Do I have the job or not?

[thyme4change]

HR makes the call to tell people that are not getting the job.

In all my years of job hopping, I have only gotten 1 call from a company that I interviewed with telling me I didn't get a job.  I've gotten a few letters, one postcard (dodged a bullet there), but mostly just silence, and you just guess you didn't get the job.

22 days seems like a long time, and "chat" is not entirely solid.  I wonder if they changed the scope, or they pushed off the opening for a few months or something.  But it doesn't seem like a rejection either.  Weird.

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[Jaguar]

Cass what happened ?

[mmhmm]

I've had a situation occur in which an applicant for a listed job opening was also suited (very well, indeed) for another position that was coming open soon.  In that case, I called the applicant to discuss both positions to see which might most appeal and whether a short delay would be a problem.  That could be the case here.  We won't know until Cass is able to talk to the person in charge of hiring.

[Cass]

They are currently advertising two other positions...

Her voicemail yesterday said she was in training until afternoon.  It's noon here, I'll try in an hour or so.

[Cass]

Thanks Rukh!

She is "away from her desk" again.  So frustrating.

[thyme4change]

She calls you and then is out of pocket for 2 days?  Are you sure you want to work for this person?  She will treat you at least this inconsequential when you work for her.  Think carefully, and don't be fooled by "the grass is greener" syndrome.  This lady/department/company sounds flaky.  Is there anyone you can ask to find out what it is really like to work there and/or for her in particular?  I see red flags.

[happyscooter]

I agree with thyme.  If she wants you to call her but she knows that you have a job now and cannot be on the phone, she should give you a definite time to talk to her.  Would her company like it if you worked for them but was making personal phone calls every few hours?  (yes YMers, I have worked at companies that you only made phone calls on your lunch hour and breaks.)

[Cass]

Ok, I finally spoke with her. She had trouble getting my contact info. back from HR

So, she hired someone else for the position.  But another position is likely coming open, she just hasn't gotten formal paperwork yet.  She's willing to offer me that one once it's official.  In the next couple weeks. 

And she took my email address to avoid future phone tag. 

[mmhmm]

Aug 14, 2013 13:14:15 GMT -5 Cass said:

Ok, I finally spoke with her. She had trouble getting my contact info. back from HR

So, she hired someone else for the position.  But another position is likely coming open, she just hasn't gotten formal paperwork yet.  She's willing to offer me that one once it's official.  In the next couple weeks. 

And she took my email address to avoid future phone tag. 

Did she tell you what the position might entail?  I'd kinda thought this might be what was going on.  They're interested in you, so you must have presented yourself very well.  I'd sure give it a listen, anyway.  Good luck!

[Cass]

It's the same position I interviewed for, but now there may be two openings instead of one.

I'm definitely interested.  Despite the disorganization, from what I know so far the pay and benefits are very good and the work fits my skills very well.

[Cass]

Aug 13, 2013 10:58:38 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

I've had a situation occur in which an applicant for a listed job opening was also suited (very well, indeed) for another position that was coming open soon.  In that case, I called the applicant to discuss both positions to see which might most appeal and whether a short delay would be a problem.  That could be the case here.  We won't know until Cass is able to talk to the person in charge of hiring.

And mmhmm is somehow psychic

[Jaguar]

Aug 14, 2013 21:18:20 GMT -5 Cass said:

Aug 13, 2013 10:58:38 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

I've had a situation occur in which an applicant for a listed job opening was also suited (very well, indeed) for another position that was coming open soon.  In that case, I called the applicant to discuss both positions to see which might most appeal and whether a short delay would be a problem.  That could be the case here.  We won't know until Cass is able to talk to the person in charge of hiring.

And mmhmm is somehow psychic

Yup

[justme]

Aug 14, 2013 13:39:18 GMT -5 Cass said:

It's the same position I interviewed for, but now there may be two openings instead of one.

I'm definitely interested.  Despite the disorganization, from what I know so far the pay and benefits are very good and the work fits my skills very well.

That actually happened with my job, but I was in the #1 position. I was talking with my manager about start dates and things and he's like great the other person is starting that day too! I was like other person? Apparently someway during the interview process they won a contract so a second position opened up so instead of interviewing again they just offered it to their #2 choice. It worked out great for both of us.

[Opti]

I'm glad its working out for you Cass. Two positions instead of one may also be a great sign the company is doing well.

[Jaguar]

Cass any updates ?

[8 Bit WWBG]

I've been working with a helpdesk technician who I am CONVINCED looks at my calendar and calls me when he knows I will be busy.  He has managed to call during conference calls and web meetings.  I'm going to have to set up some dummy meetings to bait him.

[Otto the Orange]

mmhmm since your psychic, how about pm-ing me the next winning lotto numbers?

[Cass]

Aug 17, 2013 23:36:30 GMT -5 Jaguar said:

Cass any updates ?

You're as impatient as I am!

She said within 2 weeks, it's only been 4 days...

Opti- the company is doing very well.  There was a lot of talk of travel and training etc.  I'm anxious to get started.

[Jaguar]

Aug 18, 2013 9:09:10 GMT -5 Otto the Orange said:

mmhmm since your psychic, how about pm-ing me the next winning lotto numbers?

, most certainly

[Jaguar]

Aug 18, 2013 10:31:47 GMT -5 Cass said:

Aug 17, 2013 23:36:30 GMT -5 Jaguar said:

Cass any updates ?

You're as impatient as I am!

She said within 2 weeks, it's only been 4 days...

Opti- the company is doing very well.  There was a lot of talk of travel and training etc.  I'm anxious to get started.

Well you got 10 more days of me asking any updates yet.

[Cass]

[mmhmm]

Aug 18, 2013 10:32:44 GMT -5 Jaguar said:

Aug 18, 2013 9:09:10 GMT -5 Otto the Orange said:

mmhmm since your psychic, how about pm-ing me the next winning lotto numbers?

, most certainly

LOL!  I wish I were psychic.  If I were psychic, I'd be in the south of France, basking on the beach! 

[Jaguar]

Well any updates to report Cass ?

[Cass]

Aug 26, 2013 20:11:59 GMT -5 Jaguar said:

Well any updates to report Cass ?

I've heard nothing...

Tomorrow marks 2 weeks.  

[Jaguar]

So you should hear something really soon then.

[Cass]

Sure hope so! 

[Jaguar]

Well did you hear anything today ?

[Cass]

No, still nothing.

But I sent a blitz of resumes yesterday and already have an interview for next Thursday.

Anybody know what a 'group interview' is?  Is the group the candidates or the current staff?

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

I've done both.  Some were everyone that worked in the lab, Some were just with supervisors, one was with all the candidates.

The latter was a very poorly thought out interview for Victoria's Secret. I was trying to pick up a PT gig for extra cash.  I've never encountered one like that since and hope I never will. 

My guess is for a professional job you'll be meeting with more than one person who works there.  When I interviewed recently I met with four different people.  They were supervisors for the four departments I'd be collaborating with in the position.