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Post by mmhmm on May 29, 2013 23:15:34 GMT -5
I think we are since this is the first I've heard of this new rule and nobody has started a new one (thread). But it still goes on in every thread she posts on and I guess I don't see the difference. It's not a new rule. I can remember it coming up before I was a moderator. Don't remember who it involved, but I do remember moonbeam asking that it not be done. I'm also aware the insults (or "teasings" if that's what they are) are there in most "Doxie threads". They probably shouldn't be, but we can't be everywhere, unfortunately. I also know some of the comments have been hurtful. Seems to me it's about time that sort of thing was left behind. It's not buying anybody anything that I can see.
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Post by mmhmm on May 29, 2013 23:16:30 GMT -5
11,000! Yay! *fireworks splash across the night sky*
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Post by NastyWoman on May 29, 2013 23:18:43 GMT -5
And... 11,000!
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on May 29, 2013 23:24:30 GMT -5
Yay!! POM got to 11,000!!
<now you have to catch up to the champ>
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mmhmm
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Post by mmhmm on May 29, 2013 23:36:52 GMT -5
Yeah. Champ of carpal tunnel syndrome ...
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Post by Phoenix84 on May 30, 2013 0:19:16 GMT -5
Crap, all the message board drama happens when I'm on travel with limited internet access. Did lots of people leave or what? Did I miss something?
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Post by Virgil Showlion on May 30, 2013 5:34:54 GMT -5
The posts in the "tough justice for police" (I'll call it) thread had to go. The ToS forbids content that "incites, encourages or threatens physical harm against another". Of course we might just look the other way if... say... a poster was to add in snow leopards as a co-target of said physical harm. "Blimey! Gun 'em all down! Dem and da snow leopards!"Just sayin'...
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Post by The Captain on May 30, 2013 6:19:30 GMT -5
Actually for some of us that state exists regardless of whether or not PM's are used
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Post by The Captain on May 30, 2013 6:24:06 GMT -5
The posts in the "tough justice for police" (I'll call it) thread had to go. The ToS forbids content that "incites, encourages or threatens physical harm against another". Of course we might just look the other way if... say... a poster was to add in snow leopards as a co-target of said physical harm. "Blimey! Gun 'em all down! Dem and da snow leopards!"Just sayin'...
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May 30, 2013 6:37:18 GMT -5
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Post by swamp on May 30, 2013 6:37:18 GMT -5
Oh lordy - did princess get offended and asked for the thread to be deleted? Only of Steve is the princess.
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Post by The Captain on May 30, 2013 8:13:03 GMT -5
MM - I was going to comment to @virgil Songbird the same thing - I seem to recall from a prior thread that the Mods don't see when a thread is locked?
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May 30, 2013 8:16:04 GMT -5
Post by chiver78 on May 30, 2013 8:16:04 GMT -5
no, we see the same lock on the thread icon as you do. whether or not that actually registers in a mod's line of sight, or whether the thread gets locked while someone is posting (which has happened to me), sometimes it happens. I did pull the comment you are both referring to, since it really isn't fair that none of you can answer in a locked thread. hope that helps some -chiver mod
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May 30, 2013 8:17:04 GMT -5
Post by midjd on May 30, 2013 8:17:04 GMT -5
I was under the impression that they can see locked threads, but that sometimes mods will 'inadvertently' post on a locked thread because the thread was locked while they were in the process of composing a reply. At least that's the explanation I remembered - I could be wrong. Chiver - I noticed that, thanks.
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Post by thyme4change on May 30, 2013 8:17:47 GMT -5
I take one day off...
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Post by midjd on May 30, 2013 8:19:05 GMT -5
I take one day off... We need you here to keep order! Things go completely off the rails when you're gone!
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2013 8:20:25 GMT -5
why are we still calling names? Post removed by moon.
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Post by thyme4change on May 30, 2013 8:20:51 GMT -5
No joke! I guess I am the heart and soul of this board. Poor board.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2013 8:37:20 GMT -5
I didn't see Steve ask to have his thread deleted. It was all his posts that kept getting deleted and he got banned.
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Post by chiver78 on May 30, 2013 8:51:53 GMT -5
you didn't see steve ask for his stuff to be deleted because he didn't. he deleted his own posts, which all of you have the right and ability to do for yourselves.
when enough of a thread has been deleted that none of it makes sense, we remove that thread to an admin-only area. this is nothing new, later. please don't try to spin it as a conspiracy of sorts.
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Post by mmhmm on May 30, 2013 9:08:25 GMT -5
MM - I was going to comment to @virgil Songbird the same thing - I seem to recall from a prior thread that the Mods don't see when a thread is locked? The staff can see if a thread is locked. Problem is, we're all just human and we don't always notice a thread is locked. You, as posters, will know it's locked without seeing the little lock icon because your post won't go through. We can merrily post away without realizing the thread is locked until afterwards. It's also happened that a member of staff will post while the thread is in the process of being locked. This isn't often done on purpose. It's just an error. Occasionally, moonbeam may post after a thread is locked in order to clarify something. The rest of us really try not to do so. We aren't the enemy, folks. Honest, we aren't. We are familiar with ProBoards' ToS and know we must uphold it to keep the boards. We also know we are responsible to see our CoC is respected. It may not be clear to each of you why we make a decision to do something, but we rarely make such a decision in a vacuum. It's usually discussed among us behind the scenes. I've made the decision to take an action and moonbeam has later reversed my decision. Any of us can be wrong, but it's better (in my eyes) to act if you're in doubt than to sit around twiddling your thumbs waiting for someone else to make a decision. If it's the wrong decision, it can be rectified. Ultimately, ProBoards and moonbeam are "the boss". We're just the worker bees and this community is important to us, just as it is to you. I'm always glad to get input on how things are going, suggestions on how something might be done better (I'll pass those on), and feedback on my performance here. I've got a very thick hide, so you're not going to hurt my feelings or make me angry by letting me know if you feel I'm out of line. Thing is, such a discussion isn't for the open forums. If you're bent out of shape at me, it's between you and me and not something everybody needs to be in on. It's a lot better to try to work out kinks between us through PMs than to duke it out on the boards. Think about your workplace. If you have a disagreement with a workmate, do you take it up with that person openly, in front of the whole staff? Normally, that's frowned upon, isn't it? It's disruptive. See if you can work it out with the person first. Then, if changes result, those changes can be brought through to the rest of the staff in the office and everyone benefits without a bunch of draaaammmmaaa. I've babbled on enough. Just wanted to let you all know you're "heard" and your opinions do matter. Sometimes, though, there are things you don't know, or don't completely understand from all angles. Please, just try asking one of us first before you decide we're "out to get you". We're really not.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2013 9:57:58 GMT -5
chiver I was responding to MJ calling him a dick for being a princess and asking to have the thread deleted. I didn't say a thing about a conspiracy. BTW that namecalling is still there. You actually skipped over it to dig at me.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on May 30, 2013 10:02:31 GMT -5
No joke! I guess I am the heart and soul of this board. Poor board. Well, at least that means the board has the heart and soul We could do worse....
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Post by Virgil Showlion on May 30, 2013 10:15:37 GMT -5
I also hate it when mods continue to post on locked threads when no one else can respond. And you wonder why people get upset with some of the moderating that goes on. Yes, I'm looking at you Virgil. I did that... what... twice? In 2.5 years? 95% of the time, I access threads through the 'participated' menu (or previously through the NMSNM Quickbar, which was the same thing). It doesn't indicate a thread is locked. Once you're on the thread itself, there's no indication that it's locked. Boy you guys hold deep grudges.
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Post by justme on May 30, 2013 10:18:26 GMT -5
chiver I was responding to MJ calling him a dick for being a princess and asking to have the thread deleted. I didn't say a thing about a conspiracy. BTW that namecalling is still there. You actually skipped over it to dig at me. Actually on the thread in question the mods deleted most of what Steve said and, uh, Steve wasn't around long enough to delete much himself.
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Post by mmhmm on May 30, 2013 10:21:42 GMT -5
I also hate it when mods continue to post on locked threads when no one else can respond. And you wonder why people get upset with some of the moderating that goes on. Yes, I'm looking at you Virgil. I did that... what... twice? In 2.5 years? 95% of the time, I access threads through the 'participated' menu (or previously through the NMSNM Quickbar, which was the same thing). It doesn't indicate a thread is locked. Once you're on the thread itself, there's no indication that it's locked. Boy you guys hold deep grudges. The little lock icon shows at the top of a locked thread if you enter through the "Participated" menu; however, it's not easy to see unless you're looking for it. Because the boards don't reject the posts of staff to a locked thread, we're not aware the thread is locked unless we see the icon.
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Post by mmhmm on May 30, 2013 10:25:27 GMT -5
chiver I was responding to MJ calling him a dick for being a princess and asking to have the thread deleted. I didn't say a thing about a conspiracy. BTW that namecalling is still there. You actually skipped over it to dig at me. Actually on the thread in question the mods deleted most of what Steve said and, uh, Steve wasn't around long enough to delete much himself. This is correct. I deleted steve's posts in his most recent thread because they were in violation of ProBoards' ToS. Speculation as to whether any poster asked the thread be deleted is just that ... pure speculation. That's really not serving anyone.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2013 10:28:35 GMT -5
The part where he is called a dick for that speculation is still there. BTW I am not criticizing the moderating of that thread and I didn't even see the doxie thread so I have no idea.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2013 10:31:11 GMT -5
since my 3-word post is really that interesting, I'd like to clarify that my comment was referring to the hate-filled drivel he posted in his thread about cops. And I stand by my comment so if it's really that offensive, the mods can delete it.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on May 30, 2013 10:48:38 GMT -5
I just found out that the police thread was locked. I was wondering why people were picking on me. But chiver deleted my post. It was a fine post, and I spent many a laboured minute crafting it, only to have it cruelly ripped from the world. You should all be feeling sorry for me. After reading this and exhaustively scanning the page: success! Wow is that ever something I'm not going to look for every single time I go into a thread. Fortunately, Proboards 5 offers "Virgil Mode" in my profile settings: Much better. Leave it to the engineers.
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Post by Rocky Mtn Saver on May 30, 2013 10:49:26 GMT -5
To the Virgil Mode!
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