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Post by sheilaincali on Dec 13, 2012 10:10:06 GMT -5
I'm cynical of nearly everything in life. It would say "I'm sorry, I am not in need of a gift card what I really need is cash". I she were really desperate for a washer she would have responded to your email response right away. She was hoping to find a bleeding heart. Not saying she doesn't need the washer. Just saying she's trying to avoid having to come up with the cash. And if you don't need or want the gift certificate than you are basically giving your stuff away for free in the event you don't use the unneeded gift certificate.
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Post by hoops902 on Dec 13, 2012 10:17:37 GMT -5
I'm cynical of nearly everything in life. It would say "I'm sorry, I am not in need of a gift card what I really need is cash". I she were really desperate for a washer she would have responded to your email response right away. She was hoping to find a bleeding heart. Not saying she doesn't need the washer. Just saying she's trying to avoid having to come up with the cash. And if you don't need or want the gift certificate than you are basically giving your stuff away for free in the event you don't use the unneeded gift certificate. Based on what? OP doesn't say how long it had been. Most people don't sit at a computer clicking Refresh on their email browser. Even if I REALLY need something, i might not have access to email for 24-48 hours or more. She's not necessarily walking around with a smartphone checking it constantly.
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Post by sheilaincali on Dec 13, 2012 10:32:53 GMT -5
Hoops- then why would you respond in the first place if you knew you weren't going to have access to a computer to check your email? If you were that desperate to "keep your child's clean" you would give the OP a heads up that said "I'm going to be away from my computer so I can't check my email. Call me instead please" OP posted on here yesterday afternoon and hasn't updated to say that she heard back from the lady yet. When you list something for sale with a valid price and you get a quick response saying "I'll trade you my hair salon gift certificate for your working washer and dryer" I would think "WTF? That's not cash like I requested".
I guess I've never REALLY needed something, offered by buy said thing and then been out of communication for days after making my request.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2012 10:44:42 GMT -5
"Based on what? OP doesn't say how long it had been. Most people don't sit at a computer clicking Refresh on their email browser. Even if I REALLY need something, i might not have access to email for 24-48 hours or more. She's not necessarily walking around with a smartphone checking it constantly. "
She responded to my 1st email right away (under 2 minutes) with the "story". Then I responded within 5 minutes and she hasn't responded since then (it's been 18 hours according to gmail). I am now thinking she was going to scam me but when I told her about my divorce and my infant, she felt bad and backed off. If she truely needed it, I would have given it to her without the certificate too.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2012 10:46:27 GMT -5
I looked at the emails again. She emailed at 2:36 pm asking if they were still available. I emailed at 3:17 saying yes, she emailed back at 3:17 (it was almost as if it was an automated email), then I responded back at 3:22 and no word from her. Below is my response to her:
"I normally wouldn't consider this but I just got divorced myself with an infant (today was my final court). So I am okay with trading the washer for the $150 spa gift certificate. When would you like to do the trade? Sometime this weekend should work for me. My name is Sxxxx and number is xxxx."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2012 10:47:18 GMT -5
Maybe she found someone else to take the trade, so she doesn't have the GC's anymore?
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Post by hoops902 on Dec 13, 2012 11:27:10 GMT -5
::Hoops- then why would you respond in the first place if you knew you weren't going to have access to a computer to check your email?::
Because not everyone believes that it's normal to be online 24/7. By your logic unless someone is going to be online frantically clicking refresh 24/7, they just shouldn't email people.
::I guess I've never REALLY needed something, offered by buy said thing and then been out of communication for days after making my request. ::
Days? It's not even been 24 hours. This is a washer, not a new artificial heart. REALLY needing something is different depending on what it is you need. If I REALLY need a new kidney, i might need it in a matter of minutes, but a day without a washer is not an emergency.
Frankly, the fact she hasn't responded immediately means it's far less likely to be a scam. A scammer would have jumped all over it when you respond that you'll do the trade.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2012 11:36:46 GMT -5
"Frankly, the fact she hasn't responded immediately means it's far less likely to be a scam. A scammer would have jumped all over it when you respond that you'll do the trade. "
This may be a stretch of my imagination but this is what I am thinking. It could be a scam. She sent out the original email asking if it is still email, when I responded yes, her email was set up to automatically respond with the story (because her response with so quick). Since it was automated, she hasn't seen my response yet because in fact it wasn't her responding, it was just automated. Did I just make up a whole new story or what???
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Post by sheilaincali on Dec 13, 2012 11:54:13 GMT -5
No Hoops- by my logic if you are trying to arrange a purchase of something that A. you claim to need desperately and B. you have asked questions about it's reasonable to assume that you would check your email on a fairly regular schedule. As OP states it's been nearly a full day since she last responded stating she would accept the gift certificates but the potential buyer has been silent. You would think she would be responding with a "oh thank you, when can we arrange a time to meet" rather than being completely silent?
Of course I'm a normal adult. If I'm expecting an email I check my email more often than I normally would. My work email is up at all times when I am at work because I get dozens of emails through out the day. My personal emails (I have two personal ones) I check once in the morning and once in the evening. However, like I said- if I'm expecting an email I would check it more often.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2012 12:29:29 GMT -5
If I'm expecting an email I check my email more often than I normally would. Oh my...are you going to counter Hoop's argument with...common sense?! No offense intended, Hoops, but your arguments in general remind me of my kids when they were teens. …knowingly misstating the original comments and blowing them way out of proportion (“normal to be online 24/7” “frantically clicking refresh 24/7”…”a new kidney”…etc.) I’m surprised so many still argue back.
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Post by sheilaincali on Dec 13, 2012 12:50:38 GMT -5
Yeah- I was ready to just let it go. I've noticed that Hoops just seems to like to get in to arguments to help pass this day so he doesn't get bored.
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Post by hoops902 on Dec 13, 2012 13:15:36 GMT -5
If I'm expecting an email I check my email more often than I normally would. Oh my...are you going to counter Hoop's argument with...common sense?! No offense intended, Hoops, but your arguments in general remind me of my kids when they were teens. …knowingly misstating the original comments and blowing them way out of proportion (“normal to be online 24/7” “frantically clicking refresh 24/7”…”a new kidney”…etc.) I’m surprised so many still argue back. Right, because clearly it's a scam or she doesn't really need it because she didn't respond back immediately. Are you people really so consumed with your online lives that the thought of going a full day without being plugged in seems inconceivable.
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Post by hoops902 on Dec 13, 2012 13:20:37 GMT -5
::If I'm expecting an email I check my email more often than I normally would. ::
Except this isn't a counter to my argument, because I've never disagreed with this. I've only disagreed that one person's "more often" is not the same as someone else's.
The problem comes when people start making assumptions like "if they don't behave the way I claim I would behave, it must be a scam".
::She responded to my 1st email right away (under 2 minutes) with the "story". Then I responded within 5 minutes and she hasn't responded since then (it's been 18 hours according to gmail). ::
Maybe she thinks YOU'RE a scammer because you replied so fast:O
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Post by hoops902 on Dec 13, 2012 13:25:06 GMT -5
Ya know, a colleague sent me an email asking for some information this morning, I responded back right away that I could provide the info but needed a few questions answered. It's now been 4 hours and they haven't responded, should I report this to IT security as a scam? Surely they could have nothing else to do except await my response and reply since this was something they needed.
I'll let you all know how the investigation goes.
::I've noticed that Hoops just seems to like to get in to arguments to help pass this day so he doesn't get bored. ::
Ummm duh? If anyone is spending their free time posting on these boards because they think the topics are so life-altering then I kind of feel bad for them. It's entertainment, if it's not...well, that person has some problems.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2012 13:47:45 GMT -5
"Maybe she thinks YOU'RE a scammer because you replied so fast:O" Yep combined with my own sob story (I mean what are the chances that she emailed me the day I got divorced, right? ), I am sure she thinks I was going to scam her or worse... I guess I better repost so somebody else can offer me some scam.
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Post by hoops902 on Dec 13, 2012 13:58:38 GMT -5
"Maybe she thinks YOU'RE a scammer because you replied so fast:O" Yep combined with my own sob story (I mean what are the chances that she emailed me the day I got divorced, right? ), I am sure she thinks I was going to scam her or worse... I guess I better repost so somebody else can offer me some scam. You have to wait a respectable amount of time to reply though so as not to come off as a scammer, but don't wait more than a few hours of you're a scammer then also. I think the exactly time to make you a non-scammer is 1 hour and 39 minutes.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2012 15:09:05 GMT -5
Speak of the devil... She responded:
"That's great. I don't know if your interested but I have a certificate to planet sun tanning aswell. Its completely up to you. I live in xxx and appreciate this very much. My name is barbara and my number is xxxx".
Now I don't know what to do. i already told her I will trade for the spa certificate. I will recruit my friend to be there when she comes to get the washer. He wants my refrigerator anyway. So I will just see if they can get it at the same time.
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Post by hoops902 on Dec 13, 2012 15:26:11 GMT -5
::"That's great. I don't know if your interested but I have a certificate to planet sun tanning aswell. Its completely up to you. I live in xxx and appreciate this very much. My name is barbara and my number is xxxx".::
Definitely a scam, she's claiming her phone # is only 4 digits long.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2012 16:24:21 GMT -5
"Definitely a scam, she's claiming her phone # is only 4 digits long."
I will give you the number and you can call and see if it is.
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Post by hoops902 on Dec 13, 2012 16:53:05 GMT -5
"Definitely a scam, she's claiming her phone # is only 4 digits long." I will give you the number and you can call and see if it is. I think we'd be back to her thinking YOU were scamming. She gives a divorced woman on the internet her home phone number, then mysteriously right away she gets a call from a very deep-voiced male. She'd probably think you were luring her there to chop her up and put her in your freezer.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2012 17:02:29 GMT -5
I think everything is a scam and am always wary. So now she/he knows you live alone with an infant. I would be very careful. Sorry I keep flashing to the craigslist killer...you can never be too careful. Hmmm. I wonder if my wife know of this...Combine it with the previous thread about killing me instead of divorce and her having me list an old stove for sale on Craigslist...Should I be concerned? Here's a story from the Chicago Tribune Problem solver, guy was trying to sell a Lowes giftcard on Craigslist and when trying to prove the value was on there the scammer got a hold of the card # and drained all $3,200 off the card... LINK
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Post by alabamagal on Dec 13, 2012 17:52:47 GMT -5
I don't know now....I think sometimes people just do this and try to get you to call them and once you get them on the phone they may try to do something else. I would not call the number. Just respond and say "this is the time and date you can pick it up"
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2012 17:58:13 GMT -5
"I don't know now....I think sometimes people just do this and try to get you to call them and once you get them on the phone they may try to do something else. I would not call the number. Just respond and say "this is the time and date you can pick it up""
That is a very good point. I gave her my number in my email. Why wouldn't SHE call me?
I hate that it has come down to questioning what may be a legitimite need for someone. Too many bad people!
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Post by Sammy on Dec 14, 2012 0:29:49 GMT -5
I have something fantastic to sell..... a bridge. Scam is written all over this story and not the first nor the last time it's been tried. Keep thinking of hypothetical scenarios and eventually you talk yourselves into believing the story. Gift certificates can always be checked, but at what amount o your time and your effort?? Now back to the latest from the United Nations in my email Inbox. I just know some relative or another left me a bundle.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2012 14:54:04 GMT -5
My DD does barter deals on CraigsList. When you are single mom & you have something to trade, it is often all you can go with.
No, I would not assume it is a scam. However I would not have anyone come to my home to pick things up without having others present. I might even cart the thing down to a nearby intersection as soon as the agreed pick up is arranged.
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Post by thyme4change on Dec 19, 2012 11:27:24 GMT -5
It sounds weird. I wouldn't. You are being too nice.
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Post by Angel! on Dec 20, 2012 13:57:44 GMT -5
What happened with this? Did she pick up the washer? Was the GC good?
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Post by TheOtherMe on Dec 20, 2012 21:35:09 GMT -5
I usually ask them to text me on CL and tell them I won't respond to emails. Have had too many things fall apart when I did emails. Texts take a little more work and are more instant.
Last think I sold in CL, I had numerous responses. I told the person that and she upped the offer. I did have back ups if she wigged out on me, but she didn't. Definitely meet in a public place.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2012 23:02:05 GMT -5
After all the responses here and her response being a little off, i havent gotten back to her. I found somebody else to pay $300 cash for both. If all goes ok, she ll buy it on sunday.
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Post by taz157 on Dec 20, 2012 23:27:04 GMT -5
After all the responses here and her response being a little off, i havent gotten back to her. I found somebody else to pay $300 cash for both. If all goes ok, she ll buy it on sunday. Good luck!
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