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Post by SweetVirginia on Feb 12, 2011 1:09:44 GMT -5
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Post by SweetVirginia on Feb 12, 2011 1:10:32 GMT -5
Understood Tenn. No problem.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 12, 2011 1:12:39 GMT -5
Sweet-edit out the quote and reference to the poster's name and reply 190 may stay.
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Post by burnsattornincan on Feb 12, 2011 10:19:32 GMT -5
What the hell is the problem now? Can I not say anything about the current demographics in the US and elsewhere? Tell me what was demeaning in any way about my post. Maybe it was "demeaning" to the US itself but that shouldn't count. What a farce.
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 12, 2011 11:45:35 GMT -5
People who do not reproduce eventually die out. That is why a society such as Sparta, with an overwhelmingly homosexual orientation due to their practice of taking boys from their mothers young and sexually initiating them in the barracks by older men, had to force their warriors to marry. Without this coercion, Sparta would have been extinct. You are all railing on the irresponsible poor. No, they have just chosen life over death. You would prefer they die too and they are not doing it. If American industry decides that workers cannot afford any children, will you go along with that too? Sparta fell as a powerful State because Athens and neighboring states and the hugh lower class that they abused for cnturies..a peiple they had concored..I forget their name..got it , the "Helot"..went to war against them..and they never were able to recover. ------------------------------------------------ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparta
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Post by henryclay on Feb 12, 2011 13:14:51 GMT -5
There is a very explicit video that tells us what we face re: the world's population explosion. It says that while we take in a million a year, the undeveloped nations are making an additional 80 million.
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There is another video that explains why Caucasians are becoming a world minority. And our own Congressman Luis Gutierrez said it last year during the Mexican Cinco de Mayo celebrations. He said words to the effect that "We don't have to do anything. They are not having babies".
See a video of what is happening world wide:
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Post by b2r on Feb 12, 2011 13:16:13 GMT -5
Want to be more like the EU? "Multiculturalism has failed." With three fatal words in her speech addressed to young members of her Christian Democratic Union party on 15 October, Angela Merkel has reignited the debate on Islam which has divided Germany in recent months. ""We feel tied to Christian values. Those who don't accept them don't have a place here," said the chancellor. www.presseurop.eu/en/content/article/364091-mutti-merkel-handbags-multikultiLONDON — Faced with growing alarm about Islamic militants who have made Britain one of Europe’s most active bases for terrorist plots, Prime Minister David Cameron has mounted an attack on the country’s decades-old policy of “multiculturalism,” saying it has encouraged “segregated communities” where Islamic extremism can thrive. www.nytimes.com/2011/02/06/world/europe/06britain.html(Reuters) - French President Nicolas Sarkozy has declared multiculturalism a failure, echoing British Prime Minister David Cameron and German Chancellor Angela Merkel and confusing some French who say it was never tried here anyway. www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/11/us-france-sarkozy-multiculturalism-idUSTRE71A4UP20110211
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 12, 2011 14:44:41 GMT -5
Considering that today in the States it is not unusual that what was not a happening say fifty years ago but is common/usual today, with little thought given to it by so many.
Couples/people marrying with who ever, race , back ground being incidental for so many, accepted as a matter of course.
With more diverse peoples coming into the country, legally by the way, before , hugh immigration populations came too, but so many from the same cultural and racial background as before, many times because of national quotas.
It's not surprissing as to the demographics today in race and more in the future and for those who think it's going to be the down fall of the society.., LOL, what can one say.
Get a life, move, lament ...are a few adjectives that I can think of but the reality is it is a fact and it is not changing and we will prosper or not, but not because of this happening.
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Post by burnsattornincan on Feb 12, 2011 16:32:52 GMT -5
Finally. Hopefully this is just the beginning of the unwinding of damaging policies in these countries, as well as here, that have been prevalent for the last 50 odd years.
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 12, 2011 19:32:23 GMT -5
Do you think he's wrong when he says, "We don't have to do anything, they're not having babies?" Re-read some of the more poisonous posts on this site sometimes. It is not a given that all poor people remain so either. Many of today's leading families are descended from yesterday's guttersnipes. Read, "The Great Gatsby" or the "Godfather" saga for a fictionalized portrait of this process. A really entertaining history would be a look at how some of the Texas oil fortunes were started. One wildcatter who became a leading oil man took his wife's money, successfully parlayed it into a small grubstake at a card game and drilled the well that made his fortune. Imagine what anyone would think of him if that well was dry. I would suggest 95 % and I am being generouse of those who came before us had poor bathing habits, didn't have a proverbial pot to p in, beyond a few $ sent to them by families already here, needed disinfection that was given them, spoke no English..those who were living a good life , why come?
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Feb 12, 2011 19:35:27 GMT -5
I told you people a long time ago that in a couple of generations there would be no white people left in AZ. Most people in Tucson are brown, which means most white girls are with brown boys, and having white/ brown kids. I have 3 of those babies in my family, from 3 different kids of mine. So far--(I have one single child left)-- the blond hair and green/blue eyes is gone from the long, long line of blond/blue/green in my family. I have 3 beautiful brown eyed, brown haired, pale skinned granddaughters with a Latino parent. Kind of sad, to me. I hope the entire USA does not turn brown and brown. That would be boring, and then where will be the diversity. Whatever-- I love my grandbabies, and my in-law kids, even if they don't have the coloring of generations past. Not sure what will go on the school forms about race, and that sort of stuff. What ARE my grandchildren? I will strongly urge my children to identify their children on paperwork as-- in CAPS- AMERICAN. Translation: "I love my grandchildren even though they are brown and I hope my white child marries another white so I'll have a white grandchild"....."I don't understand why this sounds racist"... Wow!
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Post by vonnie6200 on Feb 12, 2011 20:20:26 GMT -5
I told you people a long time ago that in a couple of generations there would be no white people left in AZ. Most people in Tucson are brown, which means most white girls are with brown boys, and having white/ brown kids. I have 3 of those babies in my family, from 3 different kids of mine. So far--(I have one single child left)-- the blond hair and green/blue eyes is gone from the long, long line of blond/blue/green in my family. I have 3 beautiful brown eyed, brown haired, pale skinned granddaughters with a Latino parent. Kind of sad, to me. I hope the entire USA does not turn brown and brown. That would be boring, and then where will be the diversity. Whatever-- I love my grandbabies, and my in-law kids, even if they don't have the coloring of generations past. Not sure what will go on the school forms about race, and that sort of stuff. What ARE my grandchildren? I will strongly urge my children to identify their children on paperwork as-- in CAPS- AMERICAN. Translation: "I love my grandchildren even though they are brown and I hope my white child marries another white so I'll have a white grandchild"....."I don't understand why this sounds racist"... Wow! This is a tad harsh
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Post by SweetVirginia on Feb 13, 2011 0:16:05 GMT -5
I told you people a long time ago that in a couple of generations there would be no white people left in AZ. Most people in Tucson are brown, which means most white girls are with brown boys, and having white/ brown kids. I have 3 of those babies in my family, from 3 different kids of mine. So far--(I have one single child left)-- the blond hair and green/blue eyes is gone from the long, long line of blond/blue/green in my family. I have 3 beautiful brown eyed, brown haired, pale skinned granddaughters with a Latino parent. Kind of sad, to me. I hope the entire USA does not turn brown and brown. That would be boring, and then where will be the diversity. Whatever-- I love my grandbabies, and my in-law kids, even if they don't have the coloring of generations past. Not sure what will go on the school forms about race, and that sort of stuff. What ARE my grandchildren? I will strongly urge my children to identify their children on paperwork as-- in CAPS- AMERICAN. Translation: "I love my grandchildren even though they are brown and I hope my white child marries another white so I'll have a white grandchild"....."I don't understand why this sounds racist"... Wow! There is no translation needed. krickitt loves her grandbabies and if her youngest white child marries a Latino, and she has a half Latino baby, krickitt willl adore that baby too. She feels the way progressives feel in that diversity is good and she would like diversity in her own family, including white grandbabies. That does not make her a racist.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Feb 13, 2011 10:51:58 GMT -5
Translation: "I love my grandchildren even though they are brown and I hope my white child marries another white so I'll have a white grandchild"....."I don't understand why this sounds racist"... Wow! There is no translation needed. krickitt loves her grandbabies and if her youngest white child marries a Latino, and she has a half Latino baby, krickitt willl adore that baby too. She feels the way progressives feel in that diversity is good and she would like diversity in her own family, including white grandbabies. That does not make her a racist. I didn't call her a racist. She stated that she was "sad"(her words, not mine) that her grandbabies were 1/2 brown. She also stated that she hoped her remaining white child would marry a white. She said she didn't understand why her statements sounded racist to some...... All I said was "Wow!!!
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Post by burnsattornincan on Feb 13, 2011 11:15:33 GMT -5
She said she didn't understand why her statements sounded racist to some......
Actually I don't understand it either but if I keep typing this message will disappear.
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Post by marjar on Feb 13, 2011 11:22:39 GMT -5
Krickitt tends to post in stream of consciousness style. I think she sometimes fails to post all her thoughts, and we read truncated versions, which can give the wrong impressions.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2011 11:23:36 GMT -5
Thanks, sweet, but don't bother. If they want to call me a racist, that is their narrow-mindedness, not mine. After all these years of not agreeing with Obama policy I am used to it. You give me faith in liberals, sweet, my friend!! You really have no idea how often I think of you when trying to figure tough things out. You and I seem to agree that everything is NOT left or right, and there is common ground. I really don't know why anyone has an issue with me wanting DIVERSITY to continue. I like the differences in Americans, and if that is racist, well, I guess I am a racist.
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 13, 2011 11:26:32 GMT -5
There is no translation needed. krickitt loves her grand babies and if her youngest white child marries a Latino, and she has a half Latino baby, krickitt Will adore that baby too. She feels the way progressives feel in that diversity is good and she would like diversity in her own family, including white grand babies. That does not make her a racist. I didn't call her a racist. She stated that she was "sad"(her words, not mine) that her grand babies were 1/2 brown. She also stated that she hoped her remaining white child would marry a white. She said she didn't understand why her statements sounded racist to some...... All I said was "Wow!!! I know it's hard for some here to have a sense of humor here , just possible her statement was said in just,,a tongue in cheek response among friends over a cup of Joe as they schmooze and chat. The problem is , she forgot she is not among friends just schmoozing just saying what comes to mind with body language, smiles , the winks that allow one to communicate with friends as to where one is coming from. Every word read here is examined for hidden content..there are a lot here who walk around with a stick placed some where in their anatomy and their sense of humor resolves in the pulling wings... Krickett , I understood exactly where your coming from, Your no more a raciest in any way then you would be one of those who would consider the wing thing and definitely there is NO stick anywhere in your anatomy...just remember in future , friends here, for the most part ? Think more like vultures ready to pounce at any possible showing of a weakness ...then it's ZAP... As far as responding to some of the above..I wouldn't bother , but thats just my opinion kid.
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 14, 2011 1:23:41 GMT -5
Ed, your post was deleted for bashing.. you know the process for complaints now. Please use it.
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Post by safeharbor37 on Feb 14, 2011 13:36:02 GMT -5
Re: Krickett's comment regarding her grandchildren. I put that in the same category as someone who says they'd like to have a son [or a daughter]. Would you call that sexist? The racist thing has been out of hand for some time. It is, and has been, to the point that [some] people are afraid to express their opinion. I heard Hannity remarking about someone being called racist and said [I'm paraphrasing], "That's the worst thing you can call someone." Really? I guess that makes child molesters feel better. Just about everyone is racist to some extent, particularly blacks, Jews, and other "minorities." I feel strongly that it's not how you feel, but how you act on those feelings [jmho]. Anyway, I think that its' the old, "When you point at someone else, three fingers are pointing back at you." that describes what's going on. If Obama was suppose to issue in a "post-racial" society, he's failed miserably [or, more accurately, the closet racists have succeeded splendidly].
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2011 13:38:52 GMT -5
Well said, safe. I owe you an exalt.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2011 13:45:05 GMT -5
I find it interesting that several people have repeatedly called me a racist, and it is not an issue for the board. While I really do not care that people are saying I am a racist, and don't whine to mods about people being "wahwah mean to me", I will remember that next time I get slapped for something by a mod. As far as I am concerned with the name calling-- my job is to keep my own sidewalk clean, and if other people want to muck theirs up with insults to other posters-- not my business. Actually, I enjoy watching the board dynamics in action. Like I said- I am not at all PC, prefer to see it like it really is.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Feb 14, 2011 15:59:44 GMT -5
I find it interesting that several people have repeatedly called me a racist, and it is not an issue for the board. While I really do not care that people are saying I am a racist, and don't whine to mods about people being "wahwah mean to me", I will remember that next time I get slapped for something by a mod. As far as I am concerned with the name calling-- my job is to keep my own sidewalk clean, and if other people want to muck theirs up with insults to other posters-- not my business. Actually, I enjoy watching the board dynamics in action. Like I said- I am not at all PC, prefer to see it like it really is. I have re-read this entire thread and I did not find "several people" repeatedly calling you racist. You DID post something that raised eyebrows. Including mine. I have a severely disabled grandchild and it does make me very sad. Sad that she has no chance at a fullfilling life. Sad that she will always be limited due to her mental and physical issues. Reading that another grandmother was "sad" because her grandchildren were 1/2 brown set my teeth on edge. I'd be thrilled if my granddaughter were 1/2Latino and healthy. It seems that you are prone to posting whatever you feel like ("stream of conciousness" as someone said) but then you are also prone to playing the martyr card when you get called on it. Just my .02
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Post by marjar on Feb 14, 2011 16:10:41 GMT -5
I don't recall anyone calling Krickitt a racist. Posters stated that her comments could be construed as being racist, and suggested that perhaps she was unaware of how her comments might be perceived by others. We are all guilty of making remarks that can be misconstrued or interpreted in ways different than was our intent.
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 14, 2011 16:47:29 GMT -5
One day at work I was describing someone to my co-worker, because my co-worker needed to go physically find the person. I told my co-worker that this gentleman was black. He whispered it back "He's black?" I asked if there was a problem with that and my co-worker said "It just sounded funny you saying it out loud like that." I answered "Yes, I shouldn't have said that - maybe he doesn't know he is black and it would be out of line for me to be the one to tell him."
Apparantly even mentioning race is horrifying to some people. He was 1 of 3 black guys in our company (which is the same percentage of black people in my state.) I thought if my co-worker knew he was looking for a black guy, he would have a much better chance of finding him - instead of saying something like "He has dark hair, dark eyes, about 6 foot and somewhat slender." Sheesh!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2011 17:14:00 GMT -5
How DARE you say that word, thyme!!! Are you a racist?? (Anyone reading this thread would know that is not a personal insult, and to ban me for such would be insane.) Hey-- it happened to me before.The past board was racist, I guess, becauase they banned me -FOREVER- for what they called a racist comment. Since I am not a racist, all I could come up with is that they are.
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 14, 2011 17:15:48 GMT -5
I got banned for being a racist, too - but mine was only 3 days.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2011 17:17:58 GMT -5
I got a life sentence-- LOLOLOLOL!!!
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Post by privateinvestor on Feb 14, 2011 17:29:12 GMT -5
Re: Krickett's comment regarding her grandchildren. I put that in the same category as someone who says they'd like to have a son [or a daughter]. Would you call that sexist? The racist thing has been out of hand for some time. It is, and has been, to the point that [some] people are afraid to express their opinion. I heard Hannity remarking about someone being called racist and said [I'm paraphrasing], "That's the worst thing you can call someone." Really? I guess that makes child molesters feel better. Just about everyone is racist to some extent, particularly blacks, Jews, and other "minorities." I feel strongly that it's not how you feel, but how you act on those feelings [jmho].Anyway, I think that its' the old, "When you point at someone else, three fingers are pointing back at you." that describes what's going on. If Obama was suppose to issue in a "post-racial" society, he's failed miserably [or, more accurately, the closet racists have succeeded splendidly]. Little known fact or discussed by the Liberal Media but there are Blacks who are racists and do NOT like Obama because they don't consider him as a one of them... They also don't think he has done enough for Blacks since he became our President. These same Blacks also like to play the race card, and use discirmination as one of their defenses for their social issues. There are areas in Oakland CA. where anyone who is NOT black is not welcomed by both the residents, and gangs there, and risk their lives just by driving through those areas of the city.
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 14, 2011 17:33:27 GMT -5
There probably aren't a lot of groups out there who think he's "done enough" for anyone - although there are plenty who think he's done enough damage.
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