USDA ADMITS to POISONING of BIRDS

[decoy409]

What in the ****! Actually come out and tell you that they have ran the poison machine! Cover it with a B.S. excuse!

Quote: Warren Watkins/The Daily Citizen/AP/File

EnlargeThe United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) took responsibility for hundreds of dead starlings that were found on the ground and frozen in trees in a Yankton, S.D., park on Monday.
The USDA's Wildlife Services Program, which contracts with farmers for bird control, said it used an avicide poison called DRC-1339 to cull a roost of 5,000 birds that were defecating on a farmer's cattle feed across the state line in Nebraska. But officials said the agency had nothing to do with large and dense recent bird kills in Arkansas and Louisiana.
www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society/2011/0120/Bye-Bye-Blackbird-USDA-acknowledges-a-hand-in-one-mass-bird-death

[decoy409]

And keep this at top! Things are starting to come together. I hate that it is, but it is The News, 'OUR' News.

[Deleted]

I think I am missing why this is a big deal.

[decoy409]

You have to be kidding Arch? Just how did you become a Financial Moderator with no knowledge of Financials is what you are asking.

I am in over my head already, and I do know this. You simply must have been dismissing things and not paying attention.

Arch, is there truth to your so called being contacted by others and making you a bit worried?

[Deleted]

Jan 21, 2011 9:29:36 GMT -5 decoy409 said:

You have to be kidding Arch? Just how did you become a Financial Moderator with no knowledge of Financials is what you are asking.

I am in over my head already, and I do know this. You simply must have been dismissing things and not paying attention.

Arch, is there truth to your so called being contacted by others and making you a bit worried?

I became a moderator because of my level head, not my financial knowledge. I have a good base of basic personal financial knowledge but i am not an expert investor in any definition of the word.

But I definitely don't understand how the Department of Agriculture killing a bunch of birds is a big financial story.

And no, I was not contacted by anyone. I was just having a little fun.

[decoy409]

By chance did you or anybody else pay respects or even give consideration to,

John P. Wheeler III, Special Assistant to the Secretary of the Air Force, Washington, D.C. from 2005-2008, when he became the Special Assistant to the Acting Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for Installations, Logistics and Environment, was found brutally murdered and dumped.

quote:
Wheeler’s military career included writing one of the most important manuals on the effectiveness of biological and chemical weapons which led to his being hired in 2009 as a consultant to the Mitre Corporation, whose aviation system development department, the GRU reports, is at the forefront of creating the computer command and control systems used by the US Air Force in their fleet of aerial spraying planes

[Deleted]

What that message in response to something I wrote or a new thought?

[decoy409]

Enough said here. Enjoy your day. And make sure to stay Busy! Busy! You keep up the good work.

If you are just being ignorant let me know. If you are not, let me know as well.

[jarhead1976]

Seems Odd that first reports were fireworks took out the birds. Goebbels would be so proud of our American news coverage! Nothing better than the sound of birds over coffee on a Sunday morning! Archie If someone misrepresent the Truth with false propaganda, being not such a big deal, what else are they misrepresenting that is even worse?

[Deleted]

Jan 21, 2011 9:51:22 GMT -5 decoy409 said:

Enough said here. Enjoy your day. And make sure to stay Busy! Busy! You keep up the good work.

If you are just being ignorant let me know. If you are not, let me know as well.

I am not just being ignorant. You have a good day as well.

[decoy409]

jarhead, let's see if Arch answers your question as it is a good one!

Arch, what else are you being then?

[Deleted]

Jan 21, 2011 9:58:04 GMT -5 decoy409 said:

jarhead, let's see if Arch answers your question as it is a good one!

Arch, what else are you being then?

Good point. I should have said I am not being purposefully ignorant.

[Deleted]

Jan 21, 2011 9:54:30 GMT -5 @jarhead1976 said:

Seems Odd that first reports were fireworks took out the birds. Goebbels would be so proud of our American news coverage! Nothing better than the sound of birds over coffee on a Sunday morning! Archie If someone misrepresent the Truth with false propaganda, being not such a big deal, what else are they misrepresenting that is even worse?

I admit, I have not been following the death of blackbirds in South Dakota, so I never heard the first news story that it was fireworks.

[decoy409]

No foul, was just asking.

jarhead asks you this. How about a answer?

Quote: Seems Odd that first reports were fireworks took out the birds. Goebbels would be so proud of our American news coverage! Nothing better than the sound of birds over coffee on a Sunday morning! Archie If someone misrepresent the Truth with false propaganda, being not such a big deal, what else are they misrepresenting that is even worse?

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[neohguy]

Bird poisoning has been going on forever. I remember when Cleveland used to cull the pigeon population by poison. No need to do that anymore because people catch them with string traps and eat them.

[decoy409]

And they use Phosgene to do it. Correct Neo?

As well there is no corrolation with any of this and the massive ongoing as of today animal and fish,bird die offs. I am not saying that the post above is all in but I am saying that Corexit is killing off a large swath along with a few other tools created.

[Deleted]

You guys see shadows everywhere...and conspiracies everywhere

Damn...its a wonder how you all manage to exist in a normal everyday life

Animals are killed daily! Many reasons...animal population control, nuisance, eating crops, etc

This is NOT a big deal....

[decoy409]

Hi Puppet pal! How are the strings with the knots working out for you?

[neohguy]

Jan 21, 2011 10:06:43 GMT -5 decoy409 said:

And they use Phosgene to do it. Correct Neo?

As well there is no corrolation with any of this and the massive ongoing as of today animal and fish,bird die offs. I am not saying that the post above is all in but I am saying that Corexit is killing off a large swath along with a few other tools created.

Phosgene is used for many things decoy. It's been used for everything from poisons to the manufacture of contact lenses. I work in a couple of chemical plants that use phosgene for manufacturing.

[Deleted]

I was just trying to find out why you though this was a big deal. I get it now.

[decoy409]

Well say Neo, I am happy to hear that you are familiar with it,

Quote:
(08/30/07 -- NEW YORK) -- U.N. weapons inspectors discovered a potentially hazardous chemical warfare agent that was taken from an Iraqi chemical weapons facility 11 years ago and mistakenly stored in their offices in the heart of midtown Manhattan all that time, officials said Thursday.

The material, identified in inventory files as phosgene -- a chemical substance used in World War I weapons -- was discovered Aug. 24. It was only identified on Wednesday because it was marked simply with an inventory number, and officials had to check the many records in their vast archives, said Ewen Buchanan, a spokesman for the U.N. inspection agency.

A team of hazardous materials experts from the FBI and the New York City police went to the office on Manhattan's east side, about a block north of U.N. headquarters, on Thursday with two steel containers to remove the materials and take them to a military facility outside New York for disposal, officials said.

While the disposal team was in UNMOVIC's sixth-floor office, its small staff was evacuated along with other tenants from that floor, Buchanan said.

When the material was discovered in a shipping container last week, Buchanan said U.N. experts followed their established procedure in dealing with unknown material -- putting the material in double zip-locked plastic bags, and securing it in a safe in a room that is double-locked.

U.N. deputy spokeswoman Marie Okabe said there was no danger to the public and staff continued to work in offices of the U.N. Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission, or UNMOVIC, which are in the process of being shut down. The U.N. called in U.S. authorities to remove the material, she said.

Tests conducted by U.N. personnel found no toxic vapors in the area where the material has been stored, police said. The materials have been in UNMOVIC apparently since 1996 when they were inadvertently shipped to United Nations administrative offices, instead of a chemical laboratory, police said.

White House spokesman Tony Snow said the chemical agents should have been transported to an appropriately equipped lab for analysis.

"I'm sure that there are going to be a lot of red-faced people over at the U.N. trying to figure out how they got there," Snow said.

Phosgene can be used as a chemical weapon -- and was used extensively in World War I -- as a choking agent. Both phosgene gas and liquid can damage skin, eyes, nose, throat and lungs.

Okabe said the chemical state of the phosgene was unknown but "could be potentially hazardous."

Buchanan said the phosgene was in liquid form, suspended in oil, in a soda-can-sized container that was sealed in a plastic bag.

Records indicated the material was from a 1996 excavation of the bombed-out research and development building at Iraq's main chemical weapons facility at Muthana, near Samarra. The entire facility was extensively bombed during the 1991 Gulf War, Buchanan said.

UNMOVIC has 1,400 linear feet of paper files and it took until Wednesday to find the inventory matching the number on the package of phosgene.

Also found at the UNMOVIC office was a second sealed package containing tiny samples of chemical agents in sealed glass tubes shaped like pens that calibrate analytical equipment which inspectors use to identify chemical agents, Buchanan said. Each of these reference standards contained less than a gram of chemical material, he added.

Okabe said the United Nations has launched an investigation to determine how and why the material was in UNMOVIC files. The Security Council and Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon were informed, Okabe added.

The State Department said it had learned of the discovery late Wednesday and had immediately contacted the FBI to deal with the disposal.

Deputy spokesman Tom Casey also said a joint U.S.-U.N. investigation would be made into why the samples had been stored in the office but stressed that the chemicals had been there for at least a decade and did not pose any health risk.

"One of the things we want to do is make sure that the U.N., working with the FBI, does conduct a full investigation of this, so we're absolutely certain how they in fact got there, how long they were there, and the kind of exact nature of how this came about," he told reporters.

"There is no threat that these items currently or in the past have posed to public health and safety in the area," Casey said.

U.N. inspectors pulled out of Iraq just before the March 2003 U.S.-led invasion and were barred by the U.S. from returning. The U.S. and Britain said they were taking over responsibility for Iraq's disarmament. In June 2003, the Security Council voted to shut down UNMOVIC and the U.N. nuclear inspection operation in Iraq.

Brian Mullady, a senior UNMOVIC official, told reporters that the staff did an immediate sweep of the rest of its archives to see if there was any more material but there was none.

and I am happy that you know what the test results were this way!

[jarhead1976]

I agree gdgyva , exposure too chemicals are good for you. It does not take much to break the fragile hydrogen bonding found in DNA, the results Birth defects!

[decoy409]

We can run all day. But you know what? Nothing constructive will come from it but another malicious argument.

[midwesterner (banned)]

You guys see shadows everywhere...and conspiracies everywhere

Damn...its a wonder how you all manage to exist in a normal everyday life

Animals are killed daily! Many reasons...animal population control, nuisance, eating crops, etc

This is NOT a big deal....

Question for ya. Is it possible to be so ignorant that one believe all one is told, and propaganda is a thing of the past? Or, how many debt notes does it take for one to compromise their moral ethics and chime in on issues often as if to deflect the significance of the mainstream news stories that are being covered?

Oh, just so you know, the earth is not flat, that theory has been proven false. I can show you maps and can even show you satellite images or google maps to prove the earth is round. No really it is.

[neohguy]

Most of us are aware that phosgene gas was used during wars as a chemical weapon. Most don't know that it is a common ingredient used in manufacturing.
Chlorine can also be used to kill people or it can be used to make laundry bleach.

[decoy409]

wxyz, your Puppet with strings!

This is a great point jarhead and as wxyz puts it clear, the heck with everybody except them,them,them!

Quote: I agree gdgyva , exposure too chemicals are good for you. It does not take much to break the fragile hydrogen bonding found in DNA, the results Birth defects!

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[decoy409]

wxyz, your Puppet with strings!

This is a great point jarhead and as wxyz puts it clear, the heck with everybody except them,them,them!

Quote: I agree gdgyva , exposure too chemicals are good for you. It does not take much to break the fragile hydrogen bonding found in DNA, the results Birth defects!

And did I mention that your tissue paper hands are like that of a sissy or two that I have come across in my days.
Big mouths with no substance.

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Mid

You have to leave the basement and ACTUALLY see the world first

As a veteran...i have been to over 50 countries around the world. I have been to the Pyramids, and the Mayan ruins, and seen the Great Wall. I spent four years in Europe....can you say the same?

So yes...the world is a globe...and not flat. Havent disputed that FACT...and will not

A lot of the articles you all post are fine...and are good bits most WOULD not read....

But you seem to want to "read" into the articles more than what it is.....hundreds if not thousands of animals are killed EVERYDAY in this country and around the world. That is a fact....and poisons are the PREFERRABLE way to kill them. It is cost effective....and as you all know....costs do make a difference nowadays.

Again...a NON story in that respect is all i am saying....

[decoy409]

wxyz, your Puppet with strings!

This is a great point jarhead and as wxyz puts it clear, the heck with everybody except them,them,them!

Quote: I agree gdgyva , exposure too chemicals are good for you. It does not take much to break the fragile hydrogen bonding found in DNA, the results Birth defects!

And did I mention that your tissue paper hands are like that of a sissy or two that I have come across in my days.
Big mouths with no substance.

[decoy409]

You know what, whatever you are or whoever you may be, I don't give two craps.