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Post by Opti on Sept 17, 2013 15:33:11 GMT -5
Oh, and mine was the Sport package too. TG, wheel sizes were more reasonable years ago.
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Post by Bob Ross on Sept 17, 2013 15:37:26 GMT -5
Bob are those 19inch wheels? No they were 18''. Tire size was 225/40R18 in front, and 255/35R18 in rear.
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Post by Opti on Sept 17, 2013 15:47:26 GMT -5
The profile is another costly feature. I think mine are 225/45R17. I could have gone with the split sizes but I knew it would be more trouble than it is worth. Anything under profile 50 usually costs more in tire mounting costs because its harder to do correctly. 45 profile only adds moderate cost but depending on the garage, 40 or 35 profile adds a significant cost per tire.
If I knew what I knew now, I might have stuck with OEM 50 profile size even the whatever size that is has roughly half the choices of 225/45R17. My condolences. The lower the profile of the tire usually translates to more expensive tires as well.
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Post by kent on Sept 17, 2013 17:33:53 GMT -5
I wish you two would quit talking about tire and wheel sizes - you're making me run back and forth to the garage over and over to see what the hell my wife's car has!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 20:28:59 GMT -5
I will say that "run-flats" don't run $1600. Costco sells them, and it was more like $800-$900 when DH called for a price quote.
Maybe the posters saying $1600 are either buying them from the dealer or they are snow tires.
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Sept 20, 2013 10:10:46 GMT -5
Something else I thought of is how some of those really extravagant features translate into extremely expensive repairs. For example, don't some models have those "water sensing" wipers? They are activated by sensors embedded within the windshield.
Well there is a lot of roadwork going on near me right now, and a lot of pebbles are being kicked up. A scratch/chip in a normal windshield can be repaired by injecting that stuff in. A BMW rain-sensing windshield will need to be replaced in its entirety, and I believe that is another $2k job.
I can operate my own wipers and headlights, thank you!
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Post by formerroomate99 on Sept 20, 2013 15:11:37 GMT -5
Something else I thought of is how some of those really extravagant features translate into extremely expensive repairs. For example, don't some models have those "water sensing" wipers? They are activated by sensors embedded within the windshield. Well there is a lot of roadwork going on near me right now, and a lot of pebbles are being kicked up. A scratch/chip in a normal windshield can be repaired by injecting that stuff in. A BMW rain-sensing windshield will need to be replaced in its entirety, and I believe that is another $2k job. I can operate my own wipers and headlights, thank you! I feel that way about a lot of the technology on cars today.
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Sept 20, 2013 16:32:42 GMT -5
...:::"I feel that way about a lot of the technology on cars today.":::...
I agree -- and it goes beyond cars. Eventually you can't get a "good old" model without this crap. I can deal with it if there is a workaround. If I tried to repair the windshield the old fashioned way, and that meant I had zero control over the wipers, I'd be an unhappy camper. Same with the headlights. As cool as it is to have the car take care of those types of things, I still want to be able to control them myself.
While I do like the body styling that was introduced with the 2007 generation, I also really liked the styling of the 2000-2006 set. I would seriously consider trying to pick up a 2006 if it meant I could avoid some of these costly "features".
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 21, 2013 11:13:55 GMT -5
I think DS said it best when he said there were some cars you leased and some you buy. BMW and Audi were leases. Acura wasn't.
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Post by kent on Sept 21, 2013 11:27:16 GMT -5
I think DS said it best when he said there were some cars you leased and some you buy. BMW and Audi were leases. Acura wasn't. Hmmmm. I wonder why he feels that way. When we were looking, the Acura TL was priced in the mid 40's much the same as BMW and Audi. The Acura is a very good car (owned one) but the designers ran amuck a few years ago when the head of the design group must have been on vacation - this led to the stupid parrot beak grill that they keep modifying in an effort to gain acceptance. When it comes to tech features, I think they've done a very good job. For instance, the air conditioning system is linked to the GPS system. Result? When the sun is shining on the driver side of the car, it increase flow on that side to compensate. Make a U turn and it switches it to the passenger side. Pretty clever IMO
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 21, 2013 11:30:12 GMT -5
Resale and repair costs.
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Post by seriousthistime on Sept 21, 2013 12:05:41 GMT -5
While I do not drive a BMW, several of the BMW owners I have known over the years were not happy with the amount of maintenance that BMW's take nor with the cost of the maintenance. The amount and cost of the maintenance caused some BMW owners to get rid of the BMW in favor of more pedestrian vehicles. For people who really enjoy the handling and performance of a sporty car, the cost and hassle of maintaining a BMW is worth it. (If you're reading reviews on car enthusiast web sites, you're reading the opinions of folks who have already decided that the cost and hassle are not a problem. That group is far from a balanced information source.) For others, they might want to look into what it takes to keep a BMW on the road. I've had three BMWs in my lifetime, and the repairs and maintenance are killers. Sure they have a warranty, but it's what happens when the warranty runs out that is the real eye opener. I agree with tskeeter that for people who don't care about the frequency or cost of repairs (which for me included things like the gas tank crumpling in on itself so eventually it could hold about a teaspoon of gas, a transmission that needed to be replaced right after the warranty expired, multiple clutch replacements, repeatedly replacing water pumps, and so on), I'm sure they find the drive worth it. I don't like being derailed by expensive car repairs and would never get another BMW, or any German car for that matter (had my share of VWs too).
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 21, 2013 20:50:41 GMT -5
The German cars are well made but very expensive to repair. Add to that premium gas and hoo boy!
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