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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2012 13:46:27 GMT -5
Neither one of my kids like the carbonation so I guess I lucked out with that one! I think I let them first try it around 4 or 5.
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Post by telephus44 on Nov 28, 2012 14:25:42 GMT -5
He's on Tenex. It's a blood pressure lowering medication, used off-label to help with hyperactivity. It does actually help him a lot with energy levels not being out of control, but not so much with focus. I was actually wondering if one of the stimulant meds might be better for him (like Ritalin).
As far as soda - I'm not a stickler for eating healthy. I'm sure Owen tried some by age 2. We don't keep it in the house, but if we go out to eat or a family party or whatever I'm fine if he has soda.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Nov 28, 2012 14:26:00 GMT -5
At what age did you/or do you intend to let your children have pop on special occasions? DH caught his sister giving Avery Pepsi on Thanksgiving. He stopped her, but she drank some. At home on a regular basis she gets water, organic milk and watered down organic juice. That's it. On special occasions like parties or holidays I let her have a juice box. I had kind of picked an arbitrary age of 5 that I thought I would start to let her have pop (or soda, for some of you ) on special occasions. What are your thoughts? Both of my have had samples - DD because I accidentally gave her my sister's cup of Pepsi instead of my lemonade. And DS because he snagged my can of Pepsi. To the best of my knowledge, that's it. At home we do, 2% milk, water, chocolate milk and juice. I don't do juice boxes but if someone offers them to the kids, I don't say no. I've heard DD say something about not wanting/not getting soda but I don't remember what brought it on.
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Post by dakota4600 on Nov 28, 2012 15:06:21 GMT -5
DS didn't want me to walk into his classroom with him today. He's been saying for awhile now that he'll go in by himself, but today he told me to wait at the door . Telephus Hugs! Pop I don't think DS had any yet. He gets juice boxes only at parties, other than it is water and milk only. I know I'm a horribly mean mom. But it is cute when he tells people no to juice and asks for milk or water.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Nov 28, 2012 15:15:07 GMT -5
Cabe keeps asking for "daddy's water" DH has a big-ass Brita filter in the fridge and both kids think it's the greatest thing EVER. ;D
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Post by yogiii on Nov 28, 2012 15:17:10 GMT -5
DS is 2.5 and so far it's just milk or water ... until last week when he had some cider at an apple orchard. I plan to keep it just milk and water at our house for as long as I can. No one he visits regularly really drinks soda often (I'm thinking of grandparents and other family members) so I don't see that being a big issue until he's actually school age and has soda at a friends house and by then I guess I'll be fine with it.
Even at this age, I wouldn't freak out if he tried some as a one time thing but it would not be something he'd be drinking at our house
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Post by moosmommy on Nov 28, 2012 21:34:59 GMT -5
Telephus sorry you are having such a hard time with your son. My oldest has occasional violent episodes. It is a scary feeling when your child has issues like that. Hugs.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Nov 29, 2012 8:29:22 GMT -5
Well, my tub got scrubbed last night, if only because Cabe pooped in it. Sigh. He had a bunch of his toy dinosaurs in the tub at the time so I ran them though the dishwasher. 6 of them dissolved and I have bright speckles all over it. Sigh again.
I'm off tomorrow. I'm going Christmas shopping with my older sister. She's taking a 1/2 day and we're going to lunch (I have a gift card to use) and I'm hoping to pound out most of the kid shopping. Got to make a list today of what I'm looking for so I stay sort of on track. ;D
Keria's off Monday and DH is taking the day off. I think I'll remind him that we've got Zoo membership and the Museum's free on Mondays, if he wants to go out with her. He'd going to be off a week in Dec, just before Christmas. I told him he gets 1 day to be a slug. ;D
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Post by CarolinaKat on Nov 29, 2012 9:20:21 GMT -5
At what age did you/or do you intend to let your children have pop on special occasions? DH caught his sister giving Avery Pepsi on Thanksgiving. He stopped her, but she drank some. At home on a regular basis she gets water, organic milk and watered down organic juice. That's it. On special occasions like parties or holidays I let her have a juice box. I had kind of picked an arbitrary age of 5 that I thought I would start to let her have pop (or soda, for some of you ) on special occasions. What are your thoughts? I know i'm not a mom but I remember cleary the first time I had soda. I was in kindergarten (age 4) and this is when I discovered my body will not tolerate carbonation. It still won't actually. I'm not sure when my parents intended for me to have it, but Mom was NOT happy I'd had soda.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Nov 29, 2012 9:27:12 GMT -5
DS1 is nearly 3, and has not tried soda yet. I did let him try my coffee when he turned 2. My reasoning was, he would find it gross and leave the cup alone after that. Silly me, I didn't think about the sugar and flavored creamer in it, DS actually liked it and kept asking for more.
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Post by 973beachbum on Nov 29, 2012 9:35:00 GMT -5
He's on Tenex. It's a blood pressure lowering medication, used off-label to help with hyperactivity. It does actually help him a lot with energy levels not being out of control, but not so much with focus. I was actually wondering if one of the stimulant meds might be better for him (like Ritalin). As far as soda - I'm not a stickler for eating healthy. I'm sure Owen tried some by age 2. We don't keep it in the house, but if we go out to eat or a family party or whatever I'm fine if he has soda. My son is on adderall. I have to say that we only did it when we were at our wits end. He would literally forget to look both ways when crossing the street. On the meds he is sooooo much better concentrating on things that we and the teachers want instead of whatever pops into his head. He had the attention span of a knat. He would go into the bathroom to brush his teeth and literally end up five minutes later with the toothbrush in his hand with toothpaste on it halfway to his mouth while he sang to himself in the mirror. We would tell him something like "look both ways before you cross the street" and inbetween him looking at us as we talked and turning his head to walk to the street it just flew out of his head and he didn't remember a thing. I have to say it is MUCH better now with the meds. He is still the same kid he always was he just can manage to not get distracted at the blink of an eye. Whatever you do I hope it all goes well!
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Post by telephus44 on Nov 29, 2012 17:47:27 GMT -5
DS1 is nearly 3, and has not tried soda yet. I did let him try my coffee when he turned 2. My reasoning was, he would find it gross and leave the cup alone after that. Silly me, I didn't think about the sugar and flavored creamer in it, DS actually liked it and kept asking for more. Owen likes coffee. Ironically, he likes daddy's coffee (iced, milk only, no sugar) best. One of my most memorable "bad mom" moments was talking to another mother at a playground, someone I had just met, and Owen was about 3 - he comes running up to me and says "Mom, I need a coffee." I just wanted to die. Honestly, I think there's a lot worse things he could have than coffee.
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Post by saveinla on Nov 29, 2012 17:51:55 GMT -5
According to my husband, he has been drinking coffee since he was 2. He loved the smell of coffee and would beg his grandma for some (his grandma also told me the story when we got married), after he learned to speak. He has always had his like a cafe latte/capuccino and is still a coffee lover.
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Post by telephus44 on Nov 29, 2012 17:52:13 GMT -5
He's on Tenex. It's a blood pressure lowering medication, used off-label to help with hyperactivity. It does actually help him a lot with energy levels not being out of control, but not so much with focus. I was actually wondering if one of the stimulant meds might be better for him (like Ritalin). As far as soda - I'm not a stickler for eating healthy. I'm sure Owen tried some by age 2. We don't keep it in the house, but if we go out to eat or a family party or whatever I'm fine if he has soda. My son is on adderall. I have to say that we only did it when we were at our wits end. He would literally forget to look both ways when crossing the street. On the meds he is sooooo much better concentrating on things that we and the teachers want instead of whatever pops into his head. He had the attention span of a knat. He would go into the bathroom to brush his teeth and literally end up five minutes later with the toothbrush in his hand with toothpaste on it halfway to his mouth while he sang to himself in the mirror. We would tell him something like "look both ways before you cross the street" and inbetween him looking at us as we talked and turning his head to walk to the street it just flew out of his head and he didn't remember a thing. I have to say it is MUCH better now with the meds. He is still the same kid he always was he just can manage to not get distracted at the blink of an eye. Whatever you do I hope it all goes well! I've been playing phone tag with the pedi, but I think I'm going to ask for a behavioral specialist AND for a referral to adjust his meds. We didn't pick a stimulant category because of his autism - according to the doctor, most of the kids he had seen on spectrum if they were going to have a bad reaction, it was worse. Not that they had bad reactions more often, but that if they did it was more severe. But it might be worth trying. Owen will do things like be sitting at his desk in class, the teacher is talking, and look over at the wall and see a book, so just get up out of his chair and get it because it looks interesting. Like that kind of total distracting. A few nights ago we were all on our bed including the baby, and he wanted to climb over to see me and just stepped on the baby's arm because he wasn't paying attention to what he was doing. I'm kind of curious to see how his IEP will go tomorow. I'm hoping to talk to the doctor tonight to have a plan of attack for tomorrow.
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Post by moosmommy on Nov 29, 2012 18:52:02 GMT -5
Telephus my oldest is autistic as well.
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Post by telephus44 on Nov 30, 2012 17:33:53 GMT -5
IEP meeting went ok. They are going to try a 2 week trial of differential reinforcement procedural behavior modification with him and we'll reconvene in 3 weeks. That should give me enough time to get with the pedi (we're still playing phone tag) and see about adjusting his meds and/or seeing a different behavioral specialist. He's also been spending the last hour of the day in Kindergarten as a break - he just can't seem to maintain control for a whole day and it's frustrating him.
Tonight I'm going to an "adult toys" party. That should be interesting! I've never been to one.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Dec 3, 2012 9:28:13 GMT -5
God, where to begin.... Ok, funny stuff first - DD loves her CDs. We've got 3 Disney ones and we swap out between them. Lately, it's Pocahontas. One of the songs is the villain singing "Savages! Savages! Barely even human. Now we sound the drums of war!" Well, Keira's been singing "Sandwiches! Sandwiches! Barely HOOman! Now we sound the drums of vaw!" It's all I can do not to laugh out loud. AND I'm just about done with the Christmas shopping for our kids. There's a couple of things I need to St. Nick's but basically, our kids are done. There's a bunch of other shopping to be done yet though. And onto the bad. Friday sucked. I was off and when we went into Cabe's room, you could smell the poop. He had a major poop explosion. I tossed the fitted sheet in the trash. Stripped his bed down and started laundry. Tossed him in the tub (at 7am) told DH I'd get him to dcp and called them to give them a heads up. Got both kids dressed and out to the car. Realized my car key had fallen apart and the battery and battery holder had fallen out. Retrace steps. Can't find it. Take Cabe to dcp. He knocks over the pen can at checkin and it shatters. Try to keep kids away from glass while it's being cleaned up. Leave with Keira. Who later realizes she left her hat behind. Take Keira to see about getting key fixed, since it's only a week old... No luck. Run home, change clothes, take Keira to school. We're late and run/trot across playground to her area. Teacher sees us coming and holds door and takes KEira to class. I go to meet my sister at mall. Realize key cut last week doesn't work on the door locks. Dig around and discover valet key. Add it to my key chain. Now I need to use 2 keys for my car. Meet up with sister. Shop until we drop. Use giftcard for lunch at Outback. It's ok. Go home. Relax before heading out to pick up kids from school and dcp. Walk into DCP and am met by Director. Cabe had a horribly aggressive day. Scratched his teacher and drew blood. Pushed a kid hard enough that he left the ground and hit his head on the wall. Was pushy out on the playground. Ended up spending time in the Director's office because they knew about how crappy my morning was and didn't want to burden me anymore by making me cut short my day to come pick him up. I don't know what to do with him. I really don't. The rest of the weekend was better. Kids spent Sat. night at my other sister's while DH and I bowled. We dropped them off, had dinner, bowled and came home. It was really nice to have the house to ourselves.
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Post by telephus44 on Dec 3, 2012 14:24:39 GMT -5
Wow Beth, that really sucks. How does the daycare handle aggression? Separate them, send them home? Is there anything that's changed in his life recently that might be causing it?
Last week I sent my breast pump out to Firebird. I re-used a box and forgot to mark out my address on it. I spent $11.56 to have it show up on my doorstep 2 days later. That was my feel like an idiot moment.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Dec 3, 2012 14:33:20 GMT -5
They separate, they explain why how it hurts someone and makes them sad and they distract. They probably do more but that's off the top of my head. I don't think anything changed. Dcp did suggest that maybe he's hitting another growth spurt and it's the hormones. I dunno.
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Post by kgb18 on Dec 3, 2012 17:22:50 GMT -5
Beth, I'm sorry you had such a bad day. Hugs.
Avery has totally regressed on potty training. She did great for about two weeks and now she's refusing to go on the potty at all. I'm so frustrated.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Dec 3, 2012 22:43:29 GMT -5
OK, so what do you do with a 2.5 yr old who does not listen AT ALL. I mean you can stand there for 5-10-20 minutes asking him to stop touching this or put that down and NOTHING. You yell - he responds. (No, there is nothing wrong with his hearing). He gets into EVERYTHING. He got into my room after I thought he was in bed and used pens and markers to draw on my computer screen of my brand new laptop. Time outs don't work, yelling doesn't work.... I can't re-direct him, bc I don't always see what he is doing until after he already did it. Thoughts/suggestions/ideas???
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Post by kgb18 on Dec 3, 2012 22:52:06 GMT -5
I'm usually a fan of positive rewards, but he sounds like a real challenge and you might have to go the opposite route. Is there something he really likes that you can use as leverage either positive or negative? Taking it away if he doesn't listen. Or giving him it if he does.
By the way, kudos to you for not choking him to death for the laptop thing.
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Post by Sam_2.0 on Dec 3, 2012 23:13:47 GMT -5
Lena - not sure if this is helpful to you or not, but we were raised with spanking for that type of behavior (and that's what we are starting to do with DD). Its not the first option, but if warnings are not heeded and attempts at re-direction are not successful, then there's a spanking. DD has only had a few but they have been effective in curbing the completely undesirable behavior (screaming, kicking, laying down & throwing a tantrum on the floor). We tell her its ok to be frustrated and upset, but that the certain behaviors are unacceptable. She's not thrown herself on the floor in a couple weeks now. And her screaming at us is much less than it was just a couple weeks ago. And we do try to recognize and praise her corrections when she heeds warnings and obeys the first time. That positive reinforcement is getting much better as well. She responds to that quickly, maybe because she is remembering what the consequences are for not obeying.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Dec 4, 2012 8:41:44 GMT -5
I got nothing Lena. Sorry. My 3 year old listens when he wants to. For us, telling him that what he did hurts/makes me sad works sometimes. Bribes maybe? If he can get though x amount of time behaving, he gets 1 m&m or whatever?
If it's any consolation, my younger sister has 3 kids in a 5 year span. They were hellions when they were little but as teens are good kids, involved in sports, doing well in school, etc. She and her DH were consistent in their parenting (even when we thought they were nuts) and it's worked out for them so far.
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Post by yogiii on Dec 4, 2012 8:47:59 GMT -5
OK, so what do you do with a 2.5 yr old who does not listen AT ALL. I mean you can stand there for 5-10-20 minutes asking him to stop touching this or put that down and NOTHING. You yell - he responds. (No, there is nothing wrong with his hearing). He gets into EVERYTHING. He got into my room after I thought he was in bed and used pens and markers to draw on my computer screen of my brand new laptop. Time outs don't work, yelling doesn't work.... I can't re-direct him, bc I don't always see what he is doing until after he already did it. Thoughts/suggestions/ideas??? You've just described my 2.5 year old son. He has to constantly be watched or he just gets into everything. I don't have 5 minutes peace. There is no way I can do something like cook a meal without the house being destroyed. I'm hoping it's just his age and once he gets a bit older he can self-occupy more. Also, I think a lot of the time he does this just because he wants me playing with him or giving him attention at all times when I'm home. He needs to learn that just isn't possible. He does have good days where he listens more, so I know it's possible. I'm sorry I don't have any real advice, just sympathy. Good luck
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Dec 4, 2012 9:07:31 GMT -5
I am not a fan of spanking, but even if I was it wouldn't work. He took keys out of my purse and started my car that was in a driveway (I have a remote starter) and I very slightly slapped his hand. That was a few weeks ago. He did it again yesterday.....
Kgb, I don't know if I deserve any kuddos...I found out about my laptop after he fell asleep....so I didn't wake him up.....
Beth, I don't know if I'll live that long.......
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Dec 4, 2012 9:22:04 GMT -5
<Maybe it's a good think I don't have a remote starter for my van....> Lena. You'll make it. Somehow.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2012 9:31:57 GMT -5
Holy cow about starting the car! Maybe you can block him off in one room to limit the damage? When my kids were those ages we contained them in the finished basement (which was pretty much their playroom). Keep your keys, purse, whatever else you don't want him to get into up high or locked in your bedroom.
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Post by kgb18 on Dec 4, 2012 12:53:42 GMT -5
I have used spanking on a very limited basis with Avery. I don't like it, but I have found it to be very effective. One night she was not listening at all, so I gave her a choice, either do what I told you or get a spanking. She looked right at me and said, "Spanking." I said, "I don't think you really want a spanking." Again she said, "Spanking." So I did. She learned a lesson. I only threaten with it if I'm prepared to follow through, but usually now if I give her a choice of listen or spanking, she listens.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Dec 4, 2012 13:59:30 GMT -5
Yeah, I try to follow though too. DH is more inconsistent, in my opinion, and gets less results than me.
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