deziloooooo
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Post by deziloooooo on Jan 22, 2011 20:22:54 GMT -5
Regarding the third , I am also adding the caveat, if tests show the fetus is damaged and most likely the child born will have seriouse mental problems , major life time health problems , most likely not being able to be cured, then the ability to abort is also able to be done , the same as the third option, Incest.Rape, health of the mother.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2011 20:32:01 GMT -5
Couldn't we just compromise on the issue. How about if we just waited to see what the kids will grow up & become & then decide if we want them to live. If we can compromise on this I already have a list of people that we can start the thinning out process with.
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Post by handyman2 on Jan 22, 2011 20:36:42 GMT -5
Old Tex that is the most logical solution I have seen to date. We can match lists and see if there is any duplications on em.
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Post by moon/Laura on Jan 22, 2011 20:43:52 GMT -5
why oh why are we going to have 2 arguments on this now?
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 22, 2011 20:47:18 GMT -5
One for [glow=red,2,300]ROE[/glow] One for [glow=blue,2,300]WADE[/glow]
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Post by Sammy on Jan 22, 2011 20:49:02 GMT -5
Old Tex as a great solution to board problems........ The Flushing Of The Toilet method.
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Post by Sammy on Jan 22, 2011 20:51:39 GMT -5
Dezi, you put up a poll??? Don't go hiding. I'll find you even though I am chasing you with a portable toilet under my arm........ You need a good RoeWad up the side of the head then a good flush.
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Post by deziloooooo on Jan 22, 2011 20:51:45 GMT -5
Not two arguments moon, actually , except for saying "hey all" here and to talk about the weather one is having, beautiful today but now a cold front moving in, just shut the windows and the heat went on, 72 this afternoon, cold front we don't like here, there is little to discuss, just vote . Discussion, so many , are on the other thread.
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Post by deziloooooo on Jan 22, 2011 20:55:28 GMT -5
Dezi, you put up a poll??? Don't go hiding. I'll find you even though I am chasing you with a portable toilet under my arm........ You need a good RoeWad up the side of the head then a good flush. What's wrong with a poll. To me know one is really listening to what others are saying unless they are what they believe. This way, one will know how most feel about the topic with out all the verbal that few want to understand, listen to unless it agrees with their own feelings. Still a place for the verbal, over there. Here it's a place to vote, talk about the weather as I told moon.
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Post by ed1066 on Jan 22, 2011 20:56:57 GMT -5
Define "health of the mother"...if the mother is depressed in her 8th month about having a baby and is having suicidal thoughts, is that a good enough reason to abort a baby in the 8th month? What about the 6th month?
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Post by Sammy on Jan 22, 2011 20:58:33 GMT -5
Yep, ok..........
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Post by moon/Laura on Jan 22, 2011 21:03:54 GMT -5
ed, depression probably is not what they're talking about when they say health.
some women can and do die due to pregnancy but don't always find out they're at risk until late. however, as someone pointed out on the other thread, i think i'd try delivering early if at all possible vs aborting.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 22, 2011 21:08:19 GMT -5
That would be your choice (for now at least).
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Post by moon/Laura on Jan 22, 2011 21:10:38 GMT -5
moot point.. i'm 44 and there is no way in hell i'm having any more babies.
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Post by Mad Dawg Wiccan on Jan 22, 2011 21:12:09 GMT -5
Define "health of the mother"...
Well for me (and me alone), I define it as something that endangers the life of the mother if the pregnancy continues. Like an ectopic pregnancy, which is generally a death sentence for both mother and child unless it is aborted. Abortions performed as retroactive birth control are just wrong. Arguments claiming "It's a woman's right" are a load of BS which discriminate against the father. As for the "It's my body, I can do what I want with it" spiel, try shooting up smack in front of the Police Department and see how far that will get you.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 22, 2011 21:14:12 GMT -5
moot point.. i'm 44 and there is no way in hell i'm having any more babies. moot point for me also
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2011 21:14:46 GMT -5
moot point.. i'm 44 and there is no way in hell i'm having any more babies. moot point for me also Dome dude on Oprah was pregnant.
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Post by deziloooooo on Jan 22, 2011 21:23:14 GMT -5
ed, depression probably is not what they're talking about when they say health. some women can and do die due to pregnancy but don't always find out they're at risk until late. however, as someone pointed out on the other thread, i think i'd try delivering early if at all possible vs aborting. All respect moon..this is ed your addressing, he already brought up that nonsense in the other thread, remember ed, ed , ed ...not wishing and not telling you who...it's ed, ed, ed.
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Post by safeharbor37 on Jan 22, 2011 21:25:14 GMT -5
The problem with Roe vs. Wade is not that it legalized abortion, but that it did so unconstitutionally. The appropriate approach is to overturn the ruling and turn the issue back over to the States where it belongs. [and nullify any rulings that have been made based on the fictional "right of privacy" which does exist in some State constitutions, but not in the Federal.]
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Post by deziloooooo on Jan 22, 2011 21:25:44 GMT -5
by the way...it's the only three votes your getting...up to you, pick or ignore. The other thread, my head was spinning.
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Post by ed1066 on Jan 22, 2011 23:44:52 GMT -5
It's too bad you would rather insult me than answer the question, dezi, I'm really interested to hear your answer, especially after you take some time to think about it...
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Post by marjar on Jan 22, 2011 23:52:40 GMT -5
Define "health of the mother"... As for the "It's my body, I can do what I want with it" spiel, try shooting up smack in front of the Police Department and see how far that will get you. One example is illegal, the other is not. Hi, dawg! Sorry, but I disagree with you on this one.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2011 23:52:49 GMT -5
The only problem with using the health of the mother is that they are pregnant. Almost every pregnant woman that I have been around wouldn't have passed a mental health exam. (at least as far as being in the normal range all the time). Our friends just had a baby. At 6 months the wife started "nesting". They worked for 2 weeks getting everything ready. Some of the items were "normal" like setting up the baby's room. Others were clean & organize the attic, change the oil on all vehicles (including motorcycles?) organize can goods, & the like. Her husband thought that she had gone nuts.
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Post by marjar on Jan 22, 2011 23:56:27 GMT -5
The only problem with using the health of the mother is that they are pregnant. Almost every pregnant woman that I have been around wouldn't have passed a mental health exam. (at least as far as being in the normal range all the time). Our friends just had a baby. At 6 months the wife started "nesting". They worked for 2 weeks getting everything ready. Some of the items were "normal" like setting up the baby's room. Others were clean & organize the attic, change the oil on all vehicles (including motorcycles?) organize can goods, & the like. Her husband thought that she had gone nuts. Why did he think she was nuts?
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Post by deziloooooo on Jan 23, 2011 0:39:18 GMT -5
It's too bad you would rather insult me than answer the question, dezi, I'm really interested to hear your answer, especially after you take some time to think about it... It's because I know you ed , so well , to well. What you do is stir the pot , your agenda...I won't play that game, usually, and especially with you.
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Post by ugonow on Jan 24, 2011 10:35:39 GMT -5
I always thought the ones with no horse in this race were the ones yelling the loudest.
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Post by ugonow on Jan 24, 2011 10:38:39 GMT -5
unborn Americans
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Post by ugonow on Jan 24, 2011 10:42:29 GMT -5
I grew up in a strict Catholic household. We were taught that not only should all abortions sshould be illegal,all forms of contraceptives should be ilegal also because you are killing the oportunity for a child to be born.It was the role of a woman to make her mate happy and bear the fruit of his loins. I now feel it is none of my business .
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2011 10:44:21 GMT -5
How does the pill factor into the abortion debate?
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Post by ugonow on Jan 24, 2011 10:48:39 GMT -5
I am against welfare states. People must learn to take care of themselves.Many unwanted or unplanned pregnancies end up in the welfare system. It is hypocritical of me to force people into carrying full term if they can't or don't want to.
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