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Jun 12, 2013 13:47:30 GMT -5
Post by MarleyKeezy78 on Jun 12, 2013 13:47:30 GMT -5
Our firehouse in town burnt down! WTH Well it didn't completely burn down but it burned up a fire truck and badly damaged the building but still << shakes head>>
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Post by thyme4change on Jun 12, 2013 13:52:03 GMT -5
Definition of irony.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 13:52:43 GMT -5
Like 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 13:53:41 GMT -5
Like 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife. or meeting the man of your dreams and meeting his beautiful wife...
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MarleyKeezy78
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Post by MarleyKeezy78 on Jun 12, 2013 13:54:57 GMT -5
I feel bad but when I found out my reaction was
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Jun 12, 2013 14:04:23 GMT -5
Post by MarleyKeezy78 on Jun 12, 2013 14:04:23 GMT -5
Wrongside yes it is. I know we will be paying for it with a tax hike or something and I feel bad for the firefighters but man! At least they put it out before it did anymore damage.
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Jun 12, 2013 14:10:15 GMT -5
Post by MarleyKeezy78 on Jun 12, 2013 14:10:15 GMT -5
Heck yea it is! They just opened this building in the last year or so too because our fire dept. split into city and township. ETA: It was a truck that held gear and stuff too not a big ladder truck, I don't even know how much those would cost
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Jun 12, 2013 14:14:10 GMT -5
Post by MarleyKeezy78 on Jun 12, 2013 14:14:10 GMT -5
I know the firefighters aren't there at night but yea why wouldn't smoke alarms go off? One would think that a firehouse would have smoke detectors. Maybe it was a hardwired smoke detector that started the fire? Crazy
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Jun 12, 2013 14:15:30 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 14:15:30 GMT -5
Probably one of the firefighters started it. A lot of those guys are pyromaniacs.
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Jun 12, 2013 14:20:24 GMT -5
Post by MarleyKeezy78 on Jun 12, 2013 14:20:24 GMT -5
Lol, I hope not!
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Jun 12, 2013 20:48:45 GMT -5
Post by toomuchreality on Jun 12, 2013 20:48:45 GMT -5
Probably one of the firefighters started it. A lot of those guys are pyromaniacs. Have you been watching TV again Archie?
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Jun 12, 2013 20:55:53 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 20:55:53 GMT -5
Ya, I wouldn't want to be those guys at the next firefighters convention.
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Post by toomuchreality on Jun 13, 2013 2:03:19 GMT -5
I just keep wondering how bad it would have been if it would have been anywhere else. They would have first had to go to the station, get all their gear and trucks, then the travel time to get to the fire. But then again, I wonder how much they were slowed down in fighting the blaze because they didn't have access to the things they would normally have used to fight a fire, since it was being burned up. The amount of equipment required on just a basic truck is enormous! Then you add the cost of all those specialized hoses. Radio equipment, pumps and massive batteries. Breathing apparatuses etc. I hate to think what just a single tire costs... The list goes on and on and all of it has to be specialized. I mean when they come to rescue you, or your home, do you really want them using the same type ladder that you or I would buy at home depot? Or would you rather they used one that is strong enough to withstand the heat, water, and the weight of both of you? Not to mention be tall enough, and not need a stable building to lean against. I'm not surprised that the cost to replace a fire engine is extremely high. Their life is on the line too. If they aren't safe, neither are you, or any of your belongings. I bet they getting a lot of 'heat' (no pun intended) over this one. Most of which probably won't be deserved. I'm sure the people who have their taxes increased etc. to cover the costs are less than thrilled. But on the other hand, assuming they were willing, would you really want them trying to save you, your loved ones, your home or business, without that stuff? Admittedly, you just don't think a fire station is going to catch fire.
Thank goodness for insurance. Huh?
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Jun 13, 2013 2:18:21 GMT -5
Post by tallguy on Jun 13, 2013 2:18:21 GMT -5
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Jun 13, 2013 9:16:40 GMT -5
Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jun 13, 2013 9:16:40 GMT -5
That's cheap. We budget $500K per vehicle out of capital funds. But we replace all hoses and tarps at the same time (but they won't let us put the Toughbooks on that .) And the setup for the "special teams" like HazMat, Heavy Urban Rescue Team, Dive are probably more costly because of the extra/different equipment needed. And fires in firehouses are actually pretty common. You get a run, you haul @ss to get out of the house and sometimes things get left on the stove or burners don't get turned off. It's embarrassing and I know of one case where they worked their butts off to clean, paint, replace everything before the next day's shift came in. To avoid the teasing they'd get.
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Jun 13, 2013 9:19:37 GMT -5
Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jun 13, 2013 9:19:37 GMT -5
The City of Detroit is apparently working with old and worn equipment. And the last time I checked, they were averaging like 25+ fire runs a night. There's blocks where something like 80% of the houses are burned out wrecks.
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Jun 13, 2013 9:45:48 GMT -5
Post by MarleyKeezy78 on Jun 13, 2013 9:45:48 GMT -5
That sounds about right Beth. I feel for the firefighters in the D. That city is in a really rough spot and I hope someday it can turn around. I will gladly pay my taxes to fix our station and for a new fire truck. Shit happens but you don't expect it to happen at your towns firehouse
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Jun 13, 2013 10:34:34 GMT -5
Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jun 13, 2013 10:34:34 GMT -5
Yeah, they are. I do not envy that City Manager or whatever the title is on having to make the hard choices.
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Jun 13, 2013 12:47:38 GMT -5
Post by greeniis10 on Jun 13, 2013 12:47:38 GMT -5
I know the firefighters aren't there at night but yea why wouldn't smoke alarms go off? One would think that a firehouse would have smoke detectors. Maybe it was a hardwired smoke detector that started the fire? Crazy Do you mean the firefighters don't man the station 24/7? That doesn't sound right, so I must be misunderstanding. Here firefighters all work rotating 24 hour shifts. I'm sure that's the norm, right?
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Jun 13, 2013 12:50:50 GMT -5
Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jun 13, 2013 12:50:50 GMT -5
It's the norm in metropolitan areas in the Midwest and East Coast. The West coast runs a different schedule. But smaller, volunteer or rural areas will run what their budget allows.
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Post by greeniis10 on Jun 13, 2013 13:05:08 GMT -5
Oh, gotcha! I wasn't aware we were discussing a more rural area. We have those types of fire departments, too, but I don't think any of our rural ones have $400k firetrucks! I think that's what threw me off.
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Jun 13, 2013 13:47:59 GMT -5
Post by MarleyKeezy78 on Jun 13, 2013 13:47:59 GMT -5
Lol, yes I am in a very small city not Detroit, sorry for the confusion Our city has a volunteer dept and the next city over helps our dept out if they need it.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jun 13, 2013 16:10:59 GMT -5
Oh, gotcha! I wasn't aware we were discussing a more rural area. We have those types of fire departments, too, but I don't think any of our rural ones have $400k firetrucks! I think that's what threw me off. They're not cheap. And while there is a market for used fire vehicles, you have to think about what you're getting. Here, new rigs go into the busiest houses, so we can see if anything breaks while it's under warranty. Then there's a trickle down to the spare fleet so in theory we end up getting rid of the crappiest vehicle. Which may not be the oldest. But I guarantee that whatever we get rid of will have had some hard miles on it.
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Jun 13, 2013 16:17:25 GMT -5
Post by Peace Of Mind on Jun 13, 2013 16:17:25 GMT -5
Lol, yes I am in a very small city not Detroit, sorry for the confusion Our city has a volunteer dept and the next city over helps our dept out if they need it. Then it's their fault they let the place burn down since they clearly needed the help.
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Jun 13, 2013 16:21:12 GMT -5
Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jun 13, 2013 16:21:12 GMT -5
Wrongside yes it is. I know we will be paying for it with a tax hike or something and I feel bad for the firefighters but man! At least they put it out before it did anymore damage.
Aren't these things insured?
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jun 13, 2013 16:22:08 GMT -5
Wrongside yes it is. I know we will be paying for it with a tax hike or something and I feel bad for the firefighters but man! At least they put it out before it did anymore damage.Aren't these things insured? My city is self insured. Not sure how smaller cities/areas do it.
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Jun 13, 2013 17:06:47 GMT -5
Post by MarleyKeezy78 on Jun 13, 2013 17:06:47 GMT -5
I'm sure they are insured I was teasing about the tax hike because we have really expensive taxes in our city. I could complain but this is where we really wanted to live, so it's worth it, burnt up fire house and all
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Post by toomuchreality on Jun 14, 2013 2:55:46 GMT -5
That's one tall ladder!
I hope their fire pole was okay. Assuming they had one, that is. My grandfather, father, uncle, great uncle and cousin were all firemen. (retired) It was fun sliding down the pole when we went to visit or drop off a meal, as a kid, on the rare occasions we were allowed to- we didn't ask often. But I wouldn't want to have to polish it! Who knows, maybe they're a tad easier (or harder- I've never tried) to dance with too! I understand you can do some pretty good exercising with a pole, as well.
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