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Post by cranberry49 on Jan 1, 2013 11:20:45 GMT -5
Wow! I feel exactly as you do! I also love Fall and exhaust myself all summer long! LOL! Then here comes the dread of Winter again. Two homes would be great indeed. However, I simply could not afford it. So, I have lived with how I am for ages. Guess I will just have to continue the best I can! I know I've probably ask this before, but what part of the country are you in? I live about 45 miles west of Nashville, Tn. In fact, 7 miles from the kY line. It's gloomy here today. Oh, crap!
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Post by cranberry49 on Jan 1, 2013 11:22:09 GMT -5
Would you REALLY want 2 homes? I wouldn't. We downsized to a smaller home even through there are 5 of us because i don't like having more home than i need or want. It is enough for us to maintain and keep up one home. Having 2 homes would be like a anchor around my neck. I wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole. I have done a great deal of downsizing of my life. Too much "stuff" becomes the master. The less "stuff" i have to maintain, clean, store, fix, etc the happier i find myself. If we had two homes, it would indeed be a pain. I'd always be worrying about what was happening at the home I was not at. No. And it's too expensive. Trips are the answer, but they too are not cheap. I guess people like cranberry and myself, just push through and make the best of it. Having the grand kids over helps.[/b] Yeap! It sure does!
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Post by beags on Jan 1, 2013 13:02:25 GMT -5
Beags, maybe you need to change your focus. Right now it's centered on all the bad in the world. You can change that with small acts of your own that cost little or nothing. Give a person in line at the grocery store the extra couple of dollars they need to meet their purchase. Buy one extra bag of rice or pkg of mac & cheese and donate it to a food pantry. Give clothes you no longer need to an organization that helps clothe those in need. Smile at a stanger as you pass them in the street - you'd be surprised at how many smiles you receive in return. It will fill your heart with a reason - and you WILL feel better about living. I already do all of that. Which is why it surprises me that so many others don't. I know many here don't think I care. Perhaps that's my problem, I care too much. I'm not an evil hater of the poor people. I don't even hate people because of where they are from, what political party they choose to follow, their race, or their religion. If I don't get along with someone, it's not due to any of those things, but because of how they treated me. People want to see me as evil because it gives them someone to turn their aggressions on. Which is fine, it just shows me how much of it is out there vs those who have compassion for another being. Let me tell you, the haters are winning.
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 1, 2013 13:09:43 GMT -5
Who sees you as evil, beags? I've seen posts from you talking about how "evil" you are ... lots of them. I never really have taken you seriously, though, and I don't think most other people do.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2013 13:10:11 GMT -5
I think I get SAD in the winter also. I don't feel sad really, just lazy. Spring always re-energizes me. We have had about a week of dark gloominess. Today it is bright and sunny. Yay! DH makes fun of me because I always have every light on in the house at night in the winter. He thinks it's because I get scared. No, it's because I don't want to fall asleep when the sun goes down at 5:00 pm. I work nights and that helps. I don't notice it at work.
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Post by beags on Jan 1, 2013 13:13:12 GMT -5
Who sees you as evil, beags? I've seen posts from you talking about how "evil" you are ... lots of them. I never really have taken you seriously, though, and I don't think most other people do. LOL those posts are in jokes with people I consider friends. Even the people at work call me satans spawn. AGain that is done with good natured ribbing. I don't take that seriously either. I do know that many do truly consider me evil. Those are the ones who don't say so, but their actions do.
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Post by beags on Jan 1, 2013 13:16:34 GMT -5
I think I get SAD in the winter also. I don't feel sad really, just lazy. Spring always re-energizes me. We have had about a week of dark gloominess. Today it is bright and sunny. Yay! DH makes fun of me because I always have every light on in the house at night in the winter. He thinks it's because I get scared. No, it's because I don't want to fall asleep when the sun goes down at 5:00 pm. I work nights and that helps. I don't notice it at work. The last time I was in this mood a good snowstorm got me out of it. I can't explain that. It just worked. Perhaps I'm just tired and overworked, or stressed. It doesn't matter really. It's a personal mind game, isn't it? I've been in this situation before. I don't like drugs, won't take them. I figure if my mind got me into this mess, I should be able to battle it to get me out of this mess. Usually I can. But when I see so much bad around and not enough good to counter it . . . well it takes me a little longer to have that personal mind battle.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2013 13:21:41 GMT -5
Snow storms can help. It's like the world around you takes a little break so you can too. Plus it's a magical kind of pretty.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2013 13:34:44 GMT -5
beags, I have questions . . . Who are all these people you say would rejoice at your death? Why will they be happy about it? Do you live in a metro area that all you see are haters & blight? How much of your mindset is driven by financial constraints? Why do people think of you as evil? Is this something religious or racially based?
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Post by steff on Jan 1, 2013 14:55:21 GMT -5
Shooby, my grampa had alzheimers & dementia. Oddly enough, the ONLY person he could remember each visit was my kiddo. He didn't recognize his own daughters, and every 3rd or 4th visit he would remember me, but again, not my mom who was with me.
Every visit I brought him a bag of peanut m&m's and a can of Dr Pepper. I became the lady who bring him m&m's & Dr Pepper each week. He would get so excited to see me even on the days he had no clue that I was his granddaughter. I had to accept that was who I was going to be to him. And I found that while it wasn't the same feeling as having my grampa give me a hug & call me "Steffy", it was enough to hold onto for me.
My kiddo was initially uncomfortable visiting grampa also. He was in a home specializing in alzheimers care and it could be very rough to see the patients. I started volunteering to help run the homes bingo games once a week & I got kiddo involved with me. It helped him to see the patients as people/moms/dads/grampas/grammas instead of patients. It gave him a sense of helping, connecting, and adventure because let me tell you, running a bingo game in an alzheimers home is an adventure...lol His job was to walk around & make sure that folks were marking their cards with the numbers called & finding who had bingo. He learned how to speak calmly & compassionately to the elderly & how to laugh with them over I 90 being called 5 minutes ago. Even after grampa passed away, we continued our Wednesday bingo games at the home until kiddo started college.
By getting kiddo involved in more than just visiting, it took away the "fear" of dementia patients & elderly with health problems. Not to sound cruel, but honestly, grampa passing away was a relief. He was no longer scared & confused & we can all remember how he was before alzheimers and he would have been very angry at where he ended up at the end. He was the type that would have never accepted that he needed more help than his family could have provided. It was heartbreaking for all of us & it was a relief that his suffering had finally ended. He was creamated & his ashes divided up between his daughters. My aunt Joy gave me her urn of ashes because she said I was there with him at the end & he would appreciate that & want to stay close to me. With our warped sense of humor, kiddo often tells his friends not to get too loud because his great grampa is in the guest room resting. Then he'll "quietly" sneak them into the guest room & point to the urn and say "see, I told you my great grampa was resting"....lol Grampa would have found that hysterical. It would be right up his alley humor wise. My grampa had 1 arm (lost one in a cotton gin at 16) & his favorite thing to do when introduced to someone new was to flip his empty right sleeve into their hand for a handshake.
I hope something in this somewhere can help....
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Post by Jaguar on Jan 1, 2013 15:05:47 GMT -5
Steff that's sad about your grampa, but really awesome how you handled it.
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Post by steff on Jan 1, 2013 15:19:03 GMT -5
Suga, it was so upsetting at first & then I realized that he was completely connecting with that bag of m&m's & that Dr Pepper. In his almost constant "fog" he still remembered & looked forward to getting those each week. I loved my grampa so much & I just wanted those hugs from him & he wouldn't hug a stranger. But he would hug me like I was his favorite person in the world once a week. I had to find out how to accept that was all I was going to get & make it "enough" for me. I still miss his warped sense of humor & his practical jokes & how he always took my side against my cousin LOL. from childhood all the way until almost the end, I was the only person he would make the "bunny rabbit nose wiggle" with his missing arm. It was what he did to make us kids not be scared that he only had 1 arm. He could make the end of his "stump" arm wiggle & it did look like a bunny rabbits nose sniffing around.
He had 4 daughters & his first grandchild was a boy. I was the 2nd grandchild & while everyone said he always wanted boys, I always knew that secretly I was his favorite from the 2 of us cousins. He went out of his way too often to make sure we did what I wanted instead of my cousin or that I won the game instead of my cousin. The year my cousin pushed me out of the way to find the "special Easter egg" & win the prize, grampa had us all cracking eggs on our heads & he made sure my cousin got a raw egg. LOL I remember how he sat with me and laughed and laughed and told me how winning the prize sometimes wasn't the prize you thought it was.
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Post by Jaguar on Jan 1, 2013 15:43:29 GMT -5
Steff thanks for the fabulous story.
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Post by mrsdutt on Jan 1, 2013 16:32:31 GMT -5
I don't fear living either. At this point, it's just something that must be endured until I'm granted my death. People have gone insane and I no longer want any part of this life. Well I guess I can't really say that either, as I'm not going to kill myself. I tried that twice now, didn't work, I couldn't do it. IT's not that I feared death. I didn't, I just didn't want my immediate family to be left with questions or guilt. If I die naturally, it won't be suicide and they won't blame themselves. So I just have to endure this planet full of people who only want to hate until I die. Death will be welcome, but with the way my life goes . . I will be granted my death when the world sees the destructive path it's on and starts changing it. I wasn't lying, I hate living. The first thing people want to do is bully. or hate, there's no compassion in our world. The litttle that is left is over ruled by the people full of hate. There is no hope for humanity ... . I see it more on the message boards than I do in real life. But it's there in real life as well. When hate starts to overrule good, it's time to embrace death. So I don't fear death, I don't fear living . . I hate living at the moment, but I don't fear it. I don't like how humanity has turned out. When we can't find compassion or understanding of another human, it's simply time to throw in the towel and wait for death. Why? because death is better than this hell on earth. Beags, are you OK? There's lots of good people around. You have to look for them. Keep the others out of your life, it's a choice you have. Reject them and accept the good ones.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2013 17:08:37 GMT -5
Shooby, my grampa had alzheimers & dementia. Oddly enough, the ONLY person he could remember each visit was my kiddo. He didn't recognize his own daughters, and every 3rd or 4th visit he would remember me, but again, not my mom who was with me. Every visit I brought him a bag of peanut m&m's and a can of Dr Pepper. I became the lady who bring him m&m's & Dr Pepper each week. He would get so excited to see me even on the days he had no clue that I was his granddaughter. I had to accept that was who I was going to be to him. And I found that while it wasn't the same feeling as having my grampa give me a hug & call me "Steffy", it was enough to hold onto for me. My kiddo was initially uncomfortable visiting grampa also. He was in a home specializing in alzheimers care and it could be very rough to see the patients. I started volunteering to help run the homes bingo games once a week & I got kiddo involved with me. It helped him to see the patients as people/moms/dads/grampas/grammas instead of patients. It gave him a sense of helping, connecting, and adventure because let me tell you, running a bingo game in an alzheimers home is an adventure...lol His job was to walk around & make sure that folks were marking their cards with the numbers called & finding who had bingo. He learned how to speak calmly & compassionately to the elderly & how to laugh with them over I 90 being called 5 minutes ago. Even after grampa passed away, we continued our Wednesday bingo games at the home until kiddo started college. By getting kiddo involved in more than just visiting, it took away the "fear" of dementia patients & elderly with health problems. Not to sound cruel, but honestly, grampa passing away was a relief. He was no longer scared & confused & we can all remember how he was before alzheimers and he would have been very angry at where he ended up at the end. He was the type that would have never accepted that he needed more help than his family could have provided. It was heartbreaking for all of us & it was a relief that his suffering had finally ended. He was creamated & his ashes divided up between his daughters. My aunt Joy gave me her urn of ashes because she said I was there with him at the end & he would appreciate that & want to stay close to me. With our warped sense of humor, kiddo often tells his friends not to get too loud because his great grampa is in the guest room resting. Then he'll "quietly" sneak them into the guest room & point to the urn and say "see, I told you my great grampa was resting"....lol Grampa would have found that hysterical. It would be right up his alley humor wise. My grampa had 1 arm (lost one in a cotton gin at 16) & his favorite thing to do when introduced to someone new was to flip his empty right sleeve into their hand for a handshake. I hope something in this somewhere can help.... Thank you steff for the kind words and thoughts and telling me your story. And, i do try to make the visits less depressing for the kids. I tell them it is OK to laugh and if you crack up over something Gram says, that is OK. Last night she was chatting and suddenly looked up at DH and said "You know, DH has a nice head"! We all looked at each other and started laughing and gram was grinning. You do have to find the humor in the moments.
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Post by mrsdutt on Jan 1, 2013 17:10:30 GMT -5
Nice story, SHOOB
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2013 17:11:19 GMT -5
Thanks. ;D
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Post by mrsdutt on Jan 1, 2013 19:52:31 GMT -5
Zaire cut this woman loose. It sounds like your playing sadistic obsessive mind games.
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 1, 2013 20:16:26 GMT -5
How in the heck did a thread about death get off on Zaire and his messed-up love life?
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 1, 2013 20:31:38 GMT -5
Death is, as we've noted, something that comes to all of us, in one form or another, and usually multiple times. We lose loved ones. Then, we lose our own lives. It's a reality, and discussing it is a good thing, in my experience. For those who have lost someone dear, it helps them make sense of their feelings and cope with the loss. For those who are facing serious illness, it lets them talk about their feelings of fear and confusion. It's a serious subject and an important one, IMO.
I taught a course on death and dying to nurses for many years. We learned how to deal with the feelings of the patient, family members, friends, and ourselves. We learned about Advanced Directives, and we learned about saying "Goodbye". We learned how to help ourselves and others to deal better with the scattered emotions that accompany loss. Threads like this can be useful in the same way.
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Jan 1, 2013 20:36:29 GMT -5
Post by steff on Jan 1, 2013 20:36:29 GMT -5
there is just a bit of difference between death of a friendship and the literal death (end of LIFE) of a loved one...
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Post by Jaguar on Jan 1, 2013 20:37:42 GMT -5
there is just a bit of difference between death of a friendship and the literal death (end of LIFE) of a loved one... YES !!!
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 1, 2013 20:39:14 GMT -5
I'm going to move Zaire's posts about his relationships, and all that responded to said posts, into his other thread talking about the same thing. There's no need to turn this thread into a further discussion of a thread that already exists.
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Post by Jaguar on Jan 1, 2013 20:42:09 GMT -5
I don't look at death as really a loss. Just a transition from one state into another. No we can't touch our loved ones, but to me they are still there just in a different form. My mother, an artist herself, was my biggest fan. We painted a lot together. Now she's gone, but every time I pick up a paint brush she is there, painting with me. She loves it and berates me for not painting more often. I do my best work when I have invited her to join me. She was seldom happy in this life, but took great pleasure in her art. I can feel her as I type this. She is soooo happy right now and wants me to tell you all this. Then pick up that paint brush and paint.
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 1, 2013 21:01:15 GMT -5
I see death as a loss only to the family and friends of the deceased, in that they are no longer able to interface with that person in the living world. Some people, like you, Lonewolf, feel they maintain a connection after death. Others don't have that connection, and they miss the daily interactions of life with the one they loved and cared for. For them, the loss is real and often devastating. While you may have a way of coping that works for you, and I may have one that works for me, there are those who have a more difficult time coming to grips with death.
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I do think that as a society we often don't want to really face the reality of it. And, i would think that nowadays we really should start requiring people to have an Advance Directive and really ponder some of these issues and make their wishes known in advance. As for grieving, it can be very difficult because it is is often very difficult to talk about. People don't want to talk about the deceased. They sometimes feel that doing so will pain you but in reality it is a relief and joy to be able to freely talk about that person.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2013 22:10:49 GMT -5
I do think that as a society we often don't want to really face the reality of it. And, i would think that nowadays we really should start requiring people to have an Advance Directive and really ponder some of these issues and make their wishes known in advance. As for grieving, it can be very difficult because it is is often very difficult to talk about. People don't want to talk about the deceased. They sometimes feel that doing so will pain you but in reality it is a relief and joy to be able to freely talk about that person. shooby, I concur with what you are saying. My past experience with losing someone dear to me. The friends has tendency shy a way from your grief. They don't really want to deal with their own possibility of dying,I am just summing and I think it's correct way to explain their reaction.It was hurtful at that time,I am much more peace with it now. That is humans tendency to not to face unavoidable. That is why, sometimes joining the group you can able to express yourself is very helpful. My Husband is wonderful in that regard. And I would say, he is my best friend.
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Post by ZaireinHD on Jan 1, 2013 23:06:38 GMT -5
very true - death is a natural process of living. I think it is wrong for family members to take a DNR to court and have it reversed. Your loved on wants to continue their life as they once knew it. They do not want to continue life on a death bed. There is a reason why your loved one has signed a DNR.
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Post by beags on Jan 2, 2013 0:00:28 GMT -5
Z, I am not familiar with DNR or how they work.
I do know this, we watched a once very healthy man deteriorate before our eyes. Towards the end it just wasn't living for him. He was stuck in bed and couldn't do anything for himself. That wasn't living for him. We are talking about man who enjoyed the outdoors and life in general. When he was 80 years old he was playing basketball with men in their 20's. Not competitively, just for fun. Then his body started to shut down piece by piece for over a year. His mind was still sharp. That wasn't the grandpa I remembered, and that wasn't how he would have wanted it. I think the family decided on their own that they would not allow them to keep him in the state he was in. When the doctors figured he was dying, they were told to allow it to happen. It was just not living for him. He was suffereing, it was time to end it.
Grandpa did not have a DNR, but if he did and someone would have taken it to court to have it reversed . . . let me tell you, that person would have had an entire family not so happy with them.
You are correct, Z, if someone signs one, his/her wishes should be honored.
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