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Post by thyme4change on Jul 20, 2013 6:58:49 GMT -5
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Post by swamp on Jul 20, 2013 7:38:50 GMT -5
I love roller coasters and no, this will not deter me.
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Post by mollyanna58 on Jul 20, 2013 7:49:06 GMT -5
I don't like major roller coasters. Disney coasters (Space Mountain, Runaway Train) are about my maximum. So, since I don't go on scary coasters, this won't stop me. That poor woman and her kids .
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Post by resolution on Jul 20, 2013 7:53:42 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 7:55:42 GMT -5
I dislike roller coasters. I rode them when I was young to fit in with my friends.
Now I'm old enough not to care. So this won't deter me . . . because I wouldn't be riding them, anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 9:00:18 GMT -5
I don't do roller coasters, I don't like how I feel sick for the next hour after I get off them. This won't deter me, but might deter me from being ok with DH going on them....
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Post by chiver78 on Jul 20, 2013 9:10:45 GMT -5
I love roller coasters and no, this will not deter me. ^this. the woman wasnt secured, and she said so. I'm sorry for her and her family, and I hope the attendant is at least fired. Six Flags definitely has a lawsuit coming. I'm not sure how the liability waivers on every ticket apply when the attendants blatantly ignore a request for assistance in securing a passenger. sent from my electronic distraction
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Post by whoami on Jul 20, 2013 9:12:30 GMT -5
I find that hard to believe. I've ridden this very roller coaster many times over many years and the attendants are always very vigilant about checking the harnesses and making sure they are securely locked. This coaster was renovated within the last couple years....it used to be super rough but runs like a regular steel coaster these days. She obviously fell out but I just don't believe based on my experiences that an attendant just blew off her concerns. I would also think someone who was concerned about their harness would get OFF.
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Post by Shooby on Jul 20, 2013 9:47:51 GMT -5
Ugh! We are leaving for Cedar Point tomorrow! And, there was an incident there too.
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Post by Shooby on Jul 20, 2013 9:50:43 GMT -5
I find that hard to believe. I've ridden this very roller coaster many times over many years and the attendants are always very vigilant about checking the harnesses and making sure they are securely locked. This coaster was renovated within the last couple years....it used to be super rough but runs like a regular steel coaster these days. She obviously fell out but I just don't believe based on my experiences that an attendant just blew off her concerns. I would also think someone who was concerned about their harness would get OFF. You would think but she probably didn't appreciate the risk. She waited a long time to get on the coaster and the worker said it was fine so she probably thought to herself that it would be OK. It was the spur of the moment decision. We have ALL forged ahead thinking something would be fine. Who hasn't.
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Post by Shooby on Jul 20, 2013 10:18:12 GMT -5
What kind of security was it? Was it just the pull down bar or a belt? I would like to know that. But, the fact that she pointed this out makes me believe it was not properly secured or broken and the attendant blew it off.
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Post by steph08 on Jul 20, 2013 12:32:24 GMT -5
How sad. That poor woman. OT, a little. I've often worried about rides like this causing strokes in people. While with the kids at the fair the other night, I noticed that there were signs on some of the rides that said "NO" to anyone with heart problems and high blood pressure.I'm pretty sure almost all rides have those signs - basically because the parks are covering their butts. It's ride at your own risk. I love roller coasters. This will not deter me from riding them. I'm trying to convince DH to go to Cedar Point in September.
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Jul 20, 2013 14:40:21 GMT -5
I can no longer handle heights in any capacity. I used to love roller coasters! It would not change my mind if I still rode them but I'd make damn sure I was buckled in correctly before it took off. This is heart breaking that she knew it wasn't done correctly and was ignored (and probably to keep the peace she let it go after she was brushed off) but even worse is that her kids witnessed this horrible tragedy. Hearing your mother screaming and falling to her death like that would traumatize the strongest of us. I hope they get the appropriate help for these kids.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 17:36:05 GMT -5
The year before my ex and I started dating, he was an insurance adjuster. He told me that it was fine to sign whatever because you can never sign that it is ok for someone to be negligent. That's like saying it's ok if you accidentally kill me because we are into some kink that practices breath control or whatever it is called. Um, no.
The waiver may cover real accidents. But in this case the rider noted the problem, and the attendant assured her it was ok. It wasn't for the reason the rider noted. The company is probably liable. Sure, the family may have to work harder, but the company's insurance will kick in and will try hard to settle.
If all you had to do to lose your rights is sign a slip of paper, we'd have to sign a slip of paper to walk down the street . . . sort of like we already do with required mediation.
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Post by teen persuasion on Jul 21, 2013 18:46:29 GMT -5
I don't like rollercoasters, but I have gone on them in the past. This incident in Texas is something like a death in a (formerly Six Flags) amusement park nearby. A double-amputee Vet was killed when he fell out of the rollercoaster. He should never have been allowed to ride, since he couldn't be secured properly, but it was the reason he'd come to the park, and they had asked beforehand. My kids worked at the park a few years before. The majority of ride attendants are teens, as well as the supervisors training them. They are trained on as many rides as possible in a few days, so that they can float around as needed. As long as things go well, it's all great; when things go wrong or are out of the ordinary .
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Post by thyme4change on Jul 21, 2013 21:29:22 GMT -5
I know I'm being an asshole here - but they released a picture of the woman who died. I wonder if she was too big to fit properly into the seat.
And, if the kid running the ride had said "Sorry ma'am, I think you should step out" I suspect Six Flags would be demonized in the press. But this press has to be way worse than someone saying you are mean to fat people.
Tragic.
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Post by chiver78 on Jul 21, 2013 21:41:49 GMT -5
I haven't yet seen the pic, but that's a very valid question.
as far as the reaction if the kid had questioned her size, Southwest is still near the top of the heap in airline travel, even after asking Kevin Smith a similar question. I think Six Flags would have been okay in the long run.
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Post by thyme4change on Jul 21, 2013 21:43:29 GMT -5
She looks quite heavy.
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Post by Otto the Orange on Jul 22, 2013 4:34:17 GMT -5
I love roller coasters they are pretty scary
this latest incident just increases the scare factor so it will make riding a coaster a better experience IMO
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2013 10:32:35 GMT -5
except I don't think the actual "weight" is the issue so a scale wouldn't help I don't think you could tie it to a certain number I think the problem would be (if that is in fact found to be the actual problem in this case) more the person's "shape" than a particular number on the scale, maybe just like in the airport how they have the thing set up to test that your carry on luggage will fit in the overhead (everyone ignores those anyway), maybe they should have a sample coaster car outside the ride and have peeps test themselves if they fit if they pull the sample bar down.....
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Post by thyme4change on Jul 22, 2013 10:39:40 GMT -5
Maybe they could have those signs like the "You must be at least this tall" - right next to it "You must be no wider than this" and have a drawing of a happy, chubby little bear standing there.
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Post by justme on Jul 22, 2013 11:04:31 GMT -5
A lot of rides do have the seats out front that you could test out, at least around me.
There's a also a few rides that have cars with seats made for big people so they have to wait to ride on one of those. On rides that didn't, I'm not sure how larger people could squeeze into those seats. I'd think it'd be really uncomfortable.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2013 11:38:36 GMT -5
I really like love rollercoasters
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Post by thyme4change on Jul 22, 2013 12:16:14 GMT -5
I don't think I've ever seen the tester seats, although I will say that we haven't been to a Six Flags since before the kids were born - >12 years. I didn't notice them at Disneyland, or California Adventure - although I'm not sure I would be looking.
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Post by justme on Jul 22, 2013 12:21:39 GMT -5
I know Disney World has one outside Expedition Everest and I think I saw them at Rock n' Rollercoaster. At Universal I know Hulk and what used to be called Dueling Dragons had them. At Sea World there's one for Manta. I think I've seen them at Busch Gardens but I haven't been there in a while.
They're not always right up front though, so it's not necessarily something you'd see if all you did was walk straight into the queue line.
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Post by sarcasticgirl on Jul 22, 2013 13:01:23 GMT -5
I love roller coasters. I've ridden the Giant and i'd do it again. I have a significantly higher risk of getting killed while driving to the theme park than falling out of a roller coaster. And if I do fall out... well then someone will make a thread about it
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Post by toomuchreality on Jul 24, 2013 20:31:26 GMT -5
When my daughter was young, she went on a ride at the state fair. It was one of those egg shaped 'cars' that go upside down, while going around like a ferris wheel. I didn't go, so was standing there watching. I heard screaming... It turned out the car she was in didn't have any kind of safety belt or strap, so she was just tumbling around, lose! There was a big gaping hole for you to see out of. Or in this case, for her to fall out of. It was like this, except wasn't totally enclosed I tried to get the operator to stop the ride and get her off, but he didn't speak or understand English. I finally went to the other side, were people exit the ride, so I could get to her faster, if she fell out. Luckily someone standing in line figured out the problem, and got the attendant to stop the ride. It was awful! I haven't gone on a ride at the fair since.
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