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Post by Miss Tequila on May 13, 2013 9:56:18 GMT -5
I also have to buy a book for my job. I am totally not interested in reading it. I'm expected to read it on my free time. It totally sucks. I am expected to read 3 books a year. All of which are these stupid books with some lame theory on how to be a better employee. I have a whole bookshelf full of this crap. I'm glad my company is keeping the publishing industry alive. Sounds like we work for the same company...except I have to read 4 a year...
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Post by midjd on May 13, 2013 9:57:05 GMT -5
I paid for them myself when I was an Asst. DA making $30k a year. Yeah, our CLE requirements are the same whether you're a firm partner or unemployed... and especially for the younger attorneys, a lot more fall into the latter category than the former. I don't think any "professional" profession is exempt from these sorts of requirements. If you're really lucky, you can get an employer who picks up those extra costs, but most of us don't work for those sorts of places.
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Post by swamp on May 13, 2013 9:58:41 GMT -5
I paid for them myself when I was an Asst. DA making $30k a year. Yeah, our CLE requirements are the same whether you're a firm partner or unemployed... and especially for the younger attorneys, a lot more fall into the latter category than the former. I don't think any "professional" profession is exempt from these sorts of requirements. If you're really lucky, you can get an employer who picks up those extra costs, but most of us don't work for those sorts of places. NY also requires the new attorneys to go to the live seminars, they can't do webinars or video replays, so that often requires travel, and they're more expensive than the webinars.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 10:01:59 GMT -5
I think I'm mostly just bummed because I thought this thread was going to be recommendations for good summer reading
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Post by thyme4change on May 13, 2013 10:49:03 GMT -5
I think I'm mostly just bummed because I thought this thread was going to be recommendations for good summer reading That's what I thought too. All the talk about great books, and the worst books, etc, has gotten me excited to do a little summer reading with the kids. I'm taking wrongside's suggestion and getting an audio book for me and the kids for the first couple weeks of summer. It will probably crush my son's soul - but meh, that's what parenting is all about, right?
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 10:50:54 GMT -5
What stuff do they like? I could recommend some.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 10:53:07 GMT -5
My son actually came to like reading thru audiobooks. I remember the first time I wasn't allowed to stop the car till the chapter was done. And the first time he decided, forget waiting for the rest of you, I'm just going to pull the book off the shelf and finish it myself...
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Post by thyme4change on May 13, 2013 10:57:22 GMT -5
What stuff do they like? I could recommend some. My son likes dumb comedy - so he reads all the Captain Underpants and Diary of a Wimpy Kid type of books. His last book was The Fantastic Secret of Owen Jester. He seemed to like that. I'm hoping that is a new door that has opened that will take us into a broader range of stories. My daughter is very girly - her books are about fairies and horses and stuff like that. She was a great reader, but she seems to have slowed down. I think she goes in waves. I'm not too worried about her, but would love it if all three of us could experience the same book (that's why I was thinking audio) and discuss it.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 11:05:24 GMT -5
My kids love the "My Weird School/My Weirder School/My Weird School Daze" books. I think my kids are younger than yours so they may be too "babyish" for yours.
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Post by muttleynfelix on May 13, 2013 11:05:27 GMT -5
Yeah, our CLE requirements are the same whether you're a firm partner or unemployed... and especially for the younger attorneys, a lot more fall into the latter category than the former. I don't think any "professional" profession is exempt from these sorts of requirements. If you're really lucky, you can get an employer who picks up those extra costs, but most of us don't work for those sorts of places. NY also requires the new attorneys to go to the live seminars, they can't do webinars or video replays, so that often requires travel, and they're more expensive than the webinars. Our webinars are ungodly expensive. If I can find something fairly close, they are usually cheaper - $200 for a 2 day seminar (Usually 12 PDHs) vs $200 for 2 PDH webinar. Sure there are travel expenses, but not that much. Last week, we had a training seminar in town which was great a day and a half for 10 PDHs and I actually learned something new that will use in the next couple years. I actually have my PDHs for the year, but my boss wants us to go to another seminar in town later this month. My vote is no, that we are too busy, but I'll do what the boss wants. The seminar we went to in April was awful and it was just under 2 hrs away so we commuted to it.
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Post by milee on May 13, 2013 11:11:45 GMT -5
AAAGHHH!! Typed all this once before and ProBoards lost it. Dang.
Anyway, I've been fairly happy with the summer reading suggestions at my son's school. If it's helpful, here thye are:
GR 3-5: Candymakers (Maas) Double Dog Dare (Graff) Fake Mustache:... Mastermind (Angleberger) Five Lives of our Cat Zook (Rocklin) Floors (Carman) Glory Be (Scattergood) Janitors (Whitesides) Melonhead (Kelly) Mousenet (Breitrose) One and Only Ivan (Applegate) Thomas and the Dragon Queen (Crum) Touch Blue (Lord) Waiting for the Magic (MacLachlan) Wish Stealers (Trivas) Year of the Book (Cheng)
GR 6-8: Chomp (Hiassen) Cinder (Meyer) Circus Galacticus (Fagan) Dead Boys (Buckingham) False Prince (Nielsen) Free Thaddeaus! (Gosselink Girl Who Threw Butterflies (Cochrane) Legend (Lu) Milo: Sticky Notes and Brain Freeze (Silberberg) Okay for Now (Schmidt) One for the Murphys (Hunt) Starters (Price) Under the Green Hill (Sullivan) Warp Speed (Yee) Wonder (Palacio)
Gr 9-12: Ashes (Bick) Don't Turn Around (Gagnon) Every Day (Levithan) Everybody Sees the Ants (King) Foult in our Stars (Green) Healing (Odel) Latte Rebellion (Stevenson) Outcasts United.... Town (St John) Pregnancy Project (Rodriguez) Raven Boys (Stiefvater) Seraphina (Harman) STarters (Price) Steel (Vaughn) Ten Miles Past Normal (Dowell) Virtuosity (Martinez)
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Post by milee on May 13, 2013 11:13:30 GMT -5
Oh, and if I need suggestions, I also google the Newberry Award winners. They're always good.
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Post by milee on May 13, 2013 11:15:23 GMT -5
What stuff do they like? I could recommend some. My son likes dumb comedy - so he reads all the Captain Underpants and Diary of a Wimpy Kid type of books. His last book was The Fantastic Secret of Owen Jester. He seemed to like that. I'm hoping that is a new door that has opened that will take us into a broader range of stories. My daughter is very girly - her books are about fairies and horses and stuff like that. She was a great reader, but she seems to have slowed down. I think she goes in waves. I'm not too worried about her, but would love it if all three of us could experience the same book (that's why I was thinking audio) and discuss it. Thyme, they're not literary masterpieces, but if you're looking for fun books that would appeal to both your son and daughter, you might want to check out the Xanth novels by Piers Anthony. They're a mix of myth, puns, adventure and magic. Very fun reads and good for kids that age. I really loved them as a kid.
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Post by teen persuasion on May 13, 2013 11:15:42 GMT -5
You could also ask about inter-library loans. Your library might be willing to bring in a book available at a sister library for you. If you are a member this is often free of charge. I'll second this. My library doesn't have copies of the 3rd & 4th books on your list, but I found 18-25 copies in the system that I could interloan, some on cd and playaway. You could also go in to your local library and explain the situation. Patrons can request that their library purchase specific books. The library does not have to buy it, but will if they believe there is enough interest. If I knew all the teachers in the district had to read x book, and their students might also read it in coming semesters, you bet I'd add it to the collection. Anything over 6 circs is a good buy.
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Post by swamp on May 13, 2013 11:17:21 GMT -5
anyone see the irony of an english teacher complaining about having to read things she doesn't want to read? It's like her students wished this on her.
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Post by thyme4change on May 13, 2013 11:17:21 GMT -5
I'm going to get Five Lives of our Cat Zook (Rocklin) My kids are the same demographic as the kids in the story, and we are a cat loving family. We also have 2 cats that are elderly, so we are going to have to deal with the death of a beloved cat very soon (and the death of that other one, too. ) The fact that the book is about a cat, and a girl and a boy will make the book immediately desirable. I've written down the rest of the list, too.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 13, 2013 11:18:54 GMT -5
I enjoy Percy Jackson and the Olympians. It doesn't have fairies but it has pegasuses (horses), nympths and other pretty girly mythological stuff as well as being good action books.
I just finished reading all 5 books for the umpteenth time. I need to suck it up and just buy the series.
I'm also reading the second series The Lost Olympians which is kinda the sequel to the Percy Jackson novels. I think they're even better. Can't wait till the fourth book comes out.
The author is Rick Riordan. He also has another YA series about the Egyptian Gods but I haven't read that one yet.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 11:39:57 GMT -5
anyone see the irony of an english teacher complaining about having to read things she doesn't want to read? It's like her students wished this on her. I saw the irony immediately. That's why I came whining to you guys instead of my students. However, I am mostly whining about the cost. I have let my kids talk me into reading something they want to read. That's only fair if we have time for it within the curriculum. That's why I read The Hobbit in the first place. This year's choices were actually selected by the students from a list of 32 nominated by various committees of teachers.
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Post by thyme4change on May 13, 2013 11:42:17 GMT -5
We found a solution that would bring that cost down to ~$25. Want us to take up a collection?
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Post by swamp on May 13, 2013 11:42:38 GMT -5
I think forcing the teachers to read something chosen by the students is an excellent idea. It makes them feel like they have some input and they're probably more engaged when they feel like their input matters.
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Post by swamp on May 13, 2013 11:44:18 GMT -5
We found a solution that would bring that cost down to ~$25. Want us to take up a collection? I'll be willing to toss in $5.
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Post by teen persuasion on May 13, 2013 11:51:11 GMT -5
anyone see the irony of an english teacher complaining about having to read things she doesn't want to read? It's like her students wished this on her. I had a similar thought, but I completely understand it. DH is a HS Eng teacher and lots of the same themes keep coming up. Not all teachers are well paid (DH makes under $35k, after 12 years); administrators keep wanting more from you, yet you get less in return; changes to curriculum/standards/expectations turning things upside down; end of the school year crazy season is upon us and the kids are tuning out. I also think this ties into the Worst books thread. The common theme there is that the worst books an individual has read are ones that they were forced to read by someone in authority, usually when they were in school. After graduation, few people finish books that do not appeal to them. The books that one person hated, another poster loved, and vice versa. I've been thinking about that thread and discussing it with DH. The books I'd add to the list are ones that he enjoyed and some that he uses in his classroom. My favorite authors and books he abhors. Different tastes.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 11:57:58 GMT -5
Inkheart might appeal to them both as well. What ages again? I second Rick Riordan. I'll try to get a list together.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 11:59:04 GMT -5
Your sister was allowed to teach Running With Scissors to her HS class? WOW. Now I am not one to want to censor books at all, but I am surprised that a parent didn't have a shit fit over this one. I know I will not ever be able to look at hair cholesterol treatment the same after reading it... yep. the health teacher taught "Kids" too. they have a lot more freedom at a private school to teach what they want, as long as there is a good academic reason for it. I don't think she taught RWS to freshmen, if that makes you feel a little better about it. I personally do not have an issue with the book. I am just surprised that another parent hasn't freaked out. I mean...parents freaked out over Anne Franks Diary! I actually thought the book was hilarious. I just never heard a teacher using it in school.
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Post by thyme4change on May 13, 2013 12:05:02 GMT -5
Inkheart might appeal to them both as well. What ages again? I second Rick Riordan. I'll try to get a list together. They will be 9 and 11 soon. At the end of this week, they will officially be 4th and 5th graders.
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Post by Miss Tequila on May 13, 2013 12:24:18 GMT -5
anyone see the irony of an english teacher complaining about having to read things she doesn't want to read? It's like her students wished this on her. BAHAHAHAHA...I didn't think about it until you mentioned it...
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Post by chiver78 on May 13, 2013 13:26:03 GMT -5
yep. the health teacher taught "Kids" too. they have a lot more freedom at a private school to teach what they want, as long as there is a good academic reason for it. I don't think she taught RWS to freshmen, if that makes you feel a little better about it. I personally do not have an issue with the book. I am just surprised that another parent hasn't freaked out. I mean...parents freaked out over Anne Franks Diary! I actually thought the book was hilarious. I just never heard a teacher using it in school. for whatever reason, the parents at this school tend to be a lot more laid-back about topics taught in English classes. it's a school for kids with learning disabilities, so it almost seems like they are okay with anything that will help their child learn. many of the kids have bounced around from school to school and finally find their way to this one, where most of them flourish.
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Post by saveinla on May 13, 2013 13:26:19 GMT -5
Inkheart might appeal to them both as well. What ages again? I second Rick Riordan. I'll try to get a list together. They will be 9 and 11 soon. At the end of this week, they will officially be 4th and 5th graders. Inkheart is a great book to read at that age. My son also read Erragon in grade 4. He really like the books and then graduated to Percy the Olympian books.
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Post by thyme4change on May 13, 2013 13:29:51 GMT -5
Neither of my kids get excited about adventure books. I would hope they would get into them if they are forced to read them, but if offered a selection, adventure wouldn't be their top choice, or in the top 5. I don't know why. Same with movies. They don't get excited to watch any action or adventure movies. I forced them to see Rise of the Guardians - they liked the part where the Easter Bunny was turned into a tiny baby bunny.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 13, 2013 13:34:17 GMT -5
What about Doctor Proctor's Fart Powder books? Book #2 is more of a "girl" book, IMO. You don't have to read them in order either, they hold up as individual books. I read #3 first. I didn't get some of the Norwegian references but the books are fast reads and pretty funny. I have an immature sense of humor so it should be right up a 8-9 year old's alley. Plus "fart" is in the title, that should at least get them to sit up a little.
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