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Post by Driftr on May 9, 2012 12:05:28 GMT -5
1.75. That one's gonna hurt for the next 10 years....
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Post by bimetalaupt on May 14, 2012 9:32:57 GMT -5
Yes, I'm seeing it too. And the drop in yields and rise in price on bonds. Sorry, I still say, cash...
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Post by bimetalaupt on May 16, 2012 20:49:32 GMT -5
Yes, I'm seeing it too. And the drop in yields and rise in price on bonds. Sorry, I still say, cash...
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-3.75% Getting closer to the 1.75% for the 10 year T-Note!! 10-Year Bond 1.765 % yield for the note 10 year -0.012 -0.68% |
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Post by Driftr on May 17, 2012 8:27:39 GMT -5
The Bund sure has been on a tear eh?
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Post by bimetalaupt on May 17, 2012 13:27:19 GMT -5
The Bund sure has been on a tear eh? YES!!!!! and so have t-notes 10 year is now above projection.. time to take some profits from the bonds and go into risk assets...Face Book with the 10% funny money. during the summer??? 10-Year Bond 1.704 -0.061 -3.46% The average return for risk at beta of now is now above 10%...Per the Expert 50/50 system..Current numbers as of 2:30 EDT.. EQUITY RETURN 10 Y 7.957974613615323100646037346451% 10 y note 1.701999999999999957367435854394% erp 6.255974613615322255100181791931% beta 1 erp 8.362778022641375486045944853686% market beta 1 10.064778022641377219770220108330% beta 1.18 11.570078066716824594095669453964% |
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Post by Driftr on May 17, 2012 14:04:42 GMT -5
I think you're right, but I'm not a bond trader. I'm a Note buyer and holder. Just not a very happy one these days. Things will change. They always do.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on May 18, 2012 2:09:08 GMT -5
Looks like the market is topping out at 1.772%...for the 10 year T-Note!!10-Year Bond
1.772
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Post by bimetalaupt on May 18, 2012 4:44:11 GMT -5
I think you're right, but I'm not a bond trader. I'm a Note buyer and holder. Just not a very happy one these days. Things will change. They always do. Benchmark 10-year German bond yields hit a record low of 1.396 percent and two-year yields also fell to their lowest-ever level at just 0.028 percent. |
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Post by bimetalaupt on May 18, 2012 12:54:56 GMT -5
Getting closer to the 1.75% for the 10 year T-Note!! 10-Year Bond 1.765 % yield for the note 10 year -0.012 -0.68% SO how much are you getting for all those bonds when stocks were hot BTI? ;D Get or Give.. March 10-year T-Note sold at 2.43% .. yield dropped to 1.702%.. Profits of some 9% on the trade..Vs Loss of some 12% for international holdings..Now on the shopping list.. |
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Post by bimetalaupt on May 23, 2012 12:26:42 GMT -5
Yes, I'm seeing it too. And the drop in yields and rise in price on bonds. Sorry, I still say, cash... TT, Now we should talk about TRUANTS.5%-.10% trades to keep the action in RE-Balance. .KASH is King. But Bonds are the house you live in!! 10-Year Bond
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30-Year Bond
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on May 27, 2012 0:08:01 GMT -5
SO how much are you getting for all those bonds when stocks were hot BTI? ;D Get or Give.. March 10-year T-Note sold at 2.43% .. yield dropped to 1.702%.. Profits of some 9% on the trade..Vs Loss of some 12% for international holdings..Now on the shopping list.. That's some get. All for buying bonds when everyone was buying stocks. Now you make 10% selling bonds and buying stocks when everyone says sells stocks. The bonus is these can be long term div players, so you can get some div on this system as well.... If you're trader, that is a sweet $$ trading system with lowered risk, JMO  |
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Post by Driftr on May 30, 2012 8:45:16 GMT -5
Bruce - seriously considering selling all the 10 years' we've been buying for the past 18 months and buying a rental house for cash. Or putting 50% down on a couple and financing the rest. These yields on the 10 year are nucking futs!
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Post by The Virginian on May 30, 2012 9:41:59 GMT -5
Drftr - Don't know your area but if you do buy a rental property look for the "worse house in the best neighborhood" Also if you can find a place that can be divided into two or more rentals then it will help protect you from deadbeat tenants or vacancies. Just a thought.
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Post by bimetalaupt on May 30, 2012 11:53:22 GMT -5
Bruce - seriously considering selling all the 10 years' we've been buying for the past 18 months and buying a rental house for cash. Or putting 50% down on a couple and financing the rest. These yields on the 10 year are nucking futs! Driftr, Well what more can I say.. "The market is never wrong" But I was .. moved too soon but only a small trount. Just a thought, Bruce CBOE Interest Rate 10-Year T-No (^TNX) -Chicago Options 1.62 Down 0.11(6.41%) 12:34PM EDT |
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Post by bimetalaupt on May 31, 2012 9:36:56 GMT -5
Again.. the ten year T-Note is at an all time high.. interest is down to an all time low..
10-Year Bond
1.58
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^TNX
EUR/USD
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+0.0016
+0.13%
EURUSD=X
Gold
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4.40
+0.28%
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Jun 1, 2012 2:44:56 GMT -5
Again.. the ten year T-Note is at an all time high.. interest is down to an all time low.. 10-Year Bond
1.58
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^TNX
EUR/USD
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EURUSD=X Gold
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Post by bimetalaupt on Jun 1, 2012 13:16:16 GMT -5
Who Me.. After all these comments on Bonds and the real meaning of bonds???
10-Year Bond
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SORRY but I never saw these low of interest on Expert System or MMXIIIGOLD.. Remember.. The market is never wrong but I love IBM and HD at theses prices more then bonds...
HELL.. At these Prices I love Pizza more.. BUT IT IS THE NONE-POSITIVE CORRELATION BETWEEN BONDS AND STOCKS I HAVE TALKED ABOUT..THIS PARRING IS THE MOST SIMPLE FINANCIAL SYSTEM TO REDUCE RISK.
WE HAVE POSTED LONG POST ON REDUCTION FOR RETIREMENT ACCOUNT.. RISK IS A FOUR LETTER WORD.. AS BEFORE WE ARE SEEING THE HEAD OF THE BLACK SWAN..I AM SORRY TO SAY!! EU IS UNDERWATER AND SO IS MOST OF THE SWAN....
THE NEXT GENERATION MMXIV HAS POSTED A 74% OPPORTUNITY OF THE FUTURE BACK SWAN EVENTS..SOON WE CAN SEE THE WHOLE SWAN FLYING WITH FRIENDS IN FORMATION OF THE DEATH CROSS!!!
Just a thought,
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Jun 3, 2012 0:34:03 GMT -5
YEP!! Just like Pizza we had today! ;D MMXIII missed it me thinks because gold is a wacky bubble. Flow says June bottom... Bonds go lower.. Stocks are better now for sure adding some SU to my kids port soon. You never lose money if you sell to soon...  25% is better though I hear ya..  Flow says QE.. I say Tibetans are on fire and the people are fed up. Good thing there is TRILLIONS in the bank and TRILLIONS in AAA USA bonds to help ease the biggest transition of 2012, and no I'm not talking about Obama's possible exit.... |
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25% is better though I hear ya.. 
