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Post by siralynn on Aug 8, 2013 16:09:34 GMT -5
I prefer to be addressed informally (no titles). However, if being addressed formally, I do prefer Dr. since it is my correct title. But I only really get burned up about it if titles are getting used and mine is incorrect (i.e. an interview schedule that had all the male PhDs as "Dr." and I was listed as "Ms.") The other thing I find annoying is websites that force you to pick a title, but then don't have the correct choice available (Mr./Mrs./Miss - what do I pick as a married woman who didn't change her last name?)
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Post by garion2003 on Aug 9, 2013 8:13:48 GMT -5
I think most people (except for the insufferable types we all know) generally are low key and would go by "first name". But in a professional setting it's always best to use titles and the correct form of address.
Growing up the pastor of my church had an earned doctorate, and we (as kids) called him "Dr. Smith", the same way we would call our friend's parents "Mr and Mrs Jones". Once I grew older I could call the pastor "David" but I still call my friend's parents Mr and Mrs Jones!
Maybe that experience taught me early on that an MD is not the only kind of "doctor" out there. Especially once I went to college.
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Post by Labcat on Aug 9, 2013 9:30:14 GMT -5
I guess I wasn't as clear as I thought. This is for the salutation in an email. In person it would just be Mr./Ms. ----. So it would be more like the situation above. I know their title and all the letters...but do I include them in the email? Example: Dear Mr./Ms. Smith CRT-ACCS, or Dear Mr./Ms. Smith, No, Labcat, do not include the letters behind the name in your salutation. That's not proper form. Dear Mr./Ms. Smith is the accepted salutation. Thank you. Since competition for this position is high I'm trying to avoid insulting them.
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Post by tskeeter on Aug 9, 2013 11:35:37 GMT -5
In my experience, only physicians, academics, people with doctorates who grew up in Germany, and some people involved in scientific research demand that they be addressed as Doctor. Others find Mr./Mrs./Ms. or being addressed by their name, with no professional designation, perfectly acceptable.
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Post by Regis on Aug 9, 2013 12:52:29 GMT -5
I have letters after my name only to indicate that I have fulfilled the requirements to practice engineering and land surveying in a particular state. Personally, I really couldn't care less. If you put "to whom it may concern", I still answer it! Same thing for titles. I let my company pick mine. When I had my own company, everyone pretty much picked their own (within reason). Our receptionist was the Director of First Impressions.
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Post by Angel! on Aug 9, 2013 13:06:59 GMT -5
I wouldn't call anyone by their first name unless they invited me to do so, especially in a professional capacity.........It would be bad manners to be over familiar. I guess it depends on the profession. Everyone in my world is on a first name basis. The only time I would use formal greeting is in an official letter. But, emails and phone are all just first name - even to people I have never actually met.
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Post by Spellbound454 on Aug 10, 2013 10:46:08 GMT -5
Me too The people that know about them number about 5... and those who do know don't really care.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2013 12:13:44 GMT -5
The other thing I find annoying is websites that force you to pick a title, but then don't have the correct choice available (Mr./Mrs./Miss - what do I pick as a married woman who didn't change her last name?) Yeah, I get that, too. And of course it's a required field! Two things in this vein when DH and I were married 10 years ago: the paperwork at my church (a historic Episcopal church which must have been using some very old forms) had two checkboxes for the bride's pre-marriage status: Widow or Spinster. Umm, neither of the above? I also had a ball addressing invitations. We had a few Dr. and Mr. addressees, one Rev. and Mr. and one to Revs. Dr. A and B Smith (both ordained, both D.Div.).
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Post by Nazgul Girl on Aug 10, 2013 19:13:24 GMT -5
For ministers/priests, there are various forms of address and salutations, such as " Father Flanagan " ( as was already noted, " Pastor Sirwhatchamacallitt " ( Lutheran ), "Reverend Ryan, " " Rabbi Wine," and so on.
Our Unitarian minister in the church that I grew up in was addressed as " Dr. Gaede."
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Post by chiver78 on Aug 10, 2013 21:21:17 GMT -5
What's in a PhD anyway.... Dr. Cooper Dr. Hofstetter Dr. Koothrappali Mister. Wolowitz FWIW, I technically have letters after my name, but I never use them. Or care.... is there some reference I'm missing here....? fwiw, what mmhmm says about leaving the letters after the name off the salutation, I'd go with that. in any formal offer letters, I would include them. email correspondence before an offer is made isn't exactly the most formal of correspondence, so I wouldn't worry about it too much. as others have said, if your addressing offends the other person, you'll find out soon enough.....and that will also tell you a bit more about your candidate. I'm currently pursuing an industry certification that's going to give me some letters after my name. I'm going to add them to my business cards, LinkedIn profile (that pretty clearly hasn't been updated since I opened it) and to my email signature where I work. I don't AT ALL expect anyone to address me with those new letters.
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Post by chiver78 on Aug 10, 2013 21:23:42 GMT -5
Two things in this vein when DH and I were married 10 years ago: the paperwork at my church (a historic Episcopal church which must have been using some very old forms) had two checkboxes for the bride's pre-marriage status: Widow or Spinster. Umm, neither of the above? wow.
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Post by taz157 on Aug 10, 2013 22:53:40 GMT -5
What's in a PhD anyway.... Dr. Cooper Dr. Hofstetter Dr. Koothrappali Mister. Wolowitz FWIW, I technically have letters after my name, but I never use them. Or care.... is there some reference I'm missing here....? If you watch The Big Bang Theory, you get the reference that Lucy made.
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Post by mmhmm on Aug 10, 2013 23:30:27 GMT -5
Even in a formal letter of offer, using the initials after someone's name in a salutation would not be proper form. Those letters are to be used, by the individual bearing them, in signatures.
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Post by Nazgul Girl on Aug 11, 2013 0:01:21 GMT -5
The other thing I find annoying is websites that force you to pick a title, but then don't have the correct choice available (Mr./Mrs./Miss - what do I pick as a married woman who didn't change her last name?) Yeah, I get that, too. And of course it's a required field! Two things in this vein when DH and I were married 10 years ago: the paperwork at my church (a historic Episcopal church which must have been using some very old forms) had two checkboxes for the bride's pre-marriage status: Widow or Spinster. Umm, neither of the above? I also had a ball addressing invitations. We had a few Dr. and Mr. addressees, one Rev. and Mr. and one to Revs. Dr. A and B Smith (both ordained, both D.Div.). I wonder how this church is handling gay marriage and gay priests/priestesses ? Fascinating.
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Post by chiver78 on Aug 11, 2013 7:02:04 GMT -5
is there some reference I'm missing here....? If you watch The Big Bang Theory, you get the reference that Lucy made. thanks. I don't watch that show. makes sense that I was confused. sent from my electronic distraction
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2013 8:55:41 GMT -5
I wonder how this church is handling gay marriage and gay priests/priestesses ? Fascinating. They're one of the most liberal in the diocese. Off the top of my head I can think of 5 gay and lesbian priests who have served in that church over the years, some of whom had their partners and children living with them in the rectory. One later became a bishop (now retired) and one is Canon of a cathedral. They were, however, very traditional about their worship style!
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