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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 20, 2011 17:35:21 GMT -5
Seems some Dictators semi get it, especially when military says , retirement time, lets go...then there are others...Libya, 200 dead so far and still counting.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ news.yahoo.com/s/ap/af_libya_protests;_ylt=AlqVFSszUzBn7d5kcu7JjHcH_b4F;_ylu=X3oDMTM1Y29jMDh2BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTEwMjIwL2FmX2xpYnlhX3Byb3Rlc3RzBGNjb2RlA21wX2VjXzhfMTAEY3BvcwMxBHBvcwMxBHNlYwN5bl90b3Bfc3RvcmllcwRzbGsDbGlieWFsYXVuY2hl------------------------------------------------------------------------- ".Libya launches harshest crackdown yet on rebels By SARAH EL DEEB, Associated Press Sarah El Deeb, Associated Press – 11 mins ago CAIRO – Security forces loyal to Libya's Moammar Gadhafi unleashed heavy gunfire Sunday on thousands marching in a rebellious eastern city, cutting down mourners trying to bury victims in a bloody cycle of violence that has killed more than 200 people in the fiercest crackdown on the uprisings in the Arab world. Protests were even reported to have spread to downtown Tripoli and a coastal city only about 45 miles (about 70 kilometers) to the west of the capital. In Benghazi, site of the funeral clashes, pro-Gadhafi forces were chased from a presidential compound by other troops sympathetic to the anti-government demonstrators, a witness said. Western countries expressed concern at the rising violence against demonstrators in oil-rich Libya, which is sandwiched between friendly neighbors Egypt and Tunisia — where long-serving leaders were successfully toppled in recent weeks. British Foreign Secretary William Hague said he told Gadhafi's son, Seif al-Islam, that the country must embark on "dialogue and implement reforms," the Foreign Office said. In the first-known defection from Gadhafi's regime, Libya's representative to the Arab League said he resigned his post to protest his government's decision to fire on defiant demonstrators in the second-largest city of Benghazi. Also, a major tribe in Libya was reported to have turned against Gadhafi. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- {Clink on links for article}
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 20, 2011 20:18:45 GMT -5
MMM , no didn't see that one Krick...1.4 Billion...ok, lots have something else planned for Sunday, go to the park with kids, visit{gag} mother in law..but still..enough all of a sudden saying , Hey, hear about the little commotion down town , lets check it out...and before you know it, 436 million are moving down town picking up the chant.."more food, we want Pepsi, McDonalds sucks...and then some one ads .."down with the reds..down with the reds"..." Yeah I can see why they, leaders over there, might be worried .
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 20, 2011 20:53:02 GMT -5
Gadhafi isn't going to get it. He's always been a sort of loose cannon, and I don't imagine that's changed much. He'll go his own way, and will do what he wishes. If what he wishes is to murder half his own population, he won't hesitate.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2011 21:38:19 GMT -5
www.thenewage.co.za/10953-1020-53-US_must_be_removed_from_Islamic_world_KhameneiFeb 20 2011 10:17PM US must be removed from Islamic world: Khamenei Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei on Sunday called on Muslims to "remove" the US from the Islamic world. "The main problem in the Muslim world is the presence of the United States. It is the biggest problem. We need to address that," he told a gathering of Shiite and Sunni scholars in Tehran for an international conference on Islam. "It is necessary to remove the US from the Islamic world," the all-powerful cleric and Islamic republic's commander-in-chief said, adding that the country's arch-foe was currently weak. Khamenei urged Muslims worldwide to preserve the "people's movement in Egypt," saying it was the duty of both the people and dignitaries of Arab nations and the entire Islamic community. He reiterated that the Arab revolts were "Islamic" and must be consolidated. "The enemies try to say that the popular movements in Egypt, Tunisia and other nations are un-Islamic, but certainly these popular movements are Islamic and must be consolidated," he said. Khamenei also urged that "the conspiracy of enemies to create differences between Sunnis and Shiites" be confronted. On February 4, in his Friday prayer sermon, Khamenei called for an Islamic regime to be installed in Egypt, a week before that country's strongman Hosni Mubarak was ousted. Iranian officials expressed support for the uprising in the Arab world's most populous nation. -Sapa-AFP (entire article posted)
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 20, 2011 22:08:57 GMT -5
www.thenewage.co.za/10953-1020-53-US_must_be_removed_from_Islamic_world_KhameneiFeb 20 2011 10:17PM US must be removed from Islamic world: Khamenei Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei on Sunday called on Muslims to "remove" the US from the Islamic world. "The main problem in the Muslim world is the presence of the United States. It is the biggest problem. We need to address that," he told a gathering of Shiite and Sunni scholars in Tehran for an international conference on Islam. "It is necessary to remove the US from the Islamic world," the all-powerful cleric and Islamic republic's commander-in-chief said, adding that the country's arch-foe was currently weak. Khamenei urged Muslims worldwide to preserve the "people's movement in Egypt," saying it was the duty of both the people and dignitaries of Arab nations and the entire Islamic community. He reiterated that the Arab revolts were "Islamic" and must be consolidated. "The enemies try to say that the popular movements in Egypt, Tunisia and other nations are un-Islamic, but certainly these popular movements are Islamic and must be consolidated," he said. Khamenei also urged that "the conspiracy of enemies to create differences between Sunnis and Shiites" be confronted. On February 4, in his Friday prayer sermon, Khamenei called for an Islamic regime to be installed in Egypt, a week before that country's strongman Hosni Mubarak was ousted. Iranian officials expressed support for the uprising in the Arab world's most populous nation. -Sapa-AFP (entire article posted) Isn't it unbelievable, he can talk about other uprisings..yet no mention of what is happening out his front door..these pople live in their own world..strange and so dangerouse.
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 20, 2011 22:13:51 GMT -5
The Iranians are definitely an odd bunch, dez. They're really very diverse, as compared to someplace like Saudi Arabia. They're more individualistic than the Saudis ... at least, they were during the Shah's time. I imagine a good deal of that has been squashed out of them under the leadership they've had since.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2011 22:46:09 GMT -5
Yeah, Dez. Some of the things we hear said out of the Iranian leadership just sound unreal to me. It is hard for me, as an American, to believe people can even think that way. Gadhafi talking crazy this week, too. Scary thing is even if something better happens, they are still far away from where we are as far as accepting differences and freedom for all-- so we will still be in danger from these people. Surely not in my lifetime, but I wonder if it will ever end? Or if we should forget all this freedom for everyone stuff and just let them all kill each other off-- look after our own. Not like we do not have a world of hurt in this country. But then I remember Israel, and, in my heart, I cannot condone another holocaust of the Jews.
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 20, 2011 22:49:22 GMT -5
The Iranians are definitely an odd bunch, dez. They're really very diverse, as compared to someplace like Saudi Arabia. They're more individualistic than the Saudis ... at least, they were during the Shah's time. I imagine a good deal of that has been squashed out of them under the leadership they've had since. Funny you should say that, I was just browsing through some posts on this site, see below, I will leave it for you, you might want to keep it some where, I have mine on the desk top, best one I have found on Iran, allows you to post back, it gives you a feeling for the people, for the food too, been craving ke bobs.. they are a 1000 some each , LOL, author was in a street cafe, LOL, but in reaing the comments it;s as if your there walking the streets. www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbureau/
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 20, 2011 22:52:52 GMT -5
Thanks, dez. I'll definitely make a visit to that site. It would be great to talk to Iranian people again. It's been a lot of years, but I remember many with fondness. When the revolution started, the troops parked tanks at the radio station not far from our home. As I was walking to visit a friend, I passed one of these tanks. On it stood an Iranian soldier with a gun. In the barrel of the gun was a flower. It's an image I'll never forget.
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 20, 2011 23:02:19 GMT -5
Thanks, dez. I'll definitely make a visit to that site. It would be great to talk to Iranian people again. It's been a lot of years, but I remember many with fondness. When the revolution started, the troops parked tanks at the radio station not far from our home. As I was walking to visit a friend, I passed one of these tanks. On it stood an Iranian soldier with a gun. In the barrel of the gun was a flower. It's an image I'll never forget. I know rates have changed , just did a google but couldn't find out what the equivalent was..a ke bob was 1000 tomans and was wondering what that would be american...I know there are reals, get thee are two kinds of currency...but if you have a rough guess of what that ke bob is i'll buy you one..wonder what kind of meat..lamb or goat i would think..there was a picture..a kebaob and whote rice was served..long one to.
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 20, 2011 23:48:45 GMT -5
Have no clue what a kebob would be today, dez. They are delicious, though, as were the shwarmas in Saudi. Some of their foods are not to our tastes, generally, but some are absolutely delicious. For the most part, kebabs are made, as you say, of lamb, or mutton. Some are made with goat, and some with beef. There's always rice.
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 21, 2011 9:46:06 GMT -5
The latest from 'Libya" is not good...this is starting to turn into a real civil war with bullets being fired, not in the air but at people. 13 security forces, found shot, handcuffed and set on fire, some saying shot by other security forces because they would not fire on protesters, and reports of some security forces joining the protesters. Libya is a country were tribal loyalty are important , there has always been a rift between the largest tribe and Gadafi, and they, the largest tribe has thrown their support to the protestors thus a civil war could take place here. Gaddafi's son goes on TV vowing to fight to the last bullet , last man, woman, child.. a bit nuts but also very dangerous. Sons of Gaddafi are very involved in leadership roles, possible it's they who want to keep he control, Gaddafi himself, while not wishing to leave, is also older, sicker and it's the sons who are really afraid of losing power. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110221/ap_on_re_af/af_libya_protests------------------------------------------------------------ ..Libya: Protesters, security clash in capital CAIRO – Libyan protesters celebrated in the streets of Benghazi on Monday, claiming control of the country's second largest city after bloody fighting, and anti-government unrest spread to the capital with clashes in Tripoli's main square for the first time. Moammar Gadhafi's son vowed that his father and security forces would fight "until the last bullet." Even as Seif al-Islam Gadhafi spoke on state TV Sunday night, clashes were raging in and around Tripoli's central Green Square, lasting until dawn Monday, witnesses said. They reported snipers opening fire on crowds trying to seize the square, and Gadhafi supporters speeding through in vehicles, shooting and running over protesters. Before dawn, protesters took over the offices of two of the multiple state-run satellite news channels, witnesses said. --------------------------------------------------------------------- {click on link to read article}
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 23, 2011 16:43:56 GMT -5
Back to Egypt again..the latest from ABC.....Mubarak and family , a thief yes , but not as much of a thief as was reported ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ abcnews.go.com/Blotter/hosni-mubaraks-wealth-thief-big-thief/story?id=12897677&nwltr=blotter_featureMore------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hosni Mubarak's Wealth: He's a Thief, But Not That Big a Thief Egypt's Former President Worth 'Only' $5 Billion, Says U.S. Intelligence; By BRIAN ROSS Feb. 11, 2011 deposed Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and his family have a fortune of $1 billion to $5 billion stashed in foreign banks, according to U.S. intelligence estimates -- a significantly lower figure than most recent estimates of the wealth accumulated by Mubarak during his 30 years in power. Some experts have estimated that the Mubarak family has a net worth as high as $70 billion, while others have reported $40 billion, but U.S. intelligence sources told ABC News that the real number is probably much lower. A senior U.S. official said she "had no clue" why estimates circulating in the media in recent weeks were so much higher. "Maybe they're counting in dinars," she said -------------------------------------------------------------- {click on link for article} ---------------------------------------------------------- Heres a tidbit I pulled from the article that i think has to be high lighted...where was the Tea Party when we really needed them...can you believe this one.....Can't blame Obama on this one......am sure it was before his time..wonder when...... ----------------------------------------------------------- "The U.S government helped with some $335 million of taxpayer money for the nine Gulfstream luxury jets that made up the Egyptian Presidential fleet. ---------------------------------------------------------- "Son of a Bxxxx, is all I can say...... Any one want to add to that.
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 1, 2011 12:58:23 GMT -5
A article on how 'Mubarak " and friends started aquiting wealth..this one is small potatoes compared to what is probably hidden, but all large trees have to start some where, and this my have been one of the seeds that got the tree growing. Since there were people jailed , Americans, there must have been some truth to it, and for once certain folks can't blame Obama, started in the 80's , in fact not sure if it could be laid at Georges feet either.{shucks} ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ abcnews.go.com/Blotter/mubaraks-money-front-man-hussein-salem/story?id=12985639&nwltr=blotter_subfeatureMore------------------------------------------------------------------- March 1, 2011 Investigators in Egypt begin the hunt for Hosni Mubarak's fortune, the former president's involvement in an early 1980s arms scandal could provide clues to how he and his family amassed their estimated billions through decades of alleged kickback schemes and corrupt business dealings. The scandal revolved around a federal probe into allegations that a firm transporting American arms to Egypt had embezzled millions of dollars under an exclusive Pentagon contract established following the historic Camp David peace agreement with Israel in 1978. There were many, many weapons, and billions of dollars in armaments that needed to be shipped. It was an enormous job," says Ibrahim Oweiss, a Georgetown University professor and an economist who headed Egypt's economic mission to the U.S. at the time. Within three years of founding a company known as the Egyptian American Transport and Service, or EATSCO, an Egyptian businessman named Hussein Salem and his American partner were under federal investigation on charges they ripped off the U.S. government by padding the shipping costs for the arms by $8 million." ---------------------------------------------------------- {click on link to read article}
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