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Post by NoNamePerson on Sept 23, 2013 6:36:35 GMT -5
What NOBODY has mentioned is that, as I recall, Cancun is an island and WAAAY away from the border & city areas that have experienced the violence. Cancun is not an island. Look at a map of Mexico. Cozumel and Isla Mujeres are islands.
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 23, 2013 7:27:01 GMT -5
Isla mujeres, I had the best time ever there!
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Post by happyscooter on Sept 23, 2013 8:11:58 GMT -5
Loved Cozumel when we docked there a few times on our cruises.
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 23, 2013 8:41:19 GMT -5
That being said, I wouldn't go anywhere in Mexico now, not even the resorts. I think the mom was in the wrong taking their daughter someplace the father felt wasn't safe but I understand the ruling. Pretty soon, the daughter wouldn't be able to go anywhere.
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Post by bean29 on Sept 23, 2013 10:56:03 GMT -5
They don't say if the Mom is from Mexico. DH is from the State of Michoacan from a small town. The nearest large city is Morelia. DH's father is from Jalisco. If you look on the us State Dept web site it says:
Guerrero: Acapulco, Ixtapa, Taxco and Zihuatanejo are major cities/travel destinations in Guerrero - see map to identify their exact locations: You should defer non-essential travel to the northwestern and southern portions of the state (the area west and south of the town of Arcelia on the border with Estado de Mexico in the north and the town of Tlapa near the border with Oaxaca), except for the cities of Acapulco, Zihuatanejo, and Ixtapa. In those cities, you should exercise caution and stay within tourist areas. in
Jalisco: Guadalajara, Puerto Vallarta, and Lake Chapala are major cities/travel destinations in Jalisco - see map to identify their exact locations: You should defer non-essential travel to areas of the state that borders the state of Michoacán. The security situation along the Michoacán and Zacatecas borders continues to be unstable and gun battles between criminal groups and authorities occur. Concerns include roadblocks placed by individuals posing as police or military personnel and recent gun battles between rival TCOs involving automatic weapons. You should exercise caution in rural areas and when using secondary highways, particularly along the northern border of the state.
Quintana Roo: Cancun, Cozumel, Playa del Carmen, Riviera Maya and Tulum are major cities/travel destinations in Quintana Roo - see attached map to identify their exact locations: No advisory is in effect.
I accidentally delted it but it says Morelia is safe but the rural areas are not. It says to avoid the state of Michoacan. As DH was thinking about travelling accross Mexico in a car - I said no. Once we are in Mexico if he convinces my kids to go with him, I will end up going. Thankfully my MIL told him he was nuts. My MIL has friends that travel back and forth to Mexico and return for their Meical treatments if they get sick. She says there is no way she will return to mexico with the substandard Medical care they have there.
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Post by souldoubt on Sept 23, 2013 13:55:34 GMT -5
It isn't Juarez it's Cancun. I've been to PV and Cabo twice in the last so many years and have never had any problems. Like traveling many other places whether it's inside the US or abroad you just have to be aware of your surroundings. Don't walk through dimly lit questionable areas at night and if you have kids you should be back at the hotel if you have even the slightest concern.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Sept 23, 2013 16:21:18 GMT -5
I don't have a lot of experience in Mexico, but I was there about ten years ago. Like anywhere you travel, you have to be careful and try to stick to places that are safe, but overall you should be okay if you do those things.
I wouldn't go into a dark ally in a run down part of town looking for drugs.
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Post by bean29 on Sept 23, 2013 17:10:43 GMT -5
It isn't Juarez it's Cancun. I've been to PV and Cabo twice in the last so many years and have never had any problems. Like traveling many other places whether it's inside the US or abroad you just have to be aware of your surroundings. Don't walk through dimly lit questionable areas at night and if you have kids you should be back at the hotel if you have even the slightest concern. Soul of doubt, my point was that you need to look at the US State dept website if you are concerend. I found it interesting that all the resort areas had warnings to stick to the resorts and warnings about areas to stay away from with the exception of Cancun. When DH and I went to Cancun we left the resort, went to Walmart on a public bus and then visited an open area market where the locals shop. I am sure it would not be considered safe. Maybe the ex husband was being a Dickwad or maybe he knew his ex spouse was going to drag the kid accross unsafe areas. I also find myself very uncomfortable with people talking about drinking and partying in Mexico - if your intent is a cheap place to drink - who is protecting the child? When we went to Cancun the Grandparents were watching our kids.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Sept 23, 2013 17:50:41 GMT -5
It isn't Juarez it's Cancun. I've been to PV and Cabo twice in the last so many years and have never had any problems. Like traveling many other places whether it's inside the US or abroad you just have to be aware of your surroundings. Don't walk through dimly lit questionable areas at night and if you have kids you should be back at the hotel if you have even the slightest concern. Soul of doubt, my point was that you need to look at the US State dept website if you are concerend. I found it interesting that all the resort areas had warnings to stick to the resorts and warnings about areas to stay away from with the exception of Cancun. When DH and I went to Cancun we left the resort, went to Walmart on a public bus and then visited an open area market where the locals shop. I am sure it would not be considered safe. Maybe the ex husband was being a Dickwad or maybe he knew his ex spouse was going to drag the kid accross unsafe areas. I also find myself very uncomfortable with people talking about drinking and partying in Mexico - if your intent is a cheap place to drink - who is protecting the child? When we went to Cancun the Grandparents were watching our kids. Many resorts are very child friendly. When we went a couple years ago, we went with my sister and her 4 kids. No one drank to the point of inebriation and the kids had a ball. There were 4 adults 'protecting' the kids. Not everyone who goes to Mexico drinks themselves silly. And remarkably enough, everyone managed to have a very good time.
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Post by souldoubt on Sept 23, 2013 17:54:39 GMT -5
I really don't know what goes into the US state departments reports but I'm guessing in some cases it's a CYA rating and a lot of it is common sense. I spent a week in Cabo about 8 months ago and we took public transportation from our hotel over 15 miles to get to the marina during the day. There were a ton of US citizens who lived down there taking public transportation and walking around without any issues. Quite a few of the areas discussed have many retirees down there because they have a low cost of living, good health care facilities, speak english and the list goes on. When we went to PV a few years back it was to visit a buddy who spends 8 months out of the year living down there and he's been doing that for 8 years now. This guy is on his own most of the time when he isn't working and has never had an issue because he avoids bad situations.
As far as drinking and partying in Mexico those are a few of the biggest reasons to go along with sight seeing and buying cheaper items. I don't see anywhere that the OP said the wife was going down there to drink and put her kid at risk. People at resorts sit down at pools and eat and drink while there kids are right in front of them but they aren't getting wasted. There's various activities for the kids to do and a lot of staff working. It's like going to a pool in Vegas or any other pool where there's booze and food so it's not just subject to Mexico. I live less than 100 miles from the border and I've been going to Mexico for 13 years back to when we were 18-20 years old and going to Tijuana from 200-2002. I'm not advocating doing that but I've seen the discussions pop up on here over the years and some people seem to think it's all a warzone. When going to resort areas avoid bad situations, don't be wandering around at night and be smart and it's a great time that can be had for pretty cheap. We're planning on going back again soon in offseason (i.e. not summer or holidays) because it's not crowded and there are great deals.
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Post by scarlett81 on Sept 23, 2013 18:20:54 GMT -5
I've been to Cancun and Cabo in the past couple of years. Seemed safe enough to me. Took public transportation, visited ruins, had no issues.
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Post by sarcasticgirl on Sept 24, 2013 13:17:44 GMT -5
It amuses me when people freak the heck out over crime in other countries and claim the entire country is unsafe. Do they watched the news? People are being gunned down left and right in the US. Mass shootings aren't rare events in this country. Does it mean the entire country should be labeled as a unsafe zone for travelers?
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Sept 24, 2013 13:23:28 GMT -5
It amuses me when people freak the heck out over crime in other countries and claim the entire country is unsafe. Do they watched the news? People are being gunned down left and right in the US. Mass shootings aren't rare events in this country. Does it mean the entire country should be labeled as a unsafe zone for travelers? Hell, there was a memorial in downtown Seattle last night, where a couple was stabbed for (what they think) is absolutely no reason other than they happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. Guy died, his g/f lived. Yet no one is saying don't vacation in Seattle, and I'd hazard a guess that it is far more dangerous to be there than Mexico. seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2021826833_doublestabbingxml.html
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Post by sarcasticgirl on Sept 24, 2013 13:26:46 GMT -5
It amuses me when people freak the heck out over crime in other countries and claim the entire country is unsafe. Do they watched the news? People are being gunned down left and right in the US. Mass shootings aren't rare events in this country. Does it mean the entire country should be labeled as a unsafe zone for travelers? Hell, there was a memorial in downtown Seattle last night, where a couple was stabbed for (what they think) is absolutely no reason other than they happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. Guy died, his g/f lived. Yet no one is saying don't vacation in Seattle, and I'd hazard a guess that it is far more dangerous to be there than Mexico. seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2021826833_doublestabbingxml.htmlWhat a tragedy! This certainly wouldn't deter me from visiting again. I live in Chicago... the new murder capitol of the US, yet I can't walk around downtown without fighting my way through throngs of tourists.
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 24, 2013 13:29:29 GMT -5
Are the national guard there, yet?
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Post by sarcasticgirl on Sept 24, 2013 13:32:48 GMT -5
Are the national guard there, yet? Police Superintendent refused the offer... though I wouldn't mind having a hottie national guard escort me around the city
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 24, 2013 13:33:50 GMT -5
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Post by midjd on Sept 24, 2013 14:12:01 GMT -5
Exactly. Yesterday morning two people were stabbed (apparently a random attack) next to the parking garage I park in every day.
Not as sensational as finding heads in duffel bags, but IMO safety is an illusion no matter where you are.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Sept 24, 2013 14:52:40 GMT -5
Exactly. Yesterday morning two people were stabbed (apparently a random attack) next to the parking garage I park in every day. Not as sensational as finding heads in duffel bags, but IMO safety is an illusion no matter where you are. I know I am going to burn in hell for this but that made me laugh out loud.
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