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Post by broncoballer32 on Dec 11, 2013 15:01:31 GMT -5
Given Mom and the boy were the only ones interviewed for the story, i.e. not the little girl and one of her parents, I think odds are the Mom of the little boy stupidly went to the media not realizing the label of sexual harassment could have remained internal to that school only if they corrected the behavior and now its public knowledge. My guess is she thinks everyone will be on her side, but the fact that kids in the classroom supposedly told the teacher in charge, maybe the boy and his Mom might be the only ones really OK with his behavior. Even if the little girl is OK with it, it is not proper behavior for little kids in the classroom. How many folks think this would have been tolerated at a Catholic school or any religious-based school? Even if the little girl is ok blah blah blah blah. Here we are folks. The reasons why someone with toy lego gun the size of nickel is suspended. Why a 5 year old girl TALKING about her hello kitty bubble gun was suspended (cause according to the teacher the little girl was talking about suicide), is because of this. It is about as innocent of a thing as you can get. It is most likely that the reason we did not hear from the parents of the girl is because they did not want the girl exposed to news reporters etc. That is a very distinct possibility. Give me a damn break. How in the heck do people get to thinking at such a myopic level like you and people like is beyond insane.
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Post by Opti on Dec 11, 2013 15:31:58 GMT -5
"How in the heck do people get to thinking at such a myopic level like you "
You started the thread...
You assume its innocent because you don't know how often its been happening and he's only a six year old. Its bad behavior in the classroom. In the past it wouldn't have been labeled as sexual harrassment, but it still wouldn't have been tolerated in most public and private schools.
I don't see what's so controversial about that?
One thing you should have noticed is the girl or her parents were not interviewed. Odds are pretty high the Mom of the boy did tell the reporter who they were but they declined a chance at an interview. If they were pro- he's just an innocent boy like you they probably would have agreed to be interviewed. I don't know what they are thinking and neither of us know how often this has been happening. We only know its happened at least one other time so I'm not sure how innocent one can be when you are told to not do something and you do it again.
This IMO is not the most innocent thing you can get. But then I'm a woman and I'm not going to see it in a rose colored haze like you might.
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Post by broncoballer32 on Dec 11, 2013 15:53:05 GMT -5
"How in the heck do people get to thinking at such a myopic level like you " You started the thread... You assume its innocent because you don't know how often its been happening and he's only a six year old. Its bad behavior in the classroom. In the past it wouldn't have been labeled as sexual harrassment, but it still wouldn't have been tolerated in most public and private schools. I don't see what's so controversial about that? One thing you should have noticed is the girl or her parents were not interviewed. Odds are pretty high the Mom of the boy did tell the reporter who they were but they declined a chance at an interview. If they were pro- he's just an innocent boy like you they probably would have agreed to be interviewed. I don't know what they are thinking and neither of us know how often this has been happening. We only know its happened at least one other time so I'm not sure how innocent one can be when you are told to not do something and you do it again. This IMO is not the most innocent thing you can get. But then I'm a woman and I'm not going to see it in a rose colored haze like you might. I stated why they probably did not go in front of the media. My explanation is as valid as anything that you are seculating about. What would not have been tolerated? A kiss on the hand or cheek? Your attempt at making this into something it is not, certainly has not worked on me. Carry on with that overly sensitive politically correct society. What a world.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Dec 11, 2013 17:06:50 GMT -5
Replaced kissed with hit, and nobody would care about this story. They're both the same thing. The kid isn't keeping his hands and lips to himself, has been in trouble about it before, and the other kids are complaining about it. I don't care whether he's just trying to be nice, or if he's the creepiest damn budding sexual predator in the world, when you're told to keep your hands to yourself you damn well better do it, and if you don't you'll be punished.
Has been going on for ages.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2013 17:08:31 GMT -5
Another "tantrum in a teapot" topic?
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Post by mmhmm on Dec 11, 2013 17:26:08 GMT -5
The posters here are myopic? Oh, puhleeze! We're not the ones who are concentrated on a sexual predator "record" for a 6-year-old. What record? Where? Give me a break!
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Post by broncoballer32 on Dec 11, 2013 17:28:34 GMT -5
Replaced kissed with hit, and nobody would care about this story. They're both the same thing. The kid isn't keeping his hands and lips to himself, has been in trouble about it before, and the other kids are complaining about it. I don't care whether he's just trying to be nice, or if he's the creepiest damn budding sexual predator in the world, when you're told to keep your hands to yourself you damn well better do it, and if you don't you'll be punished. Has been going on for ages. Replace kiss with hit? To you that is the same thing? I cannot believe how the left thinks. Yeah, the left. Unless this is just all an amazing coincidence, that all of the lefties see why this 6 year old may have a suspension for kissing a girl on the hand. Carry on with the politically correct absurdity.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Dec 11, 2013 17:31:36 GMT -5
If a stranger is touching me after I've told them to stop it's assault. Period. Whether they caress me, poke me, slug me in the jaw, the contact itself doesn't matter. As an adult unwelcome touching is assault. Period. The same rules should apply to kids, with a lot more understanding that they're young and just learning, so the penalties are going to be far less severe.
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 11, 2013 17:39:28 GMT -5
These are school rules. They are even followed now in pre K. It isn't this kids first time being told to knock it off. Just because mom doesn't enforce rules or proper behavior doesn't mean the kid gets a pass.
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Post by mmhmm on Dec 11, 2013 17:50:33 GMT -5
Replaced kissed with hit, and nobody would care about this story. They're both the same thing. The kid isn't keeping his hands and lips to himself, has been in trouble about it before, and the other kids are complaining about it. I don't care whether he's just trying to be nice, or if he's the creepiest damn budding sexual predator in the world, when you're told to keep your hands to yourself you damn well better do it, and if you don't you'll be punished. Has been going on for ages. Replace kiss with hit? To you that is the same thing? I cannot believe how the left thinks. Yeah, the left. Unless this is just all an amazing coincidence, that all of the lefties see why this 6 year old may have a suspension for kissing a girl on the hand. Carry on with the politically correct absurdity. What "lefties"? Are you going to tell me you know the stance of all the posters who have posted in this thread, broncoballer? I think not! Frankly, I don't think he was suspended for "kissing a girl on the hand". I think that was just the latest in an ongoing series of misbehaviors and attempted corrections. His mother as much as said so. The kid has behavior problems. The school had enough and has suspended him. Makes good sense to me.
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 12, 2013 6:50:07 GMT -5
I'm amazed the school actually did it.
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 12, 2013 7:03:26 GMT -5
Btw, it's a school record and won't even follow him to middle school. DD for suspended for not taking shit from a bully and it didn't follow her to middle school. Had the teacher in charge been watching instead of reading a magazine, she wouldn't have even gotten suspended.
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 12, 2013 7:03:48 GMT -5
Got suspended. Spell check, leave me alone.
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Post by workpublic on Dec 12, 2013 9:07:01 GMT -5
Carry on with the politically correct absurdity. more defensive and disbelief and benefit of the doubt for the lying lesbian than a six year "sexual harasser"
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Dec 12, 2013 17:30:38 GMT -5
Or wouldn't have, if mom hadn't called a reporter. Now that shit will follow him forever.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2013 17:43:19 GMT -5
Carry on with the politically correct absurdity. more defensive and disbelief and benefit of the doubt for the lying lesbian than a six year "sexual harasser" It's not about being politically correct. As cute as the kid is, he has been reprimanded many times for not following instructions and causing disruptions in school. Including doing this exact thing before when he has been told not to. This is not a case of a good kid getting suspended out of the blue.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2013 17:52:54 GMT -5
Or wouldn't have, if mom hadn't called a reporter. Now that shit will follow him forever. Exactly, it is quite likely that mom did more damage than good. The "school record" is one thing, being able to type in this boys name on the internet and have it come up with SEX OFFENDER is forever.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Dec 12, 2013 18:01:05 GMT -5
UPDATE: news.yahoo.com/boy-girl-kiss-suspension-144115689.htmlSchool drops claim, lets the boy return to school. If you don't think that exposing stupidity has any value beyond entertainment- don't think that. Keep watch, keep up the pressure whenever and wherever you see the kooks in action.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 12, 2013 18:14:23 GMT -5
UPDATE: news.yahoo.com/boy-girl-kiss-suspension-144115689.htmlSchool drops claim, lets the boy return to school. If you don't think that exposing stupidity has any value beyond entertainment- don't think that. Keep watch, keep up the pressure whenever and wherever you see the kooks in action. Yea. Now it is just a another misconduct charge on his school record.
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Post by Opti on Dec 12, 2013 18:18:22 GMT -5
But the mother of the girl, Jade Masters-Ownbey, said that Hunter had tried to kiss her daughter "over and over" without her permission, and that she supported the suspension. "Not once, but over and over," Masters-Ownbey wrote on Facebook. "Not with her permission but sneaking up on her." "I've had to coach her about what to do when you don't want someone touching you," she told the Canon City Daily Record. "But they won't stop." nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/20297961/school-drops-sexual-harassment-claim-against-6-year-old-who-kissed-girl/Yes media or other pressure has caused the school to not call it sexual harassment although if the above is true it seems the label was correct the first time. Too bad the boy's Mom couldn't figure out how to skip fully explaining sexual harrassment and just tell her child that includes touching people when they don't want to be touched and to stop it. But yeah I guess its more important to not let the official label stick just on paperwork and have it spread over the internet. I used to think conservatives didn't like whiny parents that enabled kids bad behavior.
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 12, 2013 18:20:16 GMT -5
I don't think the school was wrong and this sends a very bad message that rules don't apply to all children if they have bad parents who make a stink instead of correcting their children.
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Post by mmhmm on Dec 12, 2013 18:27:39 GMT -5
I don't think the school was wrong and this sends a very bad message that rules don't apply to all children if they have bad parents who make a stink instead of correcting their children. I couldn't agree more, zib! Allowing him to go back to school just because mom raised some sand is the wrong message to send to that boy. They can bet there will be more problems from this kid in future, and others will follow suit. Very, very bad decision, IMO. Six-years-old is not too young to learn "If you do the crime, you do the time".
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Post by Opti on Dec 12, 2013 18:28:52 GMT -5
"If you don't think that exposing stupidity has any value beyond entertainment- don't think that. Keep watch, keep up the pressure whenever and wherever you see the kooks in action." Crap. I was hoping to ease off my posting in P&M.
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Post by billisonboard on Dec 12, 2013 18:32:14 GMT -5
I don't think the school was wrong and this sends a very bad message that rules don't apply to all children if they have bad parents who make a stink instead of correcting their children. I couldn't agree more, zib! Allowing him to go back to school just because mom raised some sand is the wrong message to send to that boy. They can bet there will be more problems from this kid in future, and others will follow suit. Very, very bad decision, IMO. Six-years-old is not too young to learn "If you do the crime, you do the time". The problem is that "time" is with Mom. Maybe in-school suspension would be better for the kid in the long run.
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Post by mmhmm on Dec 12, 2013 18:34:34 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more, zib! Allowing him to go back to school just because mom raised some sand is the wrong message to send to that boy. They can bet there will be more problems from this kid in future, and others will follow suit. Very, very bad decision, IMO. Six-years-old is not too young to learn "If you do the crime, you do the time". The problem is that "time" is with Mom. Maybe in-school suspension would be better for the kid in the long run. I'd have no problem with that option, billis. He'd probably do better and learn more that way.
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Post by billisonboard on Dec 12, 2013 18:41:38 GMT -5
It takes a long time to reestablish reasonable behavior in kids with behavior disorders after any extended period of time in their dysfunctional home environments. Hell, a weekend was bad enough. Forget the holidays.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 12, 2013 19:01:20 GMT -5
But the mother of the girl, Jade Masters-Ownbey, said that Hunter had tried to kiss her daughter "over and over" without her permission, and that she supported the suspension. "Not once, but over and over," Masters-Ownbey wrote on Facebook. "Not with her permission but sneaking up on her." "I've had to coach her about what to do when you don't want someone touching you," she told the Canon City Daily Record. "But they won't stop." Maybe mom should teach her daughter what women know to do when someone touches them inappropriately: kick the kid in the nuts.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2013 21:48:25 GMT -5
But the mother of the girl, Jade Masters-Ownbey, said that Hunter had tried to kiss her daughter "over and over" without her permission, and that she supported the suspension. "Not once, but over and over," Masters-Ownbey wrote on Facebook. "Not with her permission but sneaking up on her." "I've had to coach her about what to do when you don't want someone touching you," she told the Canon City Daily Record. "But they won't stop." Maybe mom should teach her daughter what women know to do when someone touches them inappropriately: kick the kid in the nuts. X 2
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 12, 2013 22:14:15 GMT -5
Yes, but then the little girl would get in trouble. You can bet the mom of the boy would raise a big stink if someone knocked her little precious's lights out!
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 12, 2013 22:21:47 GMT -5
Yes, but then the little girl would get in trouble. You can bet the mom of the boy would raise a big stink someone knocked her little precious's lights out! Maybe ìf mom had not gone to the media (most probably ìt was her) to complain about the big, bad school, the world would not know her son has behavioral problems, especially with this young girl. Mom will not garner much public sympathy ìf the girl knocks her kid out with one swift kick to his gonads.
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