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Post by flamingo on Jul 21, 2013 18:03:07 GMT -5
So about 2 weeks ago my DH and I moved (i got a great new job and it was too far to commute) We live in an apt complex. The new complex has 2 floors; we live on the lower floor. We chose it on purpose- better layout, nicer patio, etc. our next door neighbors are very nice, and im happy to know them. HOWEVER, our upstairs neighbors are, shall we say, different. Saturday morning, we woke up to a huge pile of vomit on our patio that based on the location, could only have come from someone standing on their porch and vomiting over the railing. Then today, I tried to take our trash out, and they had filled our trash can (clearly labeled with our apt number on it) to overflowing with bags of maggot filled trash. DH went to talk to them both yesterday morning re the vomit and again today re the maggots. Their response: so sorry, but that's what you get for living in an apt complex. Yes, that's what they said to us Now, to be fair, they don't know us and they don't know that we are both attorneys. They also don't know that my DH is semi-retired and works from home, therefore giving him all the time in the world to deal with this (not just talking to the neighbors, but talking to the rental office). They also haven't met me yet. So, they better respond well to my DH's "catch more flies with honey" approach because if they don't, I will rain my wrath down on them! Really, I'm pretty non-confrontational, but I'm just a bit to disgusted to let this go on much longer! WWYD?
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Post by swamp on Jul 21, 2013 18:04:51 GMT -5
Start filing complaints with the management
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Post by swamp on Jul 21, 2013 18:05:15 GMT -5
And flaming bags of poo would be a good idea too.
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Post by Jaguar on Jul 21, 2013 18:07:53 GMT -5
Start filing complaints with the management
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Post by flamingo on Jul 21, 2013 18:08:53 GMT -5
LOL. Or bags of vomit! I've rented quite a bit in my life, this is definitely the worst.
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Post by flamingo on Jul 21, 2013 18:22:59 GMT -5
We ended up doing it because it had been there so long it was attracting bugs. We live in Central Florida. It is hot and muggy and pretty much anything will attract bugs. We told the upstairs neighbor at 8am Saturday morning about it and it was still there around 4/5pm, so my DH just did it. Which, we were willing to overlook as a drunken rowdy night, until the maggot issue. Since the maggots were crawling on our fence/patio, we decided to make a formal complaint when their reaction was basically you deal with it, we don't care about it.
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Post by chiver78 on Jul 21, 2013 18:40:51 GMT -5
Start filing complaints with the management and if you get nowhere with management, I'd contact the Board of Health....especially after that sort of reply from your neighbors. vomit in a public place is treated as a biohazard. if nothing else, it could get you moved to another apt within the complex, since you seem to like it other than your upstairs neighbors. good luck!
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Post by busymom on Jul 21, 2013 18:53:40 GMT -5
Wow, that's some welcome to the neighborhood! You're reminding me about what I DON'T miss about apartment life. Next time they have a party, be sure you crank up the volume on your alarm clock so it goes off at say, about 8 am. Then make sure you're gone getting groceries, so they can listen to the noise for about 15 minutes. Oops! A big yes to contacting management & the Board of Health. Why do I get the feeling their apartment looks like an episode of "Hoarders"?
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Post by MarleyKeezy78 on Jul 21, 2013 18:57:22 GMT -5
I'd throw their vomit on their front porch and let them see how it feels! Does their porch face the hot sun I would put their trash there as well
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Post by milee on Jul 21, 2013 19:20:54 GMT -5
You're already doing the right thing by talking to them directly but in a calm way. If that doesn't work, talk to the complex management. As satisfying as it would be to retaliate, it's probably not a good idea. Especially if you live on the floor underneath them. Sucks, but it's the truth. They can make your life pretty miserable before they're evicted - and that's assuming management will even work on doing that.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Jul 21, 2013 19:44:49 GMT -5
Well, I am sure you know all the lawery ways to deal with it - take pics, document everything, yada yada yada
But I would find out how long their lease is bc you might want to cut your losses and move.
Judging by their responses you are not dealing with nice or rational or mature people, so.....
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Post by flamingo on Jul 21, 2013 19:54:08 GMT -5
Well, I am sure you know all the lawery ways to deal with it - take pics, document everything, yada yada yada But I would find out how long their lease is bc you might want to cut your losses and move. Judging by their responses you are not dealing with nice or rational or mature people, so..... Yeah, I'd say they are not nice, rational, or mature. However, since we just moved in 2 weeks ago and pain of moving is still fresh, I'm not sure that's the solution I am after! More packing, unpacking, cleaning, organizing?? Until yesterday, I'd have said that was the worst torture you could inflict on me! So I'll just cling to my slim thread of hope that things go well tomorrow!
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Post by swamp on Jul 21, 2013 20:03:40 GMT -5
You're already doing the right thing by talking to them directly but in a calm way. If that doesn't work, talk to the complex management. As satisfying as it would be to retaliate, it's probably not a good idea. Especially if you live on the floor underneath them. Sucks, but it's the truth. They can make your life pretty miserable before they're evicted - and that's assuming management will even work on doing that. You know you want to shoot paintballs at them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2013 20:23:20 GMT -5
You remind me why I am glad I live on a SFH that just happens to be on 1/2 an acre. I was fine with less land (a garden home), but I never want to ever live so close to someone again that they can vomit over the deck rail above me.
I would start the complaint trail to the management NOW because they could start it against you for some made-up reason. I lived in a second floor apt. after the divorce. The downstairs neighbor came up to "complain" about all the noise I was making. I was a single, middle-aged (45) woman who didn't even watch tv. What noise? Then he said how lonely he was and how much he would enjoy having a "friend" to have a beer with. I told him I was too old to make new friends (quit laughing) and reported him to the management the next day. Management told me she was glad I came first because he could have claimed I was the one violating the lease.
Don't play games with the jerks. Report them to management.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Jul 21, 2013 21:42:27 GMT -5
I live on 6 acres and still have to deal with shitty asshole neighbors, who, btw, think they own the town.....
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Post by milee on Jul 22, 2013 5:28:48 GMT -5
You're already doing the right thing by talking to them directly but in a calm way. If that doesn't work, talk to the complex management. As satisfying as it would be to retaliate, it's probably not a good idea. Especially if you live on the floor underneath them. Sucks, but it's the truth. They can make your life pretty miserable before they're evicted - and that's assuming management will even work on doing that. You know you want to shoot paintballs at them. Oh, paintballs are the least of what I'd want to do. I've just seen enough over the years to realize that neighbor wars are a no-win situation and unless you're both very unscrupulous (which often the other side is and you aren't) and willing to devote 24/7 "attention" to it, the jerk neighbors are likely to be better at the war than you are. Sure you can win some battles, but to win takes sustained behaviour that most reasonable people don't have in them. YMMV
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Post by flamingo on Jul 22, 2013 6:55:14 GMT -5
You know you want to shoot paintballs at them. Oh, paintballs are the least of what I'd want to do. I've just seen enough over the years to realize that neighbor wars are a no-win situation and unless you're both very unscrupulous (which often the other side is and you aren't) and willing to devote 24/7 "attention" to it, the jerk neighbors are likely to be better at the war than you are. Sure you can win some battles, but to win takes sustained behaviour that most reasonable people don't have in them. YMMV Yes, paintballs. That sounds like fun My husband is planning to be waiting for the doors to the management building to open at 9am. I swear he lives for this type of stuff. And, I'm certain he will come out smelling like a rose and making everyone his best friend before the day is over. Thank God, because I'd go for the petty retaliation and harsh words
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Post by NoNamePerson on Jul 22, 2013 7:32:04 GMT -5
Aw the memories flood back. I lived in townhouse style apt. Neighbor thought he was living in a frat house. No need to go into all the details since most I just tolerated. But then he started cranking up the music and leaving for the weekend. So no talking to him. Then he started "throwing" stuff at the walls during the night. Think he was on drugs.
My son came over once while music was blaring and asked what the hell? I told him about problem. He said come with me. Went out on my enclosed patio and he pointed at power meters. This was back in mid 80's and meters not made like now. He just flipped a lever and no more noise.
You get the picture. Drove him crazy cause he couldn't figure out what was going on. He finally moved!! He also drove a convertible but we won't go there. My evil twin kicked in once.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2013 8:50:43 GMT -5
Condo or apartments require you to live close to "people". I just don't like people that much so that's why I don't live in those places. As for: You're already doing the right thing by talking to them directly but in a calm way. If that doesn't work, talk to the complex management.Well we all have to find a way to address situations like this & if that works for you go for it. As for me I've always found that appearing that you will go bat shit crazy on them generally works for me. (And before someone says it, nope I've never had the police called, never been to court, & I've never had to go address the situation a 2nd time).
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jul 22, 2013 9:16:40 GMT -5
Please keep us posted. Some of us live vicariously though other people's drama.
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 22, 2013 9:21:01 GMT -5
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Jul 22, 2013 9:45:18 GMT -5
hmmmm - wonder why that apartment was available ? (Good luck!)
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Post by flamingo on Jul 22, 2013 12:37:26 GMT -5
So my DH talked to management. They were apologetic but not surprised. Maintenance has already been out to clean up the garbage cans and bring us new mulch. According to my DH the manager he spoke with was very impressed by his calm tone/demeanor. As he was telling them the issue, however, the upstairs neighbor walked out of the assistant manager's office. My DH said the neighbor looks "utterly shocked" and immediately starting stammering apologies. Apparently, they thought they were going to get the jump on the situation and try to blame us. Lucky for us, we had pictures, we already had a paper trail (we emailed last night and called the emergency number, which caused a report to be filled out). As everyone is trying to figure the situation out, it comes out that the neighbor had lied and said we were the ones having loud, raucous parties and we were the ones "disturbing the peace". Please! We are the boring people who are in bed by 9pm on a Friday night, and the first one's at the fitness center Saturday morning. We don't have enough friends to have "raucous" parties! My DH said that the management is on our side, as they've had problems with these people before. It sounds to me, through my second and third hand info, that there is a good possibility their lease won't be renewed in a few months. All this being said, my bet is not how long either of us can outlast the other, but on how long it takes my DH to make them his new best friends. That's his usual MO. I'm more for paintballing their door at 6am on a Saturday , but I can work with most anything that doesn't involve maggots and vomit!
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Post by thyme4change on Jul 22, 2013 12:41:19 GMT -5
Is there a way to put a lock on your trash bin?
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Post by The Captain on Jul 22, 2013 12:52:19 GMT -5
flamingo - I feel you pain. Good luck with this and I hope mgmt sticks to their guns and does not renew the lease.
My first apartment (young single female) was also on the ground floor. The neighbour above me had some drunk buddies who thought it would be funny to surprise him in the middle of the night. Their alcohol addled logic led them to believe the best way to do this was by breaking in through my unit.
I call the police as they were ripping the screen door off and there was an arrest made. The management company refused to press charges. I got a copy of the report, told them I feared for my safety and was breaking my lease. I got my deposit back AS I was moving out.
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Jul 22, 2013 12:59:15 GMT -5
And flaming bags of poo would be a good idea too. I read that as "flamingo bags of poo". I can't believe they went to management trying to pin this on you guys. Too many pieces of shit are living and breathing these days. Hey! They can be the flaming bag of poo!
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Post by formerroomate99 on Jul 22, 2013 13:15:12 GMT -5
This won't help this time, but next time you move, do ask the neighbors about what the other neighbors are like. Apartment dwellers are generally very frank about what it is like to live there and you can get a pretty accurate picture of the management company, utility bills and the quality of the neighbors from a quck chat with a couple of neighbors.
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Post by Jaguar on Jul 22, 2013 13:31:15 GMT -5
Good Luck with the neighbors from Hell.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Jul 22, 2013 15:15:52 GMT -5
Sounds like you need a neighborhood watch Yeah, I went there .
Seriously though, I wouldn't do anything except see if the situation doesn't improve. Two incidents aren't something I'd start legal action over. If you must do something, inform the rental office. I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not sure what legal action could be taken, but I don't think very much.
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 22, 2013 16:34:08 GMT -5
I find the rental office really doesn't want to get involved. Unlike me who evicts tenants who don't act considerate of their neighbors, rental offices really don't care. They aren't going to do a thing about them.
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