plenty of faith in my driving skills....but statistically, everyone WILL get into an accident at some point in their life.  Doesn't mean that you or I will be the driver at fault for the accident.  I can drive as safe as I want but I am only as safe as the next idiot on the road.  My job is to keep myself and my children as safe as I can.  Regardless of what you treehuggers want to think, we ARE safer in an SUV.  Therefore, I am going to buy my SUVs.  It isn't so much a "screw the rest of you" but I am not going to put myself or my children at risk (as I see it) to protect you or your children (the global "you", not you specifically).  That is your job, not mine. 

[Miss Tequila]

Feb 3, 2014 13:09:42 GMT -5 @moneyjenny82 said:

my mom is a SUV convert - she loves her Subaru Forrester... but she's also not the safest driver.

LOL! Keep her off the damn roads!

[HoneyBBQ]

Feb 3, 2014 12:35:38 GMT -5 doxieluvr said:

Who said I don't drive with caution? I could have taken out a whole sedan full of people the other day. Instead I slowed, switched lanes to avoid the idiots that pulled out on me driving the truck. I could have easily plowed into them, but i didn't. 

You're such a kind person. Truly. What would the world be without you?

[Sunnyday]

Feb 3, 2014 13:48:42 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Feb 3, 2014 13:18:59 GMT -5 Sunnyday said:

I'm not sure I understand why my statement is crazy!

If all cars were the exact same size, size wouldn't factor in how serious an accident can be.

If everyone had that mentality, then everyone would keep getting vehicles bigger than their neighbours until every one had their Hummer-size vehicle, levelling out the playing field once again. This could go on until all of us are driving 18 wheelers.

I'm not suggesting that everyone drive the same car. People have different needs, but if someone drives a SUV to mitigate the damage to themselves, because they aren't very good drivers and btw, screw every one else. Perhaps, people who have so little faith in their driving skills should do everyone including themselves and their children a favour, and not drive.

And who suggested that SUVs aren't legal? What?!?

Drive your Hummers, SUVs, pick up trucks! Not like I can stop you.  

I have plenty of faith in my driving skills....but statistically, everyone WILL get into an accident at some point in their life.  Doesn't mean that you or I will be the driver at fault for the accident.  I can drive as safe as I want but I am only as safe as the next idiot on the road.  My job is to keep myself and my children as safe as I can.  Regardless of what you treehuggers want to think, we ARE safer in an SUV.  Therefore, I am going to buy my SUVs.  It isn't so much a "screw the rest of you" but I am not going to put myself or my children at risk (as I see it) to protect you or your children (the global "you", not you specifically).  That is your job, not mine. 

Hmm, I do fine it strange that you would assume that I'm a treehugger since I never once mentioned anything about their fuel efficiency. You must not have read my posts very well.

I said that they take up too much space. You can't see over them, and they drive like they own the road. I.e, arrogant like.

But I would take being called a tree hugger a compliment and not an insult. My nature is frugal. I believe that in everything we should not use or take more than we need.

I guess if this was a mommy war, I would be a better mommy because my children are rarely ever in a car, so statisically, I'm improving my children's odd of survival???!!!

But wait, actually you would win, because I bike with our children on the road, exposing them to blind SUV drivers who won't share the road with bikers (the pedaling kind).

Oh yuck, I can't believe you pulled the mommy card! I'm a mama bear, hear me roar! Everything I do is to better protect my children's interest, so it's all excusable. [eyeroll]

[milee]

Dang, I didn't think about using the kids as an excuse. One more mommy fail on my part.  Add it to the list, peeps!  I didn't get the SUV for the kids. They seemed to fit just fine in the back of the Mini convertible for 5 years.   I only went to the SUV when I got a boat that needed to be trailered and to haul the regatta stuff around to out of town events. 

So I'm a mommy fail and a what was it?  Snicker doodle?  I even used to ride my pedal bike (not the motorcycle) to work a fair bit, so that might mess up the categories since I'm a little bit treehugger, too. 

Can I still post on YM if I at least got a screaming deal on the SUV and drive it until the wheels fall off it? 

[Chocolate Lover]

Feb 3, 2014 14:48:34 GMT -5 milee said:

Dang, I didn't think about using the kids as an excuse. One more mommy fail on my part.  Add it to the list, peeps!  I didn't get the SUV for the kids. They seemed to fit just fine in the back of the Mini convertible for 5 years.   I only went to the SUV when I got a boat that needed to be trailered and to haul the regatta stuff around to out of town events. 

So I'm a mommy fail and a what was it?  Snicker doodle?  I even used to ride my pedal bike (not the motorcycle) to work a fair bit, so that might mess up the categories since I'm a little bit treehugger, too. 

Can I still post on YM if I at least got a screaming deal on the SUV and drive it until the wheels fall off it? 

Nope, you won't fit neatly into your little pigeonhole, off to EE with you! 

[Sum Dum Gai]

Oh my god, my mom is the worst! Doesn't matter what kind of car she's driving, she's an impatient tailgater. Right now she drives a ford explorer but she was just as bad in her little mitsubishi. I can't ride with her.

People like her are why I started keeping change in the little drawer in my dash.  Throw a handful of pennies out the window at 75 while they're tailgaiting.  I don't know what it sounds like to be in their car when they hit, but I can hear it from mine.

[Miss Tequila]

Feb 3, 2014 14:18:21 GMT -5 Sunnyday said:

Feb 3, 2014 13:48:42 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

I have plenty of faith in my driving skills....but statistically, everyone WILL get into an accident at some point in their life.  Doesn't mean that you or I will be the driver at fault for the accident.  I can drive as safe as I want but I am only as safe as the next idiot on the road.  My job is to keep myself and my children as safe as I can.  Regardless of what you treehuggers want to think, we ARE safer in an SUV.  Therefore, I am going to buy my SUVs.  It isn't so much a "screw the rest of you" but I am not going to put myself or my children at risk (as I see it) to protect you or your children (the global "you", not you specifically).  That is your job, not mine. 

Hmm, I do fine it strange that you would assume that I'm a treehugger since I never once mentioned anything about their fuel efficiency. You must not have read my posts very well.

I said that they take up too much space. You can't see over them, and they drive like they own the road. I.e, arrogant like.

But I would take being called a tree hugger a compliment and not an insult. My nature is frugal. I believe that in everything we should not use or take more than we need.

I guess if this was a mommy war, I would be a better mommy because my children are rarely ever in a car, so statisically, I'm improving my children's odd of survival!!!

But wait, actually you would win, because I bike with our children on the road, exposing them to blind SUV drivers who won't share the road with bikers (the pedaling kind).

Oh yuck, I can't believe you pulled the mommy card! I'm a mama bear, hear me roar! Everything I do is to better protect my children's interest, so it's all excusable. [eyeroll]

LOL!  Again, it is a legal vehicle to drive.  I don't actually NEED an excuse.  The fact that I love my kids more than you love yours is just coincidence

[Miss Tequila]

And today I proved that having an SUV in the winter in NEPA is a wise choice. By 10am my street was still not plowed. We got about 10 inches of snow. Enough snow that it is past the bottom of the neighbors' cars, who are all stranded. I got in my SUV, put it in 4WD and had no issue getting through the snow.  Because of this thread I felt like waving to everyone that was stuck

Now, coming home there was an idiot in an SUV going way too fast for conditions (main roads were plowed but very covered and icy).  I saw him coming down the hill and I was still far enough away that I safely came to a stop.  The moment he tapped his breaks he lost control, spun out and landed in a huge bank of snow (still soft since it was fresh).  Had I not seen danger coming he likely would have hit me.  Idiots like that don't understand that ice is ice and 4WD isn't going to do shit for you.  I have also seen idiots in small cars and sports cars in the snow so being an idiot isn't isolated to SUV drivers. 

[Miss Tequila]

Feb 3, 2014 15:33:53 GMT -5 Sum Dum Gai said:

Oh my god, my mom is the worst! Doesn't matter what kind of car she's driving, she's an impatient tailgater. Right now she drives a ford explorer but she was just as bad in her little mitsubishi. I can't ride with her.

People like her are why I started keeping change in the little drawer in my dash.  Throw a handful of pennies out the window at 75 while they're tailgaiting.  I don't know what it sounds like to be in their car when they hit, but I can hear it from mine.

I'm passive aggressive. As long as my kids aren't with me I will keep jamming on the breaks. If they don't get the hint I dropped to about 10 miles an hour...

[Phoenix84]

Man, some women are so picky in their mate.  He has to drive a truck, and can't make less than $X, he can't work in certain professions, he has to be handy, sheesh, sometimes I wonder how anyone gets together.

I don't give two rips what a potential beau drives.  As Moneyjenny says, people drive what they drive for all sorts of reasons.  I don't think your car "says something about you as a person."  I drive my car because it was free.  I guess it would have been preferrable to go into 30k of debt to buy new souped up pickup truck when I was poor and just starting out making $15 an hour.  Yeah, that would show "what a man" I was.  If a woman has that attitude, I don't want to be with her.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

I drive my car because it was free

You need to find a lady YM-er.  Breathe into her ear you invested the money that would have gone to a new car at 11% return and according to your phil script lump sum investment of $20,000.00 bearing an annual return of 11% could grow to $457,845.93 in 30 years!

You'll win her over for sure!

[Phoenix84]

Feb 5, 2014 16:56:23 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

I drive my car because it was free

You need to find a lady YM-er.  Breathe into her ear you invested the money that would have gone to a new car at 11% return and according to your phil script lump sum investment of $20,000.00 bearing an annual return of 11% could grow to $457,845.93 in 30 years!

You'll win her over for sure!

That sounds like hawt foreplay.

[greeniis10]

Feb 5, 2014 12:31:37 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Feb 3, 2014 15:33:53 GMT -5 Sum Dum Gai said:

People like her are why I started keeping change in the little drawer in my dash.  Throw a handful of pennies out the window at 75 while they're tailgaiting.  I don't know what it sounds like to be in their car when they hit, but I can hear it from mine.

I'm passive aggressive. As long as my kids aren't with me I will keep jamming on the breaks. If they don't get the hint I dropped to about 10 miles an hour...

My dad was a truck driver his entire working life and he taught me that if someone is tailgaiting turn on your hazard lights and let them flash 3 or 4 times.  It gets the attention of the person behing you, but is not as dangerous as tapping your brakes, which can cause the person tailgaiting to panic and slam on their brakes, as well.  Just a thought...

[doxieluvr]

Feb 5, 2014 16:52:31 GMT -5 Phoenix84 said:

Man, some women are so picky in their mate.  He has to drive a truck, and can't make less than $X, he can't work in certain professions, he has to be handy, sheesh, sometimes I wonder how anyone gets together.

I don't give two rips what a potential beau drives.  As Moneyjenny says, people drive what they drive for all sorts of reasons.  I don't think your car "says something about you as a person."  I drive my car because it was free.  I guess it would have been preferrable to go into 30k of debt to buy new souped up pickup truck when I was poor and just starting out making $15 an hour.  Yeah, that would show "what a man" I was.  If a woman has that attitude, I don't want to be with her.

My current dh did not have a job or a car when I first met him. When we started dating, he had a job but was homeless, with no car and all his possessions were in a small storage shed.

[Miss Tequila]

Feb 5, 2014 16:52:31 GMT -5 Phoenix84 said:

Man, some women are so picky in their mate.  He has to drive a truck, and can't make less than $X, he can't work in certain professions, he has to be handy, sheesh, sometimes I wonder how anyone gets together.

I don't give two rips what a potential beau drives.  As Moneyjenny says, people drive what they drive for all sorts of reasons.  I don't think your car "says something about you as a person."  I drive my car because it was free.  I guess it would have been preferrable to go into 30k of debt to buy new souped up pickup truck when I was poor and just starting out making $15 an hour.  Yeah, that would show "what a man" I was.  If a woman has that attitude, I don't want to be with her.

See, then neither if you would want each other so you wouldn't belong together!

There is a world of difference between what I would be looking for in a guy now versus when I just got out if school. I'm not looking to be anyone's sugar momma so i probably wouldn't get serious with someone who made significantly less than me. I also am attracted to a certain kind of guy. I've never been attracted to nerdy type guys and I don't expect that would ever change.

I don't think there is anything wrong with having a type that you to for...