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Post by b2r on Feb 16, 2011 15:39:28 GMT -5
Nir Rosen trashes Lara Logan, dismisses her sexual assaultLeft-wing journalist Nir Rosen joked today about the sexual assault of CBS News’ chief foreign correspondent Lara Logan. Logan was assaulted on Friday during celebrations in Cairo that followed Hosni Mubarak’s resignation. The initial tweet by Rosen stated, “Lara Logan had to outdo Anderson. Where was her buddy McCrystal.” From this tweet he went further, writing that he would have been amused if Anderson Cooper had also been sexually assaulted. “Yes yes its wrong what happened to her. Of course. I don’t support that. But, it would have been funny if it happened to Anderson too,” wrote Rosen Read more: dailycaller.com/2011/02/15/nir-rosen-trashes-lara-logan-dismisses-her-sexual-assault/#ixzz1E9jyhzs4
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2011 15:42:15 GMT -5
disgusting people defending disgusting ideals
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Post by burnsattornincan on Feb 16, 2011 15:49:15 GMT -5
I spent nearly 20 years co-existing with devout Muslims. Never had an ounce of trouble.
What is the saying... keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
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Post by marjar on Feb 16, 2011 16:38:46 GMT -5
Damn! I spent nearly 20 years co-existing with devout Muslims could it be cause they are the minority in your area? ;D I do wish you had more time to post, mmhhmm.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 16, 2011 17:36:21 GMT -5
Damn! I spent nearly 20 years co-existing with devout Muslims could it be cause they are the minority in your area? workpublic-I do believe mmhmm resided in Saudi Arabia for an extended time period. mmhmm will correct me if I am wrong but I don't believe I am.
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 16, 2011 17:41:12 GMT -5
I lived in Iran, Saudi Arabia and Indonesia, Tennesseer. All are Islamic countries. I'm pretty familiar with the people, and their customs, and still keep in touch with friends from those countries, from time to time.
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Post by reasonfreedom on Feb 16, 2011 17:45:26 GMT -5
was it wise for a blonde haired blue eye women and the company she works for to put herself in that crowd? do journalists actually believe the hype about "journalists" being some kind protected moral super heros? I agree with this. I completely think the act was wrong and vulgar, but I don't think it is very intelligent to be around a fired up mob like that period. I don't care if it is your job, it being your job does not give it the right to override common sense.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 16, 2011 17:45:40 GMT -5
So mmhmm-I assume the muslims were the minority in those areas?
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 16, 2011 17:48:49 GMT -5
I'm working on the time thing, marjar. I've been busy at lots of things, and mother being home has taken up some of my time. She's got rehab nurses coming out twice a week, and I've got to help with her exercises when they're not here. In addition, I'm doing a deep spring cleaning in the house, so have all sorts of projects half-finished.
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 16, 2011 17:50:01 GMT -5
Heh. Hardly, Tennesseer. Indonesia was my first venture into a place where I was the minority. Turned out great. Really enjoyed our time there and met a lot of great people!
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 16, 2011 17:51:43 GMT -5
BBL, I hope. Need to start dinner.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 16, 2011 17:53:15 GMT -5
was it wise for a blonde haired blue eye women and the company she works for to put herself in that crowd? do journalists actually believe the hype about "journalists" being some kind protected moral super heros? I agree with this. I completely think the act was wrong and vulgar, but I don't think it is very intelligent to be around a fired up mob like that period. I don't care if it is your job, it being your job does not give it the right to override common sense. Soldiers and police officers get shot and sometimes killed doing their job. Fire fighters get burned, sometimes to death, doing their job. Common sense would suggest that they not go into some of the situations they do. I have read nothing to suggest that she did not fully understand and accept the risk that she was taking in doing her job.
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 16, 2011 17:57:57 GMT -5
Nor, have I, Bill. I believe the reporters know they face danger in some situations. It's their job, and they do it just as, hopefully, the rest of us do our jobs, whatever they might be.
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 16, 2011 18:07:50 GMT -5
Got it! So a reporter, especially a blonde-haired, blue-eyed female reporter, should fully expect to be raped and beaten in the Middle East while trying to do her job. Thanks for explaining this to me, liberals! I was wondering how long it would take for one of you to pull the "she was asking for it" routine. I'm only surprised it took 70+ posts to get there...
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Post by reasonfreedom on Feb 16, 2011 18:16:47 GMT -5
I agree with this. I completely think the act was wrong and vulgar, but I don't think it is very intelligent to be around a fired up mob like that period. I don't care if it is your job, it being your job does not give it the right to override common sense. Soldiers and police officers get shot and sometimes killed doing their job. Fire fighters get burned, sometimes to death, doing their job. Common sense would suggest that they not go into some of the situations they do. I have read nothing to suggest that she did not fully understand and accept the risk that she was taking in doing her job. Oh, I wasn't aware that reporters had to go bootcamp/self-defense training school to report the news. I mean seriously you are comparing reporters to police/soldiers in that situation?
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 16, 2011 18:17:53 GMT -5
A part of my job is, at times, to give people the opportunity to put themselves up on high cables which I have strung between trees. At times I am asked to guarantee that it is totally safe. I tell them, "I have read of people who have slipped on a bedside rug getting out of bed, fell, and died from hitting their head on a night stand. I have read of people who have been killed in their bed when something crashed into their house. So you can get killed getting out of bed and killed staying in bed. Now, what exactly do you want me to guarantee to be totally safe?"
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Post by privateinvestor on Feb 16, 2011 18:19:49 GMT -5
Lara Logan has reunited with her family. . . The CBS News correspondent was discharged from an undisclosed hospital Tuesday at about 5 p.m. and is now recuperating at her Washington, D.C.-area home after suffering "a brutal and sustained sexual assault" at the hands of a mob last Friday while covering the revolution in Egypt. More from E!: 60 Minutes Correspondent Lara Logan attacked ABC News was the first to report her release, while the Daily Beast quoted sources as saying the 39-year-old reporter is in "remarkably good spirits" despite her nightmare and is now resting at her residence, with husband Joseph Burkett and their two children. Slate: CBS went public on Logan under pressure Logan was working on a story for "60 Minutes" on the celebrations in Cairo's Tahrir Square following the resignation of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak when, per a statement from CBS News, she was set upon by a "mob of more than 200 people whipped into frenzy." After becoming separated from her crew and security team, the network said Logan was surrounded, assaulted and beaten before a group of women. She was ultimately rescued by Egyptian soldiers, who escorted her and her crew back to their hotel. Logan was put on the first flight out the next morning for the States where she checked into the hospital. Story: NYU fellow quits after tweets about Logan assault A person familiar with the matter told the Wall Street Journal that the ordeal, which lasted roughly 20- to 30-minutes, "was not a rape." today.msnbc.msn.com/id/41625503/ns/today-entertainment/?GT1=43001
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 16, 2011 18:22:07 GMT -5
reason, these people are doing their jobs. They're not stupid. They know what their jobs are, and they know when those jobs may lead them into danger. Still, they do their jobs, as we all are expected to do. It's not up to you, or me, to judge them for doing their jobs, other than to give them kudos for their efforts, and to have compassion when those efforts result in injury, or death.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 16, 2011 18:22:40 GMT -5
Soldiers and police officers get shot and sometimes killed doing their job. Fire fighters get burned, sometimes to death, doing their job. Common sense would suggest that they not go into some of the situations they do. I have read nothing to suggest that she did not fully understand and accept the risk that she was taking in doing her job. Oh, I wasn't aware that reporters had to go bootcamp/self-defense training school to report the news. I mean seriously you are comparing reporters to police/soldiers in that situation? Yes, I am seriously comparing. If I were a reporter accepting assignments in volatile areas, I would certainly take self-defense training. I would also understand that it might not be sufficient for my personal safety and decide to take the chance or not. Free choice of individuals.
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 16, 2011 18:25:01 GMT -5
Kudos, too, to the soldiers who waded into that crowd to come to her rescue!
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 16, 2011 18:29:06 GMT -5
Most times humans learn from mistakes.
For example: Boston's Coconut Grove nightclub fire of 1942 (killing 492 people) led to fire code reforms and safety standards across the country. On the night of the fire more than 1,000 people were in the nightclub while its official capacity was 460 people.
The Coconut Grove nightclub had two street front revolving doors for entrance and exist of patrons. Due to the pile up of patrons at the revolving doors during the fire, hundreds were unable to flee the nightclub. The official investigation stated more than 300 lives could have been saved if the revolving front doors had had two flanking doors that opened out to the streets. Additionally, side doors were bolted shut so patrons could not sneak out the back door and not pay their bills. Other doors within the nightclub opened inward and not outward. This too caused pile ups of at the doors.
Many new fire codes and safety standards were instituted as a result of this fire.
Maybe it is time for news networks to train their reporters and other employees to recognize a hostile situation and to teach them how to escape such situations. That may or may not be occurring now. But no news story is worth being harmed or killed over.
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 16, 2011 18:34:51 GMT -5
Did you catch the part in the story about a mob of 200+ people in a frenzy? And way to blame the victim, by the way. I'm sure the fact that she's American, white and probably Christian makes it so much easier for you, but really? Really?
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Feb 16, 2011 18:36:42 GMT -5
<<< Did you catch the part in the story about a mob of 200+ people in a frenzy? >>> ...exactly... ...so why are we tit-for-tatting about this again?
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Post by reasonfreedom on Feb 16, 2011 18:40:56 GMT -5
reason, these people are doing their jobs. They're not stupid. They know what their jobs are, and they know when those jobs may lead them into danger. Still, they do their jobs, as we all are expected to do. It's not up to you, or me, to judge them for doing their jobs, other than to give them kudos for their efforts, and to have compassion when those efforts result in injury, or death. I wasn't judging her for doing her job, just was judging her on her common sense that is all. Actually as a reporter she created a huge story, so she was quite efficient at her job.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2011 18:45:03 GMT -5
They said she was not raped?? Anyone heard HER story yet?
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Post by reasonfreedom on Feb 16, 2011 18:45:17 GMT -5
Oh, I wasn't aware that reporters had to go bootcamp/self-defense training school to report the news. I mean seriously you are comparing reporters to police/soldiers in that situation? Yes, I am seriously comparing. If I were a reporter accepting assignments in volatile areas, I would certainly take self-defense training. I would also understand that it might not be sufficient for my personal safety and decide to take the chance or not. Free choice of individuals. I guess your are right, maybe she sees a dangerous situation and just likes the excitement/pain/suffering that could come from it. I agree with out a doubt that it is her choice to do that, to me it just lacks common sense.
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Post by hello fromWarsaw on Feb 16, 2011 18:46:04 GMT -5
She was raped by Mubarak thugs DUH, and things will improve, thx to Obama and democracy. Pubs would have set the dictator free to kill DUH! TYVM
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 16, 2011 18:47:48 GMT -5
Thank God he's on your side, libs...LOL!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2011 18:49:16 GMT -5
WAR!! Well, here you are.. Good to see you. We are sure to have some fun debates. Glad you made it over.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 16, 2011 18:49:19 GMT -5
Got it! So a reporter, especially a blonde-haired, blue-eyed female reporter, should fully expect to be raped and beaten in the Middle East while trying to do her job. Thanks for explaining this to me, liberals! I was wondering how long it would take for one of you to pull the "she was asking for it" routine. I'm only surprised it took 70+ posts to get there... Ed-It was workpublic who brought up the blond haired blue eyed statement. I think workpublic is one of yours and not a liberal.
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