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Post by shanendoah on Jan 28, 2014 14:58:06 GMT -5
We are at 6 weeks since I found out I was going to be losing my job, and just over 2 weeks since my last day at work. So the burning question is, how is the job hunt going?
I have applied for at least 22 jobs. I say "at least" because I've only been tracking every application since my last week at work (January 6) for unemployment purposes. I have tracked those jobs that I've had phone interviews for, regardless of when I applied. So I know I applied for some jobs that I did not write down when I applied and have not been contacted back on.
I have had 6 phone interviews and 1 in person interview. Of the 6 phone interviews, for 2 of them, it was determined on the call that I was not a good fit for the position (both of those are mentioned in my previous thread I May Lose My Job Today.) One of them, I have heard back on that I was not the chosen candidate. (Which is fine, it was more project management and I prefer administrative operations.) The position I had the in person interview for I did not officially hear back from them, but their organization website lets you know where things stand, so I know for that I was "considered, not selected".
That leaves 3 positions I am currently "in the running for", at least as far as I made it to the phone interview. One of them, I should know whether I've made it to the second round today or tomorrow. Another one (and this is the job that's at the top of my list, of all the jobs I've applied for) I have the second round phone interview this afternoon. (First round was HR person. This round is with the hiring manager.) And the third, I just had the phone interview this morning. I should know more about it by next week.
So lets say I've applied for 35 jobs (13 that I didn't track between 12/17 and 1/6 seems on the high end of reasonable, and makes for nice round numbers). I have gotten at least to first round interviews on 7 of those jobs- that's a 20% call back rate, which I don't think is too shabby.
I have not applied for any positions with one of the major healthcare organizations (or it's newly acquired hospital) because I don't want to work in Catholic healthcare, since my personal morals do not match with the morals of Catholic healthcare. At the moment, I have also not applied to any positions with Amazon, Starbucks, Expedia, or Microsoft. However, if I start needing the job contacts for UE purposes, Amazon is hiring like crazy. But those big places, its really hard to get your resume noticed without an in. And while I have some "ins" at Amazon and Microsoft, I know I don't want the Microsoft commute and culture, and I am up in the air about Amazon. Both Starbucks and Expedia have company cultures I think I would be happy in, but I don't have any connections in those organizations.
I am also limiting myself this go round to jobs with 25% travel or less. In the past I was open to more, but with a kid at home, I want to be here.
And yes, I can afford to be picky about where I apply. Pop Tart will always have Medicaid. C and I are COBRA'd from my layoff last year through the end of May this year. We have plenty of money in the bank (was earmarked for a down payment on a new home without selling the current) to cover our expenses and this short time period while UE reviews my case before paying me. (They have to review because I quit. I should still get UE because I quit in lieu of termination, but they are required to investigate, and it could take a few weeks.)
So, good place for now. Excited about the prospects, and truly enjoying my time at home.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Jan 28, 2014 15:08:36 GMT -5
Hah, I know what Catholic healthcare system you are referring to - I don't blame you. When I moved here I didn't realize my organization was getting swallowed by that one... :/
Anyways, sounds like you have lots of options at your feet - have fun with it!
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Post by shanendoah on Jan 28, 2014 15:09:15 GMT -5
I didn't want to make the first post too long, so this post is about the awesome job I have the second round phone interview for today.
It is back with the University, but not the main campus. Instead, it's at the auxiliary campus south of where I live (meaning reverse commute). It would be a Director level position. They are in the process of changing their Interdisciplinary Arts and Sciences from a department to a school. That means their Academic Director will become a Dean (and he's the person I'm speaking with today), and they need to hire an Administrative and Operations Director.
This position would be a step up from my last position, would focus on not just my continuous process improvement strengths but also my administrative operations background. I would still be with the university, but on a smaller, closer knit campus. And, its a campus whose main student population is non-traditional students, and mostly students who are minorities and the first in their families to attend college. This is a student population I LOVE working with, and I love this campus's focus on serving them.
So, fingers crossed.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 28, 2014 15:12:16 GMT -5
Good luck! Though you do realize per YM code since you did not take a McD's job the day after means you'll be a lifelong crab eating welfare queen right? I bet I know which Catholic system you're talking about too, they just took over a hospital chain here. I won't touch them with a ten foot pole.
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Post by shanendoah on Jan 28, 2014 15:12:39 GMT -5
HoneyBBQ - It's not they I think they (or the hospital) are bad places to work. It's mostly that I disagree with some of the general Catholic healthcare policies very strongly, on a visceral level. So it's really just the best idea, for me, not to put myself in that work environment, even though I know everyone who works there is not Catholic or even agrees with all the policies. I just don't think I'd be able to keep my mouth shut, if one of those high profile cases (like the current one in Texas, where a judge had to intervene to let the family take the pregnant woman off life support) came up.
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Post by shanendoah on Jan 28, 2014 15:17:06 GMT -5
NomoreDramaQ1015 - Don't I know it. It's especially bad since I live in the city that passed the $15 minimum wage (for selected occupations, working at a McD's -unless it's in the airport -isn't one of them). But I should be applying for graveyard shift housekeeping duties at a local hotel. And actually, I won't apply for any Catholic healthcare organization. We have a couple different ones up here though one is larger than the others.
I'll just say that along with luck, C and I have worked hard to be in a situation where I can be picky about my next job. Even if UE doesn't get approved, we're fine for at least 6 months.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Jan 28, 2014 15:45:47 GMT -5
HoneyBBQ - It's not they I think they (or the hospital) are bad places to work. It's mostly that I disagree with some of the general Catholic healthcare policies very strongly, on a visceral level. So it's really just the best idea, for me, not to put myself in that work environment, even though I know everyone who works there is not Catholic or even agrees with all the policies. I just don't think I'd be able to keep my mouth shut, if one of those high profile cases (like the current one in Texas, where a judge had to intervene to let the family take the pregnant woman off life support) came up. There was actually an article in the Stranger last year about a woman who was miscarrying/losing a mid-term baby and 'we' couldn't do anything to help her... except wheel her across the hall to the planned parenthood. Very strange times. I wrote an angry email to the standing CEO at the time - he actually seemed to sympathize to some extent, saying while we wouldn't perform abortions (like a 20 week fetus dying is an abortion but anyway) we also would remain partners with Planned Parenthood. Weird. If I had known about this partnership I may not have come here.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 28, 2014 15:51:16 GMT -5
I think your talking about the same catholic healthcare system that just showed up here. I know someone who nearly bled out in the ER during a miscarriage because "they couldn't do anything" to help her because it'd be considered interfering with God's will. WTF?
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Post by midjd on Jan 28, 2014 16:07:25 GMT -5
Do you think the new Pope will help effect any changes in these policies? Shane, it sounds like you're doing really well. A 20% callback rate is awesome! (I still have PTSD from the summer of 2009 when I sent out more than 200 resumes and got ONE interview ). It's great that you have enough cash in the bank to be selective about your options - I'm sure you'll find a good fit.
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Post by shanendoah on Jan 28, 2014 18:35:07 GMT -5
midjd - I had that same problem 2008-2010, after I got my MBA, before I got my first post-MBA job.
As an update, today's phone interview for awesome job has been rescheduled to tomorrow.
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Post by taz157 on Jan 28, 2014 21:59:01 GMT -5
Good luck!
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Post by cronewitch on Jan 28, 2014 22:12:19 GMT -5
Good luck. I am near SeaTac but don't know which hospitals are anti woman unless maybe St Francis.
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Post by flopsy on Jan 28, 2014 22:50:32 GMT -5
Do you think the new Pope will help effect any changes in these policies? Shane, it sounds like you're doing really well. A 20% callback rate is awesome! (I still have PTSD from the summer of 2009 when I sent out more than 200 resumes and got ONE interview ). It's great that you have enough cash in the bank to be selective about your options - I'm sure you'll find a good fit. I wonder what policies you are referring too why Pope Francis would have any bearing on them. Just wondering... I don't know much about the man other than that he is hard core pro life. Good luck on the job hunt Shane. Have you considered using LinkedIn to look for people who work at the companies you are interested in? It can be a great resource, I'm pretty sure it is what got me my current job, if not I am not sure how the recruiter found me.
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Post by moneymaven on Jan 29, 2014 0:09:26 GMT -5
You continue to impress me! Good luck, Shane!
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Post by Formerly SK on Jan 29, 2014 9:07:46 GMT -5
I didn't want to make the first post too long, so this post is about the awesome job I have the second round phone interview for today.
It is back with the University, but not the main campus. Instead, it's at the auxiliary campus south of where I live (meaning reverse commute). It would be a Director level position. They are in the process of changing their Interdisciplinary Arts and Sciences from a department to a school. That means their Academic Director will become a Dean (and he's the person I'm speaking with today), and they need to hire an Administrative and Operations Director.
This position would be a step up from my last position, would focus on not just my continuous process improvement strengths but also my administrative operations background. I would still be with the university, but on a smaller, closer knit campus. And, its a campus whose main student population is non-traditional students, and mostly students who are minorities and the first in their families to attend college. This is a student population I LOVE working with, and I love this campus's focus on serving them.
So, fingers crossed. I graduated from that campus.
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Post by shanendoah on Jan 29, 2014 11:14:48 GMT -5
cronewitch - Providence is Catholic and they just bought out Swedish.
Formerly SK - C went to the Evergreen campus there, which works closely with the UW campus. They have the same kind of student population. Going to the graduation ceremony for the Evergreen students was just one of the most joyous occasions I ever experienced. How hard those students work, how proud their families are of them. I LOVE the idea of playing a small part in their success.
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Post by drivingaround on Jan 29, 2014 12:29:04 GMT -5
Providence bought Swedish? Dear lord, I must be living under a rock to not have seen it on the news. Two of my nurse friends worked at Swedish Everett that was purchased/merged by Providence a couple of year ago and hated the atmosphere once it became 100% Providence. So the downtown Swedish is changing to Providence?
Rock your phone interview!!! Director level would be fantastic. Is it a significant salary bump? Director level is that sweet spot of just above mid-management but not insane VP level anxiety producing commitment.
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Post by shanendoah on Jan 29, 2014 12:44:33 GMT -5
drivingaround - It is labeled as a "partnership" and I think it was kept pretty low key. I worked for in the contracting department of an insurer when it was happening, so it was something we had to be very aware of, since our Providence and Swedish contracts were slightly different. But if you look at jobs at Swedish, it generally says "Swedish, a part of Providence..."
I am hoping to rock this interview. Director before 40 (I've got two years) would be awesome. Of course that does mean that I'll either have to stagnate or at some point take that VP type position. I was an administrator in my last role, and director is one step up from that. I expect I should be able to get six figures (if not to start, it is an auxiliary campus) by the time I'm 40 as well, which is my goal.
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Post by shanendoah on Jan 29, 2014 16:54:08 GMT -5
Phone interview went well, I think. I'll know more early next week.
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Post by midjd on Jan 29, 2014 17:08:32 GMT -5
Good luck!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 17:12:31 GMT -5
Fingers crossed Shan!
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Post by shanendoah on Feb 4, 2014 18:01:46 GMT -5
Just got the call to schedule an in person meeting with the team for the UW Tacoma (number one contender) job. Will go in and meet the folks that will report to this position next Wednesday. So happy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2014 19:21:16 GMT -5
Great news Shan!!! Fingers crossed for you!
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Post by flopsy on Feb 4, 2014 20:15:31 GMT -5
Wooooo!
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Post by moneymaven on Feb 4, 2014 20:59:32 GMT -5
Awesome! Good luck!
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Post by taz157 on Feb 4, 2014 21:44:37 GMT -5
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Post by skubikky on Feb 5, 2014 8:45:36 GMT -5
Excellent! Best of luck.
Now, if all goes well and you get/take the position, will your service time, vacation etc just pick up from where you left off?
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Post by shanendoah on Feb 5, 2014 13:33:51 GMT -5
skubikky - I don't think so. But I was only there 6 months, so it's not like I'm losing a lot.
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Post by skubikky on Feb 6, 2014 7:50:54 GMT -5
skubikky - I don't think so. But I was only there 6 months, so it's not like I'm losing a lot. I understand, wasn't sure how long you'd been there. That being said, I have a good feeling for this one....you're going to do just fine.
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Post by shanendoah on Feb 13, 2014 1:47:02 GMT -5
Today was the 3.5 hour long interview with the team members for the dream position. With the exception of when I met with the 3 associate directors (for 30 minutes total), I met with one person at a time for 30 minutes each. On some level, that's a great way to get to know each person that would be reporting to this position (the associate directors may report to this position or may remain reporting to the academic director/new dean of the school), but it meant that I answered the same questions many times and there wasn't time for going in depth with anyone- either about my experience or what they are looking for in this position. I know that it can be difficult to schedule time with lots of different people, but for anyone who may be scheduling interviews right now- an hour with 2 people vs 30 minutes with each is a much better way, imo, to run your interviews. Still, I felt it went well. I am more excited about the position than I was before. However, I believe I was the first person who was brought in. (I also think I was the first person who was called, and so got my pick of days.) And the academic director, who will actually be hiring this person, is off producing curling for NBC for the next week+, so I won't be hearing anything for 2 weeks (12 days at the soonest).
I will say, I fell in love with the campus, and the building this department is located in. They have reclaimed an area of downtown from when the port used to be really busy and have adapted and renovated a bunch of old buildings. It was just beautiful. (And the office this position will have has a view of the port, the opera house, and Rainier.)
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