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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 12:59:26 GMT -5
Ok, just out of curiosity, I have a bottle of something labeled as OxyCod/apap 5-325mg. Are you saying those a worth 100/ea? Holy cr@pola! Oxycodone 325 mg. It's the oxycontin 80's that are the big money, but you'd get at least $75 a pill here for those. OxyCod/apap 5-325mg is only 5 mgs of Oxy, I think. The 325 is tylenol. So compared to oxy 80, which is 80 mgs of oxy, without the sucky tylenol, I would think the price would be much less.
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Post by swamp on Aug 23, 2013 13:03:29 GMT -5
it's oxy. people are stupid. they will pay.
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Post by milee on Aug 23, 2013 13:03:45 GMT -5
You would be surpised at who would buy them. My mom had an aunt that got busted for selling pain pills. She was in her 70s. I doubt she was selling to the youngsters on the street corner. But I'm guessing the reason that the aunt was busted is that she didn't really know how/who to sell the pills. If she had a good connection, she would have gotten her cash and moved on with her life, not gotten arrested.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 13:06:11 GMT -5
it's oxy. people are stupid. they will pay. ha!
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Post by swamp on Aug 23, 2013 13:06:45 GMT -5
Bingo. She was easy pickings.
Here's how it works. Drug addicted idiot gets arrested for something stupid. He "works his charges off" by doing some controlled buys. He buys from other drug addicted idiots. They get arrested. Some of them "work their charges off." Guys up on the food chain know who has been arrested and doesn't sell to the ones who are obviously working their charges off.
Once in a while the cops can get one to flip and cut a deal to get a higher up, but it takes some work.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 13:08:15 GMT -5
it's oxy. people are stupid. they will pay. ha! New Topics
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Post by alabamagal on Aug 23, 2013 13:12:31 GMT -5
You would be surpised at who would buy them. My mom had an aunt that got busted for selling pain pills. She was in her 70s. I doubt she was selling to the youngsters on the street corner. Did she do it once, or was this a regular thing? We don't know the whole story. She was missing at the yearly family reunion and no one said anything. One person mentioned something very cryptic about the aunt, so my mom googled her name and confirmed she was arrested and convicted.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Aug 23, 2013 13:14:07 GMT -5
OK, I'm not afraid to admit I'm old and out of touch. So how much do the pain pills go for on the street? depends on what it is. The Oxys go for about $100 a pill. Percocet goes for about $15. Suboxone about $75 a pill. Ritalin about $25, but that's because it's plentiful. Fentanyl patches, about $200. Depends on the strength and what it is. ETA: That's the northern NY market. Prices vary among region and availability. Oxycodone 5/325 are percocets. In KY, I think I read that oxy goes for $10/mg. I have about $9000 in one bottle! After has happened to me in the past, mine aren't up or sale.
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Post by swamp on Aug 23, 2013 13:14:48 GMT -5
There was a guy in this area who was killed by some guys stealing the pain pills that he was selling. He was in his 80's.
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Post by Bob Ross on Aug 23, 2013 13:17:45 GMT -5
You should threaten to cut them. That's what I do when my back alley "pharmacy" shorts me.
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Post by imawino on Aug 23, 2013 16:10:01 GMT -5
I have a very old bottle of Oxy's somewhere at home, I'm going to have to check out their strength. Any takers?? Not Bob! He'll cut me.
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Post by shanendoah on Aug 23, 2013 16:24:12 GMT -5
Throwing out Rx pills was a big enough issue here that most pharmacies I know of now have old pill recycling bins. When MIL died, we just took all of her pill bottles into a pharmacy and dumped them in the secure recycling bin. We do tend to hold on to excess pain or muscle relaxers in case of a replapse.
I've also built up a small safety stock of my anti-virals in case I get an outbreak over a weekend or for when the doctor's office gets pissy that I said I was having a shingles outbreak (severe form) instead of a herpes simplex II outbreak (minor form), and therefore require me to see someone before they'll give the Rx. It annoys me that they care what I call it since the treatment for both is IDENTICAL. Same number of doses and dose strength, etc.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Aug 23, 2013 16:49:27 GMT -5
I've never seen the recycling bins at my pharmacies. <br><br>The DEA does a big take back event all around the country but they've already held the 2013 event. <br><br>I think some pharmacies take them back or provide you with envelopes to mail them somewhere for recycling. Some local police departments all do pill take backs. <br><br>Or the current recommended advice is to mix them with either kitty litter or coffee grounds and put them in the trash. They should not be flushed. <br><br>imawino you could have a nice vacation if it's the old oxy before they made them abuse resistant. <br><br>A lot of people on Medicaid get a nice bottle of oxy or whatever for $2-3/bottle and sell it and that is their spending money for the month. Of course you need the right connections.
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Post by Cookies Galore on Aug 23, 2013 17:28:52 GMT -5
I never liked oxycodone for pain, but man, hydrocodone gives me a smooth buzz! Too bad it's been about six years since I've had anything painful happen.
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Post by Nazgul Girl on Aug 24, 2013 11:08:54 GMT -5
Actually, if they are underfilling a script, that's a pharmacological error, and you could report them to the state pharmacy board. This, especially if it's a controlled substance, is a serious issue. It could mean that the pharmacy just made a simple but serious mistake, which was what evidently happened in this case, an employee is pocketing the constrolled substance, or that the pharmacy is just plain cheating the customer.
Under all three scenarios, it's a serious problem, and they need to get their damned butts in gear or they could get investigated and potentially have their licenses suspended for awhile.
I'm glad you fought for it and got your correct fill.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Aug 24, 2013 12:19:09 GMT -5
In my experience, narcotics in particular are counted twice. More than once I have dropped off a prescription, gone back for it to find that they had not done the second count on it yet.
Shorting someone by half should be a glaring error. I know that when I get my prescriptions, I have a good idea how far up the bottle they should go. Anyone handling prescriptions should have flagged this immediately as they handle far more than I do. It is one thing to be shorted a pill or two, but 30?
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Post by Mardi Gras Audrey on Aug 24, 2013 21:02:37 GMT -5
As someone who has worked in a pharmacy, I can tell you that the odds that this was a simple counting mistake are the highest. Pharmacies are really hectic places and you are trying to count medicine while getting screamed at by customers, answering the phone, and running around. (I know this is no excuse but it does happen). Usually, if you are short by 3 pills, 5 pills, or a round amount (say 30 pills of a 60 pill prescription), it is a simple human counting error (Pharmacy staff counts by 3 or 5 pills at a time. You can end up with half if the person counting is used to counting 30 or 60 out and doesn't notice that your prescription is for a higher amount (60 or 120)). Controlled medicines come in various schedules. The C2s (Oxycontin, percocet, ADD meds, Hydromorphone, Fentanyls, etc) are tightly, tightly controlled. These usually get triple counted and the pharmacy keeps an inventory of EVERY prescription filled as well as the inventory of stock before/after each fill. These are easier to ID a shortage because they will be over/under based on your prescription (Like in wrongside's case). The C3-5s (vicodin, Norco, phentermine, soma, ambien, lyrica, etc)are trickier. These are double counted but the inventory isn't recorded after every RX. This is because there are so many, it would be a paperwork nightmare (and would triple the amount of time to get your RX). It sucks that you were treated like that, wrongside. Unfortunately, the people in the pharmacy get jaded because SOOO many of their customers are abusing/selling their meds that when people say they were shorted, it gets the pharmacy staff suspicious. When I worked at a pharmacy, we had lots of people (usually Medicaid and Worker's comp) who we were pretty sure were selling it or abusing it. Unfortunately, there isn't much we could do to stop it unless we had solid proof. These people had lots of nerve and didn't care if we were suspicious, and would just scream at you trying to get more meds/early meds/etc. It makes you pretty bitter abut other humans...
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Post by cronewitch on Aug 24, 2013 22:39:59 GMT -5
I was shorted on birth control pills once. I had a prescription for 30 and only got 21. I counted in the car and went back to complain and was told they assumed the doctor meant 21.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Aug 24, 2013 23:25:33 GMT -5
I was shorted on birth control pills once. I had a prescription for 30 and only got 21. I counted in the car and went back to complain and was told they assumed the doctor meant 21. You weren't shorted. Normal packages of birth control pills contain 28 pills. There are 21 pills with active ingredients and 7 placebos. Some companies make 21 pill packs so that you don't take any pill or those 7 days. The placebo pills just keep you on schedule for asking a daily pill.
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Post by Nazgul Girl on Aug 24, 2013 23:57:40 GMT -5
Pharmacies are indeed very hard places to work in. My DH was not able to graduate from pharmacy school ten years ago, after several years of courses, due his health issues, but he was also a registered pharmacy tech, and worked for awhile in a couple of commercial pharmacies. He had eyesight issues, and was slow with the counting and cashiering, so the customers were awful to him. He had to deal with some addicts, and that was difficult. He finally left, and I helped him with his SSD app. I understand that it's annoying to wait for someone who is a little slow when you're trying to pick up a script, but being sworn and screamed at for $ 12.00 an hour was definitely not worth it. He'd be working fulltime today if he could work. But he's told me that one of the reasons why he was slower was that he was making sure he wasn't making an error that could hurt or kill somebody. He's said he's glad he's out of the field because of the pressure and his fear that he could make a filling error that could have harmed someone. But the pharmacy had no excuse for treating you badly, Wrongside.
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Post by cronewitch on Aug 25, 2013 0:32:35 GMT -5
I was shorted on birth control pills once. I had a prescription for 30 and only got 21. I counted in the car and went back to complain and was told they assumed the doctor meant 21. You weren't shorted. Normal packages of birth control pills contain 28 pills. There are 21 pills with active ingredients and 7 placebos. Some companies make 21 pill packs so that you don't take any pill or those 7 days. The placebo pills just keep you on schedule for asking a daily pill. That is what the pharmacist was thinking the doctor meant. I wasn't taking them for birth control but for a hormonal problem so just took 30 pills then was done. The doctor was old and the pharmacist took it upon himself to change the prescription without knowing my issues at all. The next time I had a problem and suggested I birth control pills could solve it the next doctor insisted on a D&C to see why I had a problem so I didn't have to take pills.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 25, 2013 6:14:07 GMT -5
But the 7 are inert so I don't understand what taking the 28 would do for you? It's the 21 that count.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2013 7:17:58 GMT -5
But the 7 are inert so I don't understand what taking the 28 would do for you? It's the 21 that count. she would have needed 2 packages to get to the 30 days.
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Post by 973beachbum on Aug 25, 2013 7:37:33 GMT -5
But the 7 are inert so I don't understand what taking the 28 would do for you? It's the 21 that count. I don't think her Dr prescribed the "birth control pack" but the actual drug for 30 days. You can get just about any drugs in the birth control packs in regular pill form like an antibiotic. I think when her Dr wrote the Rx the pharmacy thought he meant BCP's, when he really wanted her to have a daily dose of that/those hormones.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 25, 2013 7:43:06 GMT -5
Got it. Must be having a blonde moment. For a minute there I thought I had figured out where DS came from! Me taking the pills wrong!!
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Post by 973beachbum on Aug 25, 2013 9:01:33 GMT -5
Got it. Must be having a blonde moment. For a minute there I thought I had figured out where DS came from! Me taking the pills wrong!! I have a daughter from taking antibiotics while on the BC pills. Back then they either didn't know, or didn't think it was important to tell people that the antibiotics make BC pills as effective as tic tacs when taken together.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Aug 25, 2013 12:30:28 GMT -5
But the 7 are inert so I don't understand what taking the 28 would do for you? It's the 21 that count. I don't think her Dr prescribed the "birth control pack" but the actual drug for 30 days. You can get just about any drugs in the birth control packs in regular pill form like an antibiotic. I think when her Dr wrote the Rx the pharmacy thought he meant BCP's, when he really wanted her to have a daily dose of that/those hormones. Hormones for HRT are prescribed in 28 day packs as well. It is kind of annoying as I figure I am shorted a package each year. However, if Crone's doc prescribed BCPs for something other than BC, then he should have prescribed as such.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 25, 2013 13:15:07 GMT -5
That's how I got DS. No one telling me btw, use another form of bc while you're on these. Love DS but an unplanned pregnancy is never welcome whether you're 18 or 28.
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Post by 973beachbum on Aug 26, 2013 8:32:12 GMT -5
I don't think her Dr prescribed the "birth control pack" but the actual drug for 30 days. You can get just about any drugs in the birth control packs in regular pill form like an antibiotic. I think when her Dr wrote the Rx the pharmacy thought he meant BCP's, when he really wanted her to have a daily dose of that/those hormones. Hormones for HRT are prescribed in 28 day packs as well. It is kind of annoying as I figure I am shorted a package each year. However, if Crone's doc prescribed BCPs for something other than BC, then he should have prescribed as such. I know they are today but they weren't always. Crone is older than me and I remember when I worked in a pharmacy in HS and college people getting HRT Rxs didn't get the BCP packs, but the regular drug like any other Rx. the older versions of HRT are probably pretty cheap by now. The cynic in me thinks that may be the reason for the push to make sure all HRT Rx's are for the new BC packs instead of the dirt cheap older versions.
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Post by lurkyloo on Aug 26, 2013 13:50:29 GMT -5
The much older versions had harsher doses of hormones or hormone analogs, I believe. Although the pharma world certainly makes a lot of money off new packaging, etc.
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