Feb.1,2011 Market 66%-80% OVERVALUED or PONZI

[decoy409]

Why certainly, the Casino may be payoing out currently. After all, last years CBO Report states to 'HOLD THE MARKET AT ALL COST.'

When does the House of Cards come crashing down? One thing is for sure, this PONZI game is coming to a close.

Quote: The mean-adjusted charts above indicate that the market remains significantly overvalued by historical standards — by about 66% in the arithmetic-adjusted version and 80% in the geometric-adjusted version. Of course periods of over- and under-valuation can last for many years at a time, so the Q Ratio is not a useful indicator short-term investment timelines. This metrics is more appropriate for formulating expectations for long-term market performance. As we can see in the next chart, the current level of Q has been associated with several market tops in history — the Tech Bubble being the notable exception
That is from yesterdays 'Business Insider.'

[decoy409]

Oh and I should add some great developments are being made in this area! The vaccum has gotten a new bag!

[kman]

Several market tops? How many is several? Just like the weather man, aint nobody paying this guy to be correct.

[decoy409]

'When it rains, it pours' , Morton Salt.

[decoy409]

Try to get some credibility backing this boiling over stew pot. Forget it. All you will get is NOTHING more than a 'you don't know anything' from those pumping the SHAM-WoW.
Why she goes, they go to! So instead of being honest and truthful than it is easier just to continue to bleed it dry at whatever expense that occurs from doing so.
In turn they are no different as to that CBO report as to 'Hold The Markets At ALL Cost' as they contribute to the demise.
Have to keep that investor confidence, so don't be truthful is all that is saying.

[decoy409]

Ha, imagine that. Today's IMF news. Go figure hey.

[decoy409]

I think that the debate over Gold and Silver has had enough debate. Now we shall just watch what happens.
Enough explaining has been done as to the position. So I leave it as it was said today,

Quote from fti : Oh well I am so glad you settled that....come back in the day light and expalin that to these assholes

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[reasonfreedom]

I am stocking up on the Yuan, since the dollar is going to crash eventually.

[midwesterner (banned)]

I am stocking up on the Yuan, since the dollar is going to crash eventually.

That's probably better choice, but it's still paper. It's a one world fiat system backed by nothing. What's to say the yuan is going to retain purchasing power when the world reserve currency loses value??

I'd put more into gold and silver then extra money into offshore accounts or currency. Just a thought.

[decoy409]

The all mighty dollar was dead long ago. We have been in 'Extend and Pretend' territory for years.
These reports (as they call them) turned loose are not keeping up with the credibility that they so desire. We is running on 'Investor Confidence.' And that is very funny all in it's own as a pull out by the majorityy of investors that have taken the side line has already happened and more every day.

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Feb 2, 2011 11:51:04 GMT -5 reasonfreedom said:

I am stocking up on the Yuan, since the dollar is going to crash eventually.

How are you stocking up on the Yuan? I read a story that one of the ways the Chinese government keeps the Yuan low is to restrict foreigners from holding the Yuan and it makes it almost impossible to do so.

A lot of "experts" expect the Chinese government to eventually loosen their restrictions which should cause the Yuan to have a big increase in value.

[reasonfreedom]

Feb 2, 2011 12:12:37 GMT -5 ArchietheDragon said:

Feb 2, 2011 11:51:04 GMT -5 reasonfreedom said:

I am stocking up on the Yuan, since the dollar is going to crash eventually.

How are you stocking up on the Yuan? I read a story that one of the ways the Chinese government keeps the Yuan low is to restrict foreigners from holding the Yuan and it makes it almost impossible to do so.

A lot of "experts" expect the Chinese government to eventually loosen their restrictions which should cause the Yuan to have a big increase in value.

black market

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Feb 2, 2011 12:14:48 GMT -5 reasonfreedom said:

Feb 2, 2011 12:12:37 GMT -5 ArchietheDragon said:

How are you stocking up on the Yuan? I read a story that one of the ways the Chinese government keeps the Yuan low is to restrict foreigners from holding the Yuan and it makes it almost impossible to do so.

A lot of "experts" expect the Chinese government to eventually loosen their restrictions which should cause the Yuan to have a big increase in value.

black market

Very nice.. You should do well over the next decade or two.

[reasonfreedom]

Feb 2, 2011 11:54:40 GMT -5 midwesterner (banned) said:

I am stocking up on the Yuan, since the dollar is going to crash eventually.

That's probably better choice, but it's still paper. It's a one world fiat system backed by nothing. What's to say the yuan is going to retain purchasing power when the world reserve currency loses value??

I'd put more into gold and silver then extra money into offshore accounts or currency. Just a thought.

I won't keep the yuan, I just think when the dollar crashes the yuan will bump up huge and then I can make a huge amount on perishable goods. If you think about it though, a lot of companies do their manufacturing over in China and their distribution here. If you make the items and have them, wouldn't you be more valuable or have more bargaining chips to deal with?

[reasonfreedom]

Feb 2, 2011 12:16:49 GMT -5 ArchietheDragon said:

Feb 2, 2011 12:14:48 GMT -5 reasonfreedom said:

black market

Very nice.. You should do well over the next decade or two.

lol, anything and everything for the black market. Taxes are over rated.

[Whats Up]

Hey it's Decoy 409! I can not have access anymore except for posting like this. But their our a few other ways as well.

Why they just don't like it when you bring the fruits of labor to the table do they. I like the trash talk above by alphabet. But as you know the blueprint in the article is laid out and so the charts certainly can not be denied.
However, if you want to call the article trash, then you will have to call the market PONZI. Because the charts correspond to the market.

[decoy409]

That's Better.

[decoy409]

What is that distant cry I hear? Oh never mind, unrelevant. Look at that silly debt note again today trying to make moves on the board. This is a great Chess Game!

[frankq]

OOOOps! Gold down again today. Shucks......

[frankq]

Just curious Decoy, what do you do for a living?

[decoy409]

Well I speak to those such as yourself from time to time.

[maui1]

Dont hold your breath. Yeah sure, the Dow is going to drop to the 2400 to 3600. The odds of this idiotic prediction coming true is "0".

It is stuff like this post that destroys any credibility that the D$G posters might have have, if they ever had any to begin with. In order to have any credibility there has to be at least a small amount of reality to a prediction or call. Posting this type of garbage is,...... well,......... garbage.i heard this same thing when the dow was at 14k and we were saying "watch out" the market is going to tumble.

[decoy409]

I take it you are a doom and gloomer. Good luck with that!

[jarhead1976]

If preparing for the worst and hoping for the best is being a "D&Ger" then I am one! "There is nothing wrong with keeping you eyes open and your mouth shut. It is the only way to learn anything."

[silverguy25]

I think its a good idea to be prepared for anything. If this stock market is another bubble, its a more dangerous one than ever before. Because its not just a market bubble, its a government one too. US is all in.

I see it as no coincidence that the market is going up solely because of fed reserve pumping. Why would anyone see it differently? A little over 2 years ago the market was in full meltdown and only righted itself by the fed dumping loads of cash on the problem. They're still doing the same thing as then.

What if Bernanke got on television tonight and announced that he was cancelling any future QE or any version of it indefinitely?

Would the market still go up? Someone convince me that it would with some serious facts, otherwise I think the fed admitted there was a serious problem by even commencing QE2. What other reason would there be for it?

[decoy409]

silverguy25, those are some dandy points above. But I seriously doubt 'anybody' will answer them.

[maui1]

Itake it you are a doom and gloomer. Good luck with that
if i am......then i am.

all i know, is that you can't borrow your way out of debt........you just can't!

[decoy409]

maui1, I waited to hear how you would reply to that. You are like me and MILLIONS of others here in the US (in one respect) as well as around the world. We were raised with morals and taught the importance of paying a debt with actual earnings made to do so.
And the story of borrowing from Peter to pay Paul comes to mind once again.

Did you catch the toxic waste purchases in my post last night? We will be holding the bag double of China and Japan shortly. Now when that happens (as we are already half way there) hyperinflation will kick in, not if.
Then you and I and others can give a sick chuckle as to Market Up! Profit Up! I do believe you understand between the lines here as to, 'from where.' That virtual pointer will be sticking out like the great Peshtigo fire of 1871. Darn cow.

[maui1]

transferring debt from our banks to the fed does nothing to fix the problem. all it is doing is transferring private losses to public losses.

you can say the the public can hold onto these debts until they are no longer debts, but it costs money to hold debt.

right now we pay 5 billion a day to hold the 14 trillion in debt we have now.

[decoy409]

maui1, why of course it does. And the great part about it is the vicious circle around the track over and over and over. Sure you can adjust the plug in the drain from time to time but the water is still going down it unless you literally plug it.
And it has not been, only the ILLUSION from time to time. The House allows winners, it keeps illusion running strong while the water continues to go down the drain.
As I said, the fruit is ripe, and if not picked will spoil.