Phoenix84
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Post by Phoenix84 on Jun 3, 2013 14:00:46 GMT -5
My parents were opposed to the internet for a while. I don't recall exactly but I think we got it in the mid 90's. I might have been 10-12 when we got it. I'm a bit on the older side of the Y's, though not as much as Dark.
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Post by Formerly SK on Jun 3, 2013 14:33:30 GMT -5
IMO it makes more sense to identify a group of people by what decade they were teenagers in. Twenty years is too long of a period to capture commonalities (as stated earlier, people born in 48 would have vastly different childhoods than people born in 63). I was born in 73, but my "generation" feels very different than my youngest sibling's (born in 85) even though we both have boomer parents.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2013 15:15:30 GMT -5
I am a late baby boomer by birthdate (1963), but I don't really fit into a lot of the things that are generally associate with baby boomers. My parent were born at the start of WW2 (1939 and 1940) so they were very young and don't recall the war. When I think of baby boomers, I think of the generations that protested during the 60s and 70s and then lived the good life in the 80s. I kind of recall that but was certainly too young to be involved. I was in college in the 80s, so I missed out on all the materialistic things then. But I don't consider myself Gen X either, I guest I am just a tweener. My sister is the same - born in '62. She says "How could I possibly be a boomer!!!!" She doesn't seem to associate with any of that - the music, or the events or anything. I guess everyone on the fringe gets left off. Yes, I agree. DH is one year too early to be a Boomer and was actually in Viet Nam before they started drafting. Whereas I am smack in the middle of the BB age range, and my father fought in the Korean War, not WWII. But the idea that my daughter, born in 1977, is considered Generation Y by some ranges is such a joke. She has a cellphone, but isn't the least bit interested in social media, etc. She certainly has nothing in common with the 18-year-olds that I taught last year.
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Post by Queen of Interesting Nuts on Jun 3, 2013 15:27:57 GMT -5
I find the late boomers an interesting idea. I don't really see how my mother born in 46 has anything in common with my BIL born in 61, how about my sister born in 65. Isn't that a boomer boomer?
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Jun 3, 2013 15:31:17 GMT -5
LOL!
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Post by muttleynfelix on Jun 3, 2013 15:31:56 GMT -5
I don't think I've seen anything that would label your DD as Gen Y.
One of the ways that I understood the cut off between Gen X and Gen Y is that everyone in Gen X remembers the challenger explosion. All the boomers should remember a man on the moon. Things like that.
I'm early Gen Y.... I guess - I don't remember the challenger explosion. My parents were early boomers. DH was on the cut off of Boomers/Gen X. He's probably more typical of a boomer than my parents are. But his mom is of the pre-boomer generation and she is more like a stereotypical boomer than my parents. Without major events like the depression and WWII to unite the generation it is tough to really identify and who your parents are and how they brought up - and how everyone else around you was brought up is much more influential.
My Grandparents and Great Aunt and Uncle were (are) very stereotypical Greatest Generation. My dad's parent's married during the war and then spent 2 years apart. My mom's parents and her Aunt and Uncle married right after the war and immediately started families. Went to work for companies for 30 years. Had pensions, worked their way up, had a nice little house in a nice part of town, etc.
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Jun 3, 2013 15:40:36 GMT -5
BTW I do think generation names do have meaning for marketing. It's a way to distinguish the people who are buying things and what drives their decisions.
That's why Boomers were such a force to reckon with. The early Boomers (I don't think it's quit that way with us later ones) changed things so much in the world with their needs, beliefs and things that mattered to them because there are so many of them and they had the money.
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Post by Angel! on Jun 3, 2013 16:02:14 GMT -5
Oh, and I don't think millennials and Y are the same generation. Y started in 1980 and ended in 2000, according to most definitions I've seen. The millennials are the kids born from 2000 to today, and sometime around 2020 they'll decide what the next generation will be called, and stick that label on every kid born after that point. According to Wikipedia, the Millenials & Gen Y are the same - early 80's to early 2000's. They are supposedly calling the current generation Gen Z or the Homeland Generation. I'd never heard Homeland Generation before, but I suppose it is the kids that will never know what it is like to board a plane without taking off their shoes & throwing out their full size toothpaste. I consider myself a late Xer & I do remember the Challenger explosion. I thought I was about the same age as Dark & Phoenix, but maybe I am slightly older. That is an interesting definition though.
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Post by muttleynfelix on Jun 3, 2013 16:14:26 GMT -5
The irony is that I don't remember the Challenger explosion, but I do remember the Chicago Bears winning the Super Bowl (well more, I remember the super bowls shuffle) which happened within a couple days of each other. I think that was more a matter of I was not in school yet, we did not watch evening news at our house, and I was in bed before the nightly news. So, I think that is why I don't remember it.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Jun 3, 2013 16:24:01 GMT -5
You might be a few years older than me. I was born in late 81. I don't remember the Challenger explosion. I probably heard about it, but I wasn't old enough to be sitting in a classroom watching it live.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2013 16:25:22 GMT -5
I found some sites that cut off Gen X at 1976 and some later. I guess she is a late Gen X or an early Gen Y, depending on the source.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Jun 3, 2013 16:25:24 GMT -5
Homeland generation makes sense. 9/11 will be their world altering event to kick off the generation, since the 2000 switchover whatever turned out to be a non event.
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Post by Robert not Bobby on Jun 3, 2013 16:55:31 GMT -5
am supposedly a baby boomer. My husband was born in 1943, and he is not. I was born in 1954, and I am an "early" BB. That's just a reference. I think 1964 is the end.
You would think my children (I had a child at 23 and 25 so not exactly late in life) would be the next generation. But they aren't; the generation between me and them is Generation X, and they aren't doing so hot. My daughter and son are apparently Generation Y. Then there is Generation Millennium. And I am guessing that my grandkids are another generation.
That is so silly. Or does it serve a purpose that I don't know of? I do know that my kids didn't have computers and cellphones growing up, but is that now the great divider? I do know that many of the younger kids, including my grandkids, have never known what it is like not to have cellphones, computers, etc.
But is that the new definition of "generation" ? If so, it will quickly become every ten and then every five years. Sort of like the generations for cellphones.
How is that helpful from a sociological point of view? Or an economic one?
Should Generation X, who never got the BB's job, be rolling over and playing dead so that Generation Y can have the jobs they never got?
It just all sounds so silly.
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Whoa, Southern Susanna, pass me an iced tea, and we’ll sit on the porch and try to make some sense of this nonsense.
First of all, if your husband was born in 1943, he is not a baby boomer. The whole baby boomer phenomenon started when our men (well, boys) came home from Europe and the Far East in 1945, 46…they hitched up with their sweethearts and started making babies at a prodigious rate. So Baby Boomers are after the war…from about 1946 to the very early 60s...14 years is a generation.
When times were good, jobs were plentiful and it was a different country.
Now, my generation, born in the very late 60s to the early 80s, they call Gen X…I really don’t have any idea why, but mostly, we have done ok. Everyone else is having to be incredibly creative. I also have kids and I worry about their future.
Cell phones and computers don’t define a generation…age does, everything else happens around you.
After the millenniums there will be the teens…well, we are in the “teens”, why hasn’t someone coined a clever phrase for those being born now.?
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Post by muttleynfelix on Jun 3, 2013 17:04:48 GMT -5
You might be a few years older than me. I was born in late 81. I don't remember the Challenger explosion. I probably heard about it, but I wasn't old enough to be sitting in a classroom watching it live. Dang, I knew we were close in age, but our birthdays must be with in a month or two. It is crazy that your kids are half grown and mine are babies.
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Post by Angel! on Jun 3, 2013 17:05:34 GMT -5
You might be a few years older than me. I was born in late 81. I don't remember the Challenger explosion. I probably heard about it, but I wasn't old enough to be sitting in a classroom watching it live. I was born in early 80. I should say that I think I remember the Challenger explosion. I have a clear memory of certain parts, but what I have learned about flashbulb memories & the fact I would have been in kindergarten means that my memory is probably wrong in at least some ways.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Jun 3, 2013 17:43:27 GMT -5
You take that back right now! Mine are two thirds grown, thank you very much, and you ain't stealing my 16.66%
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Post by Opti on Jun 3, 2013 17:50:26 GMT -5
I'm surprised there is still many people who have different definitions on what ages the Boomers are. I agree with Robert it seems ridiculous to start before 1946 and I thought the end point had finally been fixed at 1964. I'm not sure if the demographics have been highly effected by deaths, but when looking at the Boomer birth years during the election season the biggest bulge in the Boom was after 1950. A significant bulge exists around 1958 into the 1960s which may be why the pundits kept debating the end point. I agree the Millenial definition is allover the map. Some people use it as a synonym for the Y generation, but I agree it really makes more sense to start the birth years at year 2000 etc. (Since the marketers or whomever can't seem to make up their minds I often wish they'd do something more useful - like come up with the colors for spring 2016 or the new finish to replace stainless steel in appliances. )
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Jun 3, 2013 18:14:24 GMT -5
It seems like pretty much everyone is in agreement with the Boomers being 1946 to 1964. That means X starts in 1965, however nobody seems to agree on where they end, Y begins, and where Y ends.
It also seems weird to me that they don't use the same size block of time for each generation. For example I've seen some researchers who put X as 1965 to 1980. So they're only a 15 year long generation while the boomers are 18. Then they have Y from 1980 to 2000, so they get 20 years. How the hell are you going to compare the sizes of different generations if they have significantly different numbers of years in each? Of course Gen X will seem small numbers wise if they only get 15 years worth of births while the following generation gets 20.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Jun 3, 2013 18:36:46 GMT -5
Shoot even the Boomers make no sense. Look at this graph of US birth rate. The red section is the so-called post war baby boom. The boom was already well under way during the war years. The rate of increase actually slowed a bit right as the war ended. It started falling off a cliff well before the end of the official baby boom. Going off that graph the baby boom generation should be from 1940 to 1958. Or maybe 45 to around 60.
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