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Post by zibazinski on May 1, 2013 7:32:30 GMT -5
Dream house, on the water with a boat dock in back, with a boat! 4 bedrooms, 2-3 baths, large great room area for entertaining. Obviously in Florida!
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thyme4change
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Post by thyme4change on May 1, 2013 7:47:34 GMT -5
I've wondered if that furniture actually stays in the house, or if they basically use a staging company for the "big reveal" and then the owners bring their own tattered couch in after the cameras are packed up. Here is what I know... 1) They already bought the house before they go on the show. 2) The contractor isn't likely running the crew. 3) The plans and "decision" day is probably done after the whole remodel is complete. I'm sorry there is no way that their plans have the exact finishes of every surface completely nailed down for the initial presentation. 4) Probably most of the shopping scenes are filmed after the remodel is complete (maybe.) But for sure, that isn't when they actually make the decision. 5) The timeline is totally inaccurate. Absolutely no way you remodel a whole in 4 weeks and come in on time every single time. Shit - it took me 6 weeks just to get the tile ordered for my bathroom. 6) The budget is likely inaccurate, or at least not out of pocket. I suspect they get free stuff from the "additional consideration provided by..." list at the end of the show. Where do you get your info? I agree that decision day has to be a dramatization. But why fake all the other stuff? The reasons they do this are 1) They are on a budget. They aren't going to pay their host to go running around for 6 months showing houses, and filming it all. Plus, they can't go into random houses and film. They have to get permission and do a lot of set-up. So, they find someone who has purchased a house, and then do a quick film of that house and a couple other houses which are handpicked. The guy I know used his friend's house as one of the rejected house. It wasn't even for sale. This makes it so they can film the entire "shopping for houses" shoot in one day - maybe two. 2) The "contractors" are paid to be hosts and personalities. They are expensive - you don't need them to actually work for 4 solid weeks (or 6 or 12) on a house, swinging a hammer. You get an average joe in there doing the work, and then you film them once every few days, standing there, looking all pretty and holding a hammer. What I will say may happen with property brothers, is that there is one contractor who works all the jobs, and when he gets a call to bid a house in a certain profile, he calls HGTV and offers up the clients. I also wouldn't be surprised if that firm belonged to Drew Scott. I do believe that Love it or List it does it that way, using the company that the guy with the crazy hair owns. He isn't a big personality. Then they stick Hillary in and pretend she is running the show. 3) You already conceded decision day. 4) Same as reason 1. You can't just wander around, walking into stores and shop with camera crews. The lighting has to be perfect, the aisles have to be set up in a perfect way to have room. There are never any other customers in there. That is all scoped out ahead of time, and planned and staged. 5) That is just my bias. It sounds like people have done kitchens in 4 weeks. But I still don't think that they would actually be able to do every single job well in the exact time frame. Just based on my experience with remodeling and contractors. 6) There is a list of "Other Considerations" at the end of the show. I can only guess what considerations a dishwasher manufacturer would give when a kitchen model was done publicly. Maybe they donate some drywall or something. ![](http://images.proboards.com/new/wink.png)
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thyme4change
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Post by thyme4change on May 1, 2013 10:09:36 GMT -5
I did some research. The Scott Brothers define themselves as actors, and were actively working in the entertainment industry as performers and producers. Their older brother is a magician in Vegas, and their father was a character actor. They decided to flip a house to see if they could make enough profit to fund an independent film they wanted to produce. They found that their side business of real estate could fund their entertainment dreams. They both became licensed real estate agents. Although the one guy is a licensed contractor, I can't find much about that. I assume he got the contractor's license to flip houses, but I can't say. There is no mention about him doing work on anyone else's house, or ever having clients or any revenue stream as a contractor. The show is produced by the production company that the twins own. They created the show, own the show, run the show and sell it to HGTV.
I maintain that they are way too busy to be standing around cutting 2x4s when the camera is not rolling.
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Post by Waffle on May 1, 2013 10:13:25 GMT -5
WHAT ![](http://images.proboards.com/new/huh.gif) ??!!!!!! Jonathan and Drew have been lying to me? I can live with that. I still like the show.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2013 10:13:37 GMT -5
![](http://images.proboards.com/new/sad.png) Awww, I like that show. And Love It or List It.
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thyme4change
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Post by thyme4change on May 1, 2013 10:16:58 GMT -5
Love it or list it is the worst!
I like property brothers, I just know I'm watching a staged event. The people do actually buy a house and do a renovation. Just because they bought it with some other real estate agent and then pretended to be all horrified by the prospect of the reno - meh, whatever. And just because the crew is likely far more pedestrian looking than super-hottie...I'll take the fantasy they give me. It's all good!
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