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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2011 12:13:54 GMT -5
hhmmm... right down the road from me. I've been there many times on medical runs in my cab. It is wide open desert, with Border Patrol scattered around, no fences there, no surveillance in that area... I've been stopped in my cab several times coming back in to Tucson from that area... some cab drivers cannot resist the allure and profit of smuggling humans and drugs in from Mexico.... GEE-- I wonder if the ones that left that terrorist book were coming to pick tomatoes?? BP is always finding prayer rugs, Korans, etc, out in the desert, along the migrant trails. All they have to do is look right and they can pass as regular old illegals from Mexico. www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/27/iranian-book-celebrating-suicide-bombers-arizona-desert/ |
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 27, 2011 12:31:47 GMT -5
One could probably find used condoms in that area too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2011 12:34:20 GMT -5
Yeah, Tenn. Keep smirking. We have no problems whatsoever in AZ, except for the open borders. Gotta keep that flow of future Democrats rolling in.. and a few terrorists here and there. No big deal, right?
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 27, 2011 12:40:24 GMT -5
Arizona has lots of problems krickitt-including its gun stores selling weapons to Arizona citizens and legal residents who then smuggle the guns over the U.S./Mexican border to the drug cartels.
What's up with that!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2011 12:47:03 GMT -5
So true, Tenn. I drove a young lady not long ago that got busted carry a large load of bullets across the border to her boyfriend back home. There are many thousands of people that cross back and forth over the borders, legally, every single week, to see their families. Yep-- lots of crime goes with having such a porous border. Much inside help is needed to get these large numbers of illegals in day after day after day. Money and weapons going in buys passage for drugs and humans coming out.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2011 12:48:12 GMT -5
Arizona has lots of problems krickitt-including its gun stores selling weapons to Arizona citizens and legal residents who then smuggle the guns over the U.S./Mexican border to the drug cartels. What's up with that! So what's your genius solution? Also, why is it the gun store is in the wrong according to you? (FOOLISH) You yourself have stated they are selling the weapons to LEGAL citizens and those citizens are then selling or giving them to illegals. Here's a novel idea: Instead of blaming the gun store or guns in general....why don't we blame the people arming the illegals.....I believe that would be the LEGAL citizens wouldn't it....in your own words. |
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Post by ugonow on Jan 27, 2011 12:50:37 GMT -5
Sounds to me like it is Obamas fault------"Authorities say there is nothing illegal about gun shops selling guns to people who meet the requirements for owning a weapon. But Burke expressed frustration at the willingness of some dealers to sell guns to suspicious buyers then cooperate with investigators.
"Sometimes it might be a gun shop owner saying, Hey, I just sold this guy 10 AK-47s. Of course I sold them, and now I'm going to tell you that I'm a little suspicious about it," Burke said.
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has asked the White House to require gun dealers near the Mexican border to report the sales of two or more higher powered rifles to the same customer within a five-day period. The agency's request has yet to be approved."
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 27, 2011 12:55:09 GMT -5
Arizona has lots of problems krickitt-including its gun stores selling weapons to Arizona citizens and legal residents who then smuggle the guns over the U.S./Mexican border to the drug cartels. What's up with that! So what's your genius solution? Also, why is it the gun store is in the wrong according to you? (FOOLISH) You yourself have stated they are selling the weapons to LEGAL citizens and those citizens are then selling or giving them to illegals. Here's a novel idea: Instead of blaming the gun store or guns in general....why don't we blame the people arming the illegals.....I believe that would be the LEGAL citizens wouldn't it....in your own words. Financialtexan-you know what happens when you assume-you make an ass out of at least u. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2011 12:56:30 GMT -5
So what's your genius solution? Also, why is it the gun store is in the wrong according to you? (FOOLISH) You yourself have stated they are selling the weapons to LEGAL citizens and those citizens are then selling or giving them to illegals. Here's a novel idea: Instead of blaming the gun store or guns in general....why don't we blame the people arming the illegals.....I believe that would be the LEGAL citizens wouldn't it....in your own words. Financialtexan-you know what happens when you assume-you make an ass out of at least u. And yet I was using things that YOU posted....So who's the ASS? |
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 27, 2011 12:59:19 GMT -5
Financialtexan-you know what happens when you assume-you make an ass out of at least u. And yet I was using things that YOU posted....So who's the ASS? Um I don't believe you were. Where did I say the gun shops were doing anything illegal? I will wait here while you find and post it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2011 13:09:24 GMT -5
I'm with Tex on this one. The gun stores are not the issue here. It is the criminals and open borders at issue.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 27, 2011 13:09:44 GMT -5
Leaving this thread now-I waited long enough. I may be back later.
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Post by burnsattornincan on Jan 27, 2011 13:14:49 GMT -5
How did that door feel?
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Post by dmsm on Jan 27, 2011 14:00:33 GMT -5
The issue was a very sick man , not the gun stores not illegals no matter how much some want it to be.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2011 14:02:01 GMT -5
And yet I was using things that YOU posted....So who's the ASS? Um I don't believe you were. Where did I say the gun shops were doing anything illegal? I will wait here while you find and post it. Some of us can't be on here all day long.....some of us have work to do. (In regards to your waited long enough comment) I'll grant you that you didn't (EXACTLY) post that the gun shops were doing anything illegal. However, you posted in such a way that makes others believe that you think the gun shops are somehow responsible for weapons getting in to the hands of drug cartels and other criminals hands. Yet, again, YOU posted that the gun shops are selling to LEGAL citizens and those LEGAL citizens are the ones getting the guns to the criminals or illegals. Do tell why OR why not gun shops are responsible for getting guns in the hands of criminals if they've kept their end of the bargain as far as local, state, and federal laws are concerned. |
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Post by floridayankee on Jan 27, 2011 14:04:47 GMT -5
And yet I was using things that YOU posted....So who's the ASS? Um I don't believe you were. Where did I say the gun shops were doing anything illegal? I will wait here while you find and post it. In the "Obama To Enter Gun Control Debate" thread.... Yes. Arizona gun shops should stop selling guns to illegal Mexicans. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2011 14:08:52 GMT -5
Um I don't believe you were. Where did I say the gun shops were doing anything illegal? I will wait here while you find and post it. In the "Obama To Enter Gun Control Debate" thread.... Yes. Arizona gun shops should stop selling guns to illegal Mexicans. That burn was brought to you by the letter S....for SNAP!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2011 14:14:28 GMT -5
LOL!!! I think the law prohibits the sale to people that cannot provide correct documentation of several things. I'm sure illegals are covered in that. Sometimes I have to laugh... now the gun shops are selling to illegals?? Well-- if they are it is because the bleeding heart libs enable them to get false documents, steal identities, and all that fun stuff... you know, because all of us weird people that want the borders closed and the immigration laws enforced are all racist and all that shit, so we must be enemies of justice and equality, so the illegals DESERVE to be able to come work at McDonalds so's they can feed their bambinos............  |
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 27, 2011 14:23:35 GMT -5
"So, naturally, in the NFL's world of suspended adolescence, one of the most popular ways for teammates to torture each other is to steal or hide each other's playbooks. "You have to guard that thing with your life," Ravens wideout Derrick Mason says. "It's like gold." Actually, playbooks are slightly heavier and a bit more expensive. The fine for losing your playbook ranges from $100 a page to $8,000." sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=fleming/080117&sportCat=nflWonder what the fine is in the Terrorist's world?  |
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Post by floridayankee on Jan 27, 2011 15:09:08 GMT -5
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 27, 2011 15:23:31 GMT -5
Um I don't believe you were. Where did I say the gun shops were doing anything illegal? I will wait here while you find and post it. In the "Obama To Enter Gun Control Debate" thread.... Yes. Arizona gun shops should stop selling guns to illegal Mexicans. Floridayankee-I wrote that before additional information was released as to the names and nationalities of those who were indicted by the State of Arizona. |
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Post by ed1066 on Jan 27, 2011 15:35:37 GMT -5
That's a border control problem, not a gun sales problem...
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Post by ed1066 on Jan 27, 2011 15:39:24 GMT -5
Gun ownership is severely restricted in Mexico. The average private citizen cannot legally buy a handgun or ammunition in most places in Mexico. Even hunting rifles are iffy as well, depending on the location. That's why the crime rate in Mexico is so low, right, liberals???
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Post by ugonow on Jan 27, 2011 15:47:48 GMT -5
Laws also make it illegal for a convicted felon to own a gun. To bad felons don't always follow law.
To bad there are so many willing to make a quick buck selling them to them.
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Post by floridayankee on Jan 27, 2011 16:09:18 GMT -5
Laws also make it illegal for a convicted felon to own a gun. To bad felons don't always follow law.
To bad there are so many willing to make a quick buck selling them to them. I'd imagine those doing the selling are not the legal owners or gun shops. So basically, stricter gun laws will only keep guns from those that own/carry/use them legally while the ones that we should be concerned about will still get them since they don't give a rats ass about the law anyway. |
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Post by ed1066 on Jan 27, 2011 17:03:48 GMT -5
This is true, and the gun ownership restrictions on law-abiding Mexicans makes them sitting ducks for the cartels. Gun laws do NOTHING to stop criminals from getting guns. Mexico is a perfect example of that, as you have helpfully pointed out...
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Post by sesfw on Jan 27, 2011 19:07:17 GMT -5
'So what's your genius solution?'
Make a 10 mile wide US ArmyNational Guard gunnery range the full 2,000 mile length of the US/Mexican border.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 27, 2011 19:12:11 GMT -5
'So what's your genius solution?' Make a 10 mile wide US ArmyNational Guard gunnery range the full 2,000 mile length of the US/Mexican border. Wish someone would do the math on what this would cost for it to actually happen. |
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Post by pappyjohn99 on Jan 27, 2011 21:04:12 GMT -5
'So what's your genius solution?' Make a 10 mile wide US ArmyNational Guard gunnery range the full 2,000 mile length of the US/Mexican border. Wish someone would do the math on what this would cost for it to actually happen. If we would pull all of our troops from the hundreds of bases world wide and deploy them here in CONUS it would probably turn around the debt situation this country finds itself in. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2011 21:09:32 GMT -5
A book celebrating suicide bombers has been found in the Arizona desert just north of the U.S.- Mexican border, authorities tell Fox News.
Who is responsible for protecting our borders........The federal government. They aren't doing it. Why don't the states protect them......Cause the Federal government will sue them.
Maybe we should have suicide bombers here. Maybe we deserve what we are doing to ourselves.
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