American Captives Killed Off Coast of Somalia

[privateinvestor]

The Somalian Pirates killed all of their captives when the saw our Navy ship approaching them

Now one has to wonder what will Obama do about this incident??

[privateinvestor]

The Navy killed four of the Somalian Pirates and took the other eight captive....after they heard shots fired from the captive yacht..

[workpublic]

mine the harbors/coastline. shut all ship traffic out of somalia.? carpet bomb the coast?

[privateinvestor]

Now watch all the second guessing about why the Navy Seals didn't act sooner?? Or the finger pointing by those who will blame the Yacht owners for sailling too close to the coast of Somalia...

[Deleted]

That's awful, but why would you choose to do your yachting that close to Somalia?

[workpublic]

not nothing for nothing PI,

my stance has always been, travel outside the US at your own risk. it's not safe out there, just because a commercial says it is. yachting near somalia? absolutely stupid. but they were semi missionaries, so they knew the risks and put their faith in God.

[privateinvestor]

Four Americans captured by Somali pirates while sailing in the Indian Ocean have been killed, NBC News reported Tuesday.

The two couples, Phyllis Macay and Robert Riggle, of Seattle, and the yacht's owners Jean and Scott Adams of California were on an around-the-world sailing trip when they were captured by pirates Friday.

U.S. officials said the pirates shot and killed all four hostages, and all the pirates had either been killed or captured by U.S. forces.



www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41715530/ns/world_news-africa/

[Deleted]

SO sad!!! Makes me think of the guy shot off his jet ski in that lake half in the US, half in Mexico. Yes, some places are not safe. Flipping terrorists everywhere these days.
Interesting story-- some of you may have heard me tell it before. My EX cab company had a Somalian cabbie. I drove these guys home from a bar one night. They told me the guy that drove them in was from Somalia. They asked him what is the deal with the Somalian pirates? He told them they are not pirates, they are the Somalia coast guard. True story.

[billisonboard]

Feb 22, 2011 9:46:39 GMT -5 @krickitt said:

SO sad!!! Makes me think of the guy shot off his jet ski in that lake half in the US, half in Mexico. Yes, some places are not safe. Flipping terrorists everywhere these days.
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Both the Somalia and the Falcon Lake killings were done by pirates, not terrorists. Both are motivated by economic gain, not the desire to create terror.

[Deleted]

Yeah, r i g h t.
Hezbollah is working with the drug cartels in Mexico, and they ARE getting in to our country. They are doing it for financial gain-- so they can plot to kill us. Is Hezbollah terrorists?? Of course they are, and so are the Somali pirates.

[jkapp]

Feb 22, 2011 10:11:05 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Feb 22, 2011 9:46:39 GMT -5 @krickitt said:

SO sad!!! Makes me think of the guy shot off his jet ski in that lake half in the US, half in Mexico. Yes, some places are not safe. Flipping terrorists everywhere these days.
....

Both the Somalia and the Falcon Lake killings were done by pirates, not terrorists. Both are motivated by economic gain, not the desire to create terror.

If it was only about economic gain then why would they shoot the hostages??? That is their money ticket and the only thing keeping them alive at that point...

[privateinvestor]

We need to see what the Navy Investigators reveal in this hostage taking incident.. Why were @ 15 Somalian Pirates on this 58 ft yacht?? And why did they fire a RPG at the Navy Destroyer?? Was this a hostage taking or ship takeover for other reasons by the Somalian Pirates?? Also we are now hearing from the Navy critics who think they were too slow to react to this hostage situation and were just following the yacht ....but there were negotiations with the Somalia Pirates but they apparently were NOT successful.

[billisonboard]

Feb 22, 2011 13:14:16 GMT -5 jkapp said:

Feb 22, 2011 10:11:05 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Both the Somalia and the Falcon Lake killings were done by pirates, not terrorists. Both are motivated by economic gain, not the desire to create terror.

If it was only about economic gain then why would they shoot the hostages??? That is their money ticket and the only thing keeping them alive at that point...

Got me there. Somalian pirates who commandeer yachts are actually part of the vast international conspiracy to create a groundswell of fear in the general population of Western nations.

Why do bank robbers sometimes shot hostages? Shit happens.

[billisonboard]

...we are now hearing from the Navy critics who think they were too slow to react to this hostage situation ...

Wouldn't be a very good Navy critic if they didn't criticize. I assume we are also now hearing from Obama critics who think that he was too slow to react to this hostage situation as well. And the world continues to turn.

[Gardening Grandma]

It IS sad. One couple was from my area. But bad things do happen to good people. And when good people put themselves in harm's way, bad things are even more likely to happen.
I don't wish to blame the victims here, but missionaries are known to sometimes take unreasonable risks believing that God is going to protect them....
It sounds as if the navy did the best they could do, and what is it exactly would you have Obama do?

[deziloooooo]

Feb 22, 2011 14:11:26 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Feb 22, 2011 13:14:16 GMT -5 jkapp said:

If it was only about economic gain then why would they shoot the hostages??? That is their money ticket and the only thing keeping them alive at that point...

Got me there. Somalian pirates who commandeer yachts are actually part of the vast international conspiracy to create a groundswell of fear in the general population of Western nations.

Why do bank robbers sometimes shot hostages? Shit happens.

Vulgar ..but true. "Shit Happens "....the pirating is a business..well financed, only Industry they have there..some times employees screw up...management can only shake their heads and hunker down till the storm passes..here i expect lots of storms over this..as you said, not in the play book..the killing of the Hostages..reason to pirate a vessel..to gain $ and most are $ earned in ransom, not the vessel or the property on the vessels ..to ransom a dead hostage..doesn't compute, little $ there, ...as you said so aptly..'shit happens ", in this case it was a accident just waiting to happen.

Some times the business model plans just don't pan out, they do have a business plan for this Industry, it is a Indusry, Pirating, in this case that is definitly a go, business model failed.

[ugonow]

You know Obama won't do anything about it,snerdly.The chicken is afraid he will be in trouble with Rush like last time----"RUSH: You know what we have learned about the Somali pirates, the merchant marine organizers that were wiped out at the order of Barack Obama, you know what we learned about them? They were teenagers. The Somali pirates, the merchant marine organizers who took a US merchant captain hostage for five days were inexperienced youths, the defense secretary, Roberts Gates, said yesterday, adding that the hijackers were between 17 and 19 years old. Now, just imagine the hue and cry had a Republican president ordered the shooting of black teenagers on the high seas. Greetings and welcome back, Rush Limbaugh, the Excellence in Broadcasting Network and the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.

They were kids. The story is out, I don't know if it's true or not, but apparently the hijackers, these kids, the merchant marine organizers, Muslim kids, were upset, they wanted to just give the captain back and head home because they were running out of food, they were running out of fuel, they were surrounded by all these US Navy ships, big ships, and they just wanted out of there. That's the story, but then when one of them put a gun to the back of the captain, Mr. Phillips, then bam, bam, bam. There you have it, and three teenagers shot on the high seas at the order of President Obama. " www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_041409/content/01125110.guest.html

[deziloooooo]

Feb 22, 2011 15:57:09 GMT -5 ugonow said:

You know Obama won't do anything about it,snerdly.The chicken is afraid he will be in trouble with Rush like last time----"RUSH: You know what we have learned about the Somali pirates, the merchant marine organizers that were wiped out at the order of Barack Obama, you know what we learned about them? They were teenagers. The Somali pirates, the merchant marine organizers who took a US merchant captain hostage for five days were inexperienced youths, the defense secretary, Roberts Gates, said yesterday, adding that the hijackers were between 17 and 19 years old. Now, just imagine the hue and cry had a Republican president ordered the shooting of black teenagers on the high seas. Greetings and welcome back, Rush Limbaugh, the Excellence in Broadcasting Network and the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.

They were kids. The story is out, I don't know if it's true or not, but apparently the hijackers, these kids, the merchant marine organizers, Muslim kids, were upset, they wanted to just give the captain back and head home because they were running out of food, they were running out of fuel, they were surrounded by all these US Navy ships, big ships, and they just wanted out of there. That's the story, but then when one of them put a gun to the back of the captain, Mr. Phillips, then bam, bam, bam. when one of them put a gun to the back of the captain, Mr. Phillips, then bam, bam, bam. quot; www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_041409/content/01125110.guest.html

"inexperienced youths,""inexperienced youths, ""hijackers were between 17 and 19 years old." "when one of them put a gun to the back of the captain, Mr. Phillips, then bam, bam, bam. ""when one of them put a gun to the back of the captain, Mr. Phillips, then bam, bam, bam. "

Congratulations, with the thousands of posts on these new boards, your take the cake so to speak, you get the stars, say three , , for the most 'off the wall " post that has appeared here..congrats again, .

17/19, what age do you think the ones who see action in military incidents are, all military forces. I would think a "gun " to the back of some ones head would warrant a response by any one charged for stopping such actions. If they were inexperienced as you say, what has that got to do with the situation , beyond the point of being more unstable when the decided to commit a deadly attack for illegal gain against civilians and peaceful folks, and how did Obama get into the equation? He might be the commander in chief but responsibility's are handed down the chain of command to those who are experienced and on the scenes to handle the actual desires of the commander in chief, the nitty gritty lie in their hands and the ones they appoint to be there and actually carry out missions.

The more I think of your inane remarks , I believe a fourth star is warranted.

[billisonboard]

Pssst dezi..., It was quoting Rush.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Maybe he'll give a speech about "civility" to the pirates?

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

I might surprise you all where I stand on this issue-- and mind you, I fully intend to cross the gulf stream in my sailboat (yet to be acquired) with my whole family and sail around the Caribbean.

If you are an American, you are protected within our territory, on our soil. IF you should CHOOSE TO LEAVE American soil, you do not have with you a taxpayer funded military protection detail.

This isn't terrorism, it's crime. This wasn't an organized terror cell trying to score a political victory. It was a high seas rip-off.

We can't protect Americans from criminals wherever they are on the planet.

Now, that being said- our president could stop apologizing for America's existence, and send a strong message about what happens to people who mess with Americans throught he back channels. IF they ARE a terror group-- or connected with some terror group's Oliver Twist scheme-- some terrorist leaders could accidentally fall down, or die in their sleep- and that would be enough. Not everything requires an F-117A, 2,000 pound bombs, and other actions that make the front page.

[deziloooooo]

Feb 22, 2011 16:29:21 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Pssst dezi..., It was quoting Rush.

I see now but unless I am wrong, it seems he was in supoport of the article , if not then a apology, stars of shame removed from him, transferred to Rush..but if in support..then he can keep the stars and I also double them, the new ones to rush.

[Angel!]

Why do bank robbers sometimes shot hostages?

Because they are terrorists?

[workpublic]

everybody shoots hostages, everybody rapes?

why isn't that logic used when someone you disagree with politically commits them?

everybody tortures prisoners, every army kills civilians

[handyman2]

This is not an Obama or a US issue. This is a UN problem since it was and continues to be incidents that start in international waters. That is why there is a multinational fleet in the area. The pirates worked off a mother ship far out into the ocean. What the UN needs to do is issue orders to blow those mother ships out of the water and not allow them a place of safe haven to work from. The pirates mostly the displaced young are being used by these groups to extort big dollars from the shipping industry.

[billisonboard]

Feb 22, 2011 18:19:24 GMT -5 Angel! said:

Why do bank robbers sometimes shot hostages?

Because they are terrorists?

At some point, when we have labeled so many different actions "terrorism" and those who engage in them "terrorists", the terms lose any clear meaning. Bank robbers are criminals. Somalians hijacking boats are pirates. People battling troops who are in their country are insurgents. Those who engage in actions for the purpose of creating terror are terrorists.

[ungenteel]

given the fact that one of the pirates was killed by a knife .. sounds like a special ops adventure gone bad

[handyman2]

givein the fact that one of the pirates was killed by a knife.. sounds like a special ops adventure gone bad.

What went bad? they got rid of the murdering sucker. Saved a lot of time and money feeding the punk. Should have sent a message and slit all of their throats.

[mmhmm]

This is not Obama's responsibility; nor, is it really the UN's responsibility. While the UN is, ultimately, responsible for events in international waters, those who decide to venture into areas like this have responsibility, too. They are responsible for themselves, and for the results of their decisions. It's not like people haven't been warned to stay out of those waters. They have. They've been warned time, and time again. If you've been warned and decide to ignore the warning, you're flouting your safety in the face of danger. That's exactly what these people did. Yes, they're victims, but they became victims due to their own choices.

[ungenteel]

<<What went bad? they got rid of the murdering sucker. Saved a lot of time and money feeding the punk. Should have sent a message and slit all of their throats.>>

Perhaps you lost the fact that they lost the hostages, who are now dead as well??