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Post by Sam_2.0 on Dec 17, 2013 14:15:43 GMT -5
Jumping in here. Wrongside, make sure you aren't using the check-in features on FB. Creeps me out when people use those, because then the crazies know where you are, and they know that you ARENT at home. Maybe she was wanting to see when you would be gone for awhile? We live in the crappy neighborhood too, and it's not easy to just pack up & leave when we are so upside down on our house. I bring any personally identifying mail to work and put it in our shredder bins. I just save it up until I have a walmart sack full and bring it in with me. At the very least you could put it in the work trash cans so that no one rifling through your home trash would find it. All our boxes go in the garage until we can find a time to take them out which usually takes a few months. But to Milee's point, start talking about how you are so glad that Amazon offers free shipping and you just realized you could get your HBA items there instead of having to brave the crazies at Walmart this time of year. Proudly announce that you now have a year's supply of feminine items and TP on-hand
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Post by Timberwolf on Dec 17, 2013 14:27:37 GMT -5
I used to work in the office of the garbage/recyling collections department for our city and I think it is quite likely that the collections department picked up your stuff on the wrong day. That type of thing happened quite regularly if, for instance, there was a substitute person working on the route that day, or a new driver just learning the route, etc. You could call your collections office and see if your garbage was collected by mistake on the wrong day, it might take a day or two to get an answer but I think it's worth checking into if you're really freaked out by it.
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Post by cronewitch on Dec 17, 2013 14:32:23 GMT -5
If you decide to etch something on valuables use a drivers license number not a name or social security number. Then if the police get your stuff they can find you.
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Dec 17, 2013 14:54:34 GMT -5
Count me in on hating these trash pickers! I can kind of live with the guy who looks for treasures or items he can fix. I respect that he is keeping them out of the landfill. I confronted a woman who claimed she was looking for "box tops for education". I saw someone looking through recycling today, but they were gone before I could confront them.
...:::"However, if you have deposit slips, credit card statements, bank statements that come to the house, those would have valuable information.":::...
Its those blasted convenience checks that are the worst. Those would be gold for a thief!
I know it sucks, but shredding everything is the only way to be certain. I just shredded a big pile today. It wasn't fun, but its done and I don't have to worry about that getting out.
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Post by dannylion on Dec 17, 2013 16:07:41 GMT -5
Ok, after searching online, I found a message board that had a lady freaking out because her garbage was stolen. After a few posts, she mentioned that she has applied for a Federal Gov job that dh has applied and tested for. Is there any chance that this was part of a background check? No. Unless everyone has gone completely mad in the two years since I retired from my Federal job with security clearance, stealing an applicant's trash is not part of the background check process. For one thing, how would they know that the trash they were stealing contained anything of interest? They'd have to steal several days' or weeks' worth of trash to get any kind of picture of you. There are easier ways to do that. I think you can rule out the Feds, or rather the contractors who do the background checks for the Feds these days, as the culprits.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Dec 17, 2013 16:13:34 GMT -5
Ok, after searching online, I found a message board that had a lady freaking out because her garbage was stolen. After a few posts, she mentioned that she has applied for a Federal Gov job that dh has applied and tested for. Is there any chance that this was part of a background check? No. Unless everyone has gone completely mad in the two years since I retired from my Federal job with security clearance, stealing an applicant's trash is not part of the background check process. For one thing, how would they know that the trash they were stealing contained anything of interest? They'd have to steal several days' or weeks' worth of trash to get any kind of picture of you. There are easier ways to do that. I think you can rule out the Feds, or rather the contractors who do the background checks for the Feds these days, as the culprits. Dannylion is correct. The feds and their contractors will likely contact friends, relatives, your banks, your former employers, the schools you attended, any organizations you belong to or volunteer with, neighbors and of course, do a background civil and criminal check on the local, state and national levels, which will include a run of international police and terrorist listings. They will run your SSN to see where else you've lived (so that it matches up to what you tell them), check your DD-214 (if you have military history). But your trash? No. It won't help them get any information they cannot obtain from other more reliable sources.
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Dec 17, 2013 16:15:54 GMT -5
Ok, after searching online, I found a message board that had a lady freaking out because her garbage was stolen. After a few posts, she mentioned that she has applied for a Federal Gov job that dh has applied and tested for. Is there any chance that this was part of a background check? We've had somebody applying a few years ago for a government job and one who just retired (41-cop) who is applying for one that required a lot of extra interviewing including us neighbors. But I've never heard of them going through their garbage. I just can't imagine them doing that but who knows? Just be careful and stay safe!
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 17, 2013 16:39:05 GMT -5
Please tell me you're armed.
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 17, 2013 16:47:22 GMT -5
A barker with a mean bark, hopefully.
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Post by Sam_2.0 on Dec 17, 2013 17:18:19 GMT -5
Please tell me you're armed. I'm not. I do have a dog though... Make sure your cell is working and you have an easy plan to GTFO. Do you have neighbors that you trust to stop by & check in on you randomly? Or any friends you could have over for a movie night? These are things that run through my head when DH is gone on business trips.
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Post by raeoflyte on Dec 17, 2013 17:19:00 GMT -5
Make it obvious you're home. Keep a couple lights on, if the TV is near a window leave that on at night too so the changing lights go through the curtains. If anyone has a 3rd car ask if they'll park it in yourdriveway. Make it obvious you have a dog, especially if its a big one. Leave/put a few strategically placed dog poop piles-assuming it is a big dog-(gross, but I swear a cop told my husband this), buy a big dog dish for water.
Basically everything that makes your house look like more trouble than its worth.
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Dec 17, 2013 18:03:33 GMT -5
...:::"A barker with a mean bark, hopefully.":::...
I heard a police officer say that little yappy dogs present an equal if not larger (ironically) problem for burglars than big dogs; as their barks will raise a ruckus and attract attention.
In either case, I suppose it depends just on how barky the dog is. If the dog barks constantly, then people will tune it out no matter how big it is.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2013 18:23:05 GMT -5
ok, am I missing something here? how did we go from garbage missing to preparing yourself for an intruder?
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Post by milee on Dec 17, 2013 18:45:15 GMT -5
ok, am I missing something here? how did we go from garbage missing to preparing yourself for an intruder? No joke. Way to calm down the freakout, guys.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 17, 2013 18:53:58 GMT -5
Buy a discreet outdoor camera (with night vision) and aim it wherever the garbage cans are placed on the eve of trash pickup day.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 17, 2013 19:05:20 GMT -5
You might want to consider a fake TV burglar deterrent. It simulates the light given off by 40 inch LCD HDTV. The lighting changes as if the scenes on a TV were changing. It's a little thing. Use it at night after you go to bed or when you are out. Place it in a room facing the street. Plug it into an outlet. It uses about as much electricity as a night light. I bought mine from Amazon.
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Post by raeoflyte on Dec 17, 2013 19:43:26 GMT -5
ok, am I missing something here? how did we go from garbage missing to preparing yourself for an intruder? No joke. Way to calm down the freakout, guys.
I think its better to be able to do something. I live in a high traffic, not great area. I sleep better knowing my house doesn't look like an easy mark, and its not because I do anything that is expensive or difficult. Sent from my Droid using proboards
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Post by Sam_2.0 on Dec 17, 2013 20:18:20 GMT -5
ok, am I missing something here? how did we go from garbage missing to preparing yourself for an intruder? No joke. Way to calm down the freakout, guys.
I am guessing both of you probably live in parts of town where these thoughts don't cross your mind daily. I would be scared out of my mind if that happened here and would be finding a way to not stay home alone. Then again, my sister was watched through her window & the guy broke in her house to come after her just a couple blocks from where I live now. So past experiences really affect how I would react.
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Post by milee on Dec 17, 2013 22:45:58 GMT -5
Rae and Sam,
If she lives in an area that is that unsafe, she should already have good locks, etc. The area has not changed in the past day or two, only the odd fact that someone may have taken her garbage. There is no indication that she has a stalker or that someone is targeting her.
So bottom line, I don't think it's wise to take any unnecessary risks, but standard safety precautions should be OK. There just isn't enough info to justify the level of freakout that's being drummed up when people recommend she arm herself or be scared out of her mind simply because the garbage disappeared.
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Post by moneymaven on Dec 18, 2013 9:59:24 GMT -5
Wrongside- was everything ok when you got home last night? Any word about that van?
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Post by moneymaven on Dec 18, 2013 10:00:17 GMT -5
Rae and Sam,
If she lives in an area that is that unsafe, she should already have good locks, etc. The area has not changed in the past day or two, only the odd fact that someone may have taken her garbage. There is no indication that she has a stalker or that someone is targeting her.
So bottom line, I don't think it's wise to take any unnecessary risks, but standard safety precautions should be OK. There just isn't enough info to justify the level of freakout that's being drummed up when people recommend she arm herself or be scared out of her mind simply because the garbage disappeared.
False... Read back about her kids friends mom who is out for her and lives in their neighborhood.
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Post by milee on Dec 18, 2013 11:04:12 GMT -5
Are you kidding? Please show me the information that leads you to believe she needs to arm herself and be prepared for a home invasion.
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swamp
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Post by swamp on Dec 18, 2013 11:25:08 GMT -5
Rae and Sam,
If she lives in an area that is that unsafe, she should already have good locks, etc. The area has not changed in the past day or two, only the odd fact that someone may have taken her garbage. There is no indication that she has a stalker or that someone is targeting her.
So bottom line, I don't think it's wise to take any unnecessary risks, but standard safety precautions should be OK. There just isn't enough info to justify the level of freakout that's being drummed up when people recommend she arm herself or be scared out of her mind simply because the garbage disappeared.
False... Read back about her kids friends mom who is out for her and lives in their neighborhood. Out to get her? Isn't that a bit of a stretch?
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Post by swamp on Dec 18, 2013 11:27:24 GMT -5
I'm going to have to agree with milee here. The amount of freak out over this is excessive. I actually deal with criminals every day, and unless someone is a violent sociopath, most violence is between people with a personal relationship. Random violence, while it makes great headlines and scares the bejeezus out of people, really isn't the norm.
Most burglars just want in and out as quick as possible to get their stuff. They don't want a confrontation.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2013 11:30:25 GMT -5
I'm going to have to agree with milee here. The amount of freak out over this is excessive. I actually deal with criminals every day, and unless someone is a violent sociopath, most violence is between people with a personal relationship. Random violence, while it makes great headlines and scares the bejeezus out of people, really isn't the norm.
Most burglars just want in and out as quick as possible to get their stuff. They don't want a confrontation.
What about the story that Kent has been relaying over the last months. We seem to have our fair share of contact with crazies on this board.
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Post by swamp on Dec 18, 2013 11:33:37 GMT -5
I'm going to have to agree with milee here. The amount of freak out over this is excessive. I actually deal with criminals every day, and unless someone is a violent sociopath, most violence is between people with a personal relationship. Random violence, while it makes great headlines and scares the bejeezus out of people, really isn't the norm.
Most burglars just want in and out as quick as possible to get their stuff. They don't want a confrontation.
What about the story that Kent has been relaying over the last months.
We seem to have our fair share of contact with crazies on this board. Personal relationship, not random violence.
I also think there is more to it that Kent knows.
One thing I found when I was prosecuting is that "victims" aren't always the victim, aren't always truthful, and don't disclose their role in an event.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2013 11:34:47 GMT -5
What about the story that Kent has been relaying over the last months.
We seem to have our fair share of contact with crazies on this board. Personal relationship, not random violence.
Which is what some people think in this case. That the shitty mom of her son's friend is stalking her.
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Post by swamp on Dec 18, 2013 11:36:21 GMT -5
Personal relationship, not random violence.
Which is what some people think in this case. That the shitty mom of her son's friend is stalking her. Or some random person stole her garbage. Let's have some proof she did this before we crucify her?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2013 11:38:17 GMT -5
Which is what some people think in this case. That the shitty mom of her son's friend is stalking her. Or some random person stole her garbage. Let's have some proof she did this before we crucify her?
No. Proof is overrated. mob rule rules.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2013 11:46:47 GMT -5
I find it really hard to believe that Jordan's family would do something like steal my garbage, but.... another weird thing happened yesterday evening. I always work on Tuesdays and Thursdays and on those days dh drops the kids off at my parents house when he goes to work. My parents live nearby and Jordan will go over there if he wants to play on a Tuesday or Thursday. So, yesterday was Tuesday, and even though my car wasn't there and dh's car wasn't there and there was a strange truck parked in the driveway, Jordan came knocking on the door in the evening. My nephew answered the door and Jordon asked about my kids and my nephew said they weren't home. Jordan asked "who are you?" and my nephew said (I don't know why he said this to a little kid) "I'm the guy that watches the house.". I'm wondering if Jordan's parents sent him over to my house to find out why there was a suddenly a truck in the driveway at a time when the house is normally empty. The next time I see Jordan I'm going to ask him why he came over on a day that he knew the kids were at my parents house. DId Jordan end up at your parents after her left your house last night?
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