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Post by maui1 on Apr 6, 2011 9:36:07 GMT -5
how in the world does our home market get fixed, when we (our gov't) keep (s) braking it?
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Post by usaone on Apr 6, 2011 9:48:52 GMT -5
Do you have a link?
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Post by maui1 on Apr 6, 2011 9:51:40 GMT -5
Do you have a link?
have you heard of goggle? geezzz you are completely helpless
usa- if frank- does not state something that you can parrot, you have nothing of value to say. like repeating "a good time to sell gold" over and over again.
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Post by lifewasgood on Apr 6, 2011 9:52:35 GMT -5
really? is this really what we want from our gov't? i mean.......REALLY?
It is the "System" we, our fathers and grandfathers have allowed to evolve because we choose not to care about anything other than ourselves. Our government is so large and so centralized that it is unaccountable and we the tax paying voters are so fragmented and therefore weak, we cannot change the status quo. Exactly what our constitution tried to prevent has happened and we are powerless to change.
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Post by maui1 on Apr 6, 2011 10:05:25 GMT -5
like bombing anyone for anything that we don't like, at any time?
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Post by maui1 on Apr 6, 2011 10:28:29 GMT -5
xyz- i hated what bush did to us and i hate even more what obama is doing, because it is exactly the opposite of what he said he would do if he got in office. he was supposed to get us out of war, not add to our wars. for this.........i hate the guy! he is killing our troops as well as other countries peoples, for a reason that is unconstitutional, not to mention, morally wrong.
you can't state a humanitarian reason for our invasion of libya, not to have it conflict with all the other countries that are having their citizens killed for political reasons. why have we not invaded all these others country's in support of stopping their killing of their citizens?
people of the world see this contradiction in policy and know that the american gov't is imperial at it's core, and will take it out on us (the american people) the only way they can, and that is thru terrorism. our gov't is putting every american at risk, financially as well as physically.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Apr 7, 2011 0:15:41 GMT -5
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Post by maui1 on Apr 7, 2011 7:50:42 GMT -5
i read the article, and don't see it as "great news". funny how perception is everything.
in fact, i read ............one poll number was offset by the other and that we are just bumping along the housing bottom, with no way to know, in what direction the future holds.
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Post by lifewasgood on Apr 7, 2011 8:20:51 GMT -5
I didn't see much good news in the article either. It appears the beginning of the article was intent on presenting a Rosy picture but the rest of the article was actually depressing and bad news.
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Post by maui1 on Apr 7, 2011 8:27:41 GMT -5
i guess, it you want to see something so badly, you will see it.........no matter if it is there or not.
or, as i am beginning to believe......some people just can't understand what they read.
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Post by lifewasgood on Apr 7, 2011 8:30:14 GMT -5
Or too many
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Apr 7, 2011 22:21:27 GMT -5
i read the article, and don't see it as "great news". funny how perception is everything. in fact, i read ............one poll number was offset by the other and that we are just bumping along the housing bottom, with no way to know, in what direction the future holds. You are now saying that we are bumping around the bottom, and you don't see the great news?? The news is that it seems like the people who are in their homes are staring to see light at the end of the tunnel. That is the great news. Things are slowly getting better, that is the great news. I like to read unbiased material, don't know about you two though, seems like you have a problem with it.
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Post by verrip1 on Apr 8, 2011 2:42:44 GMT -5
Lenders aren't accepting any significant risk. Why not? They can borrow so low and so easily, why take on risk? The current subprime loan market now has borrowers who used to be prime borrowers. Lenders today don't want risk nor do they want leverage, and they particularly don't want to hold foreclosed properties.
Cash is king. Borrowers must pay.
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Post by usaone on Apr 8, 2011 8:14:29 GMT -5
i read the article, and don't see it as "great news". funny how perception is everything. in fact, i read ............one poll number was offset by the other and that we are just bumping along the housing bottom, with no way to know, in what direction the future holds. You are now saying that we are bumping around the bottom, and you don't see the great news?? The news is that it seems like the people who are in their homes are staring to see light at the end of the tunnel. That is the great news. Things are slowly getting better, that is the great news. I like to read unbiased material, don't know about you two though, seems like you have a problem with it. Housing bottomed in FEB. That is good news.
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Post by maui1 on Apr 8, 2011 10:43:27 GMT -5
Housing bottomed in FEB. That is good news.
just like you were sure that gold topped at 1420 on dec 21st?
usa- you really are the 'certain one', that is never proven right.
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Post by Driftr on Apr 8, 2011 11:21:22 GMT -5
Lenders aren't accepting any significant risk. Why not? They can borrow so low and so easily, why take on risk? The current subprime loan market now has borrowers who used to be prime borrowers. Lenders today don't want risk nor do they want leverage, and they particularly don't want to hold foreclosed properties. Cash is king. Borrowers must pay. Unless you're taking on non-dischargable student loan debt. They're still happy to lend that to anyone with a pulse.
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Post by maui1 on Apr 8, 2011 11:28:46 GMT -5
lenders lend when the gov't insures the lending.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Apr 21, 2011 1:26:51 GMT -5
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Post by maui1 on Apr 21, 2011 15:09:52 GMT -5
we won't find a bottom until the gov't stops clouding up the picture so the bottom can be seen........right now we are walking through a tunnel and there is no light that can be seen at the end of it.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Apr 21, 2011 21:36:09 GMT -5
That sucks wxyz.. Do you think it has anything to do with the fires?? BTW, are you going to be okay in all of this? I
maui1, that is exactly what a lot of people were saying in the early part of '09 about the markets. Just when things like the article I just posted started to happen.
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Post by Driftr on Apr 26, 2011 9:16:32 GMT -5
Not good news from Case-Shiller index:
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Post by txmover on Apr 26, 2011 9:43:15 GMT -5
Adding more fuel to the fire (so to speak) home sales/purchases are further depressed because corporate America is becoming less willing to relocate people who are in a negative equity position. In 2008-2010 companies were willing to accept the addittional costs with the negative equity challenge however I'm seeing a reversal on that. More temp assignments, business travel, virtual officing, and recruitment of renters to fill positions is adding to the slow and depressed home sale market around the nation. Interesting times to say the least.
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Post by bga4444 on Apr 27, 2011 16:02:11 GMT -5
I work with a lot of Real estate agents in North Atlanta. They are telling me the only homes selling are bank owned/foreclosures. They are selling way below what is owed on them making it virtually impossible for a homeowner to sell their property and get a fair price on it!! I hear the bottom of the foreclosures has been pushed back to next year cause the lenders are violating so many laws they have had to slow it down and do it correctly!!
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on May 25, 2011 1:04:48 GMT -5
Well the weather improves as sales have followed. 7.3% increase in new home sales was a big surprise to lots , second month of gains, new home sales still are above last years lows, the lowest on record. A little interest rate hike fear at this point would start making things interesting.
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Post by maui1 on May 25, 2011 15:18:00 GMT -5
Any home purchased as your principal residence and located in the United States qualifies. You must buy the home after April 8, 2008, and before May 1, 2010 (with closing to take place before July 1), to qualify for the credit.
most home numbers will look good these next few months, because the are measured against the end of the 1st time home buyer's credit expiration.
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Post by decoy409 on May 25, 2011 15:27:52 GMT -5
I guess somebody forgot to cover the whole deal here instead of as they say, 'patting wall street on the back' While Wall St. may be patting themselves on the back as NAR’s existing home sales report beat expectations by 2% or 100K home sales, assuring everybody that a housing recovery is now imminent, the truth is, the data points to a significant and negative trend in home prices. For now the fourth month in a row, NAR’s data is showing year over year price declines in housing with each month showing a larger deterioration than the previous. In fact, this latest report reveals the largest year over year decline (-5.9%) since October of 2009 (-7.6%). The median home value now stands at $159,600. The percentage of homes with negative equity continues to grow despite the most accomodative monetary policy in world history. If home values are still falling now despite the Fed’s best, albeit academic, efforts to prop up the housing market, it is not too difficult to imagine how swift the collapse in home prices will be when the Fed is no longer able to manipulate long term rates and the free markets are finally able to unleash their wrath on Bernanke’s sins. This latest disapointment on housing is merely the culmination of several previous housing indicators that were all pointing to an anemic Spring buying season for real estate.
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Post by decoy409 on May 25, 2011 15:39:38 GMT -5
I know you probebly want a few examples so here is a list of them, Real Estate - Shadow Inventory And The Elusive Recovery Posted on May 23, 2011 The housing (and economic) recovery have become as elusive as the mythical and highly sought after unicorn. Unfortunately, unicorns, much like this recovery, do not exist. In the latest from the world of the surreal, the New York Times is reporting, gAs Lenders Hold Homes / Continue reading ¨ April Existing Home Sales Weaker Than Expected Posted on May 20, 2011 About two months ago I wrote a post that the Spring/peak housing season was about to go out with a whimper. Well, here we are, in the thick of the peak housing season and the existing home sales market is on / Continue reading ¨ New Home Market Has Hit The Mat, And Itfs Not Getting Back Up Posted on May 18, 2011 The new home market appears that it may be down for the count. The Census Bureau announced yesterday that seasonally adjusted building permits came in at 551,000, this is down 4% from the previous month and 12.8% from last year. / Continue reading ¨ The Unintended Consequences Of Government Intervention Posted on May 14, 2011 This is one of the better videos that I have seen detailing the demise of the American standard of living over the past several decades. From housing, to healthcare, to education, and now ultimately to food and fuel, the private federal / Continue reading ¨ Mortgage Rates Hit 2011 Low As Home Values Rot Posted on May 12, 2011 The mortgage bankers association announced yesterday that mortgage rates fell for the fourth consecutive week and are now at their lowest point since December of 2010 with the 30-year fixed rate mortgage sitting at 4.67%. Not surprisingly, as mortgage rates / Continue reading ¨ Pending Home Sales And The State Of The Housing Market Posted on April 29, 2011 The NAR announced that their pending home sales index in March fell 11.4% year over year despite a 5.1% month over month increase to 94.1. For those that are keeping score, here is the scorecard for the housing market: According / Continue reading ¨ Case-Shiller: 8th Straight Month Of Home Price Declines Posted on April 26, 2011 The S&P Case-Shiller home price index was released today and revealed that for the 8th straight month home prices have deteriorated. This supports the NARfs existing home sales report which shows four straight months of declines with each month posting / Continue reading ¨ March New Home Sales Off Of All-Time Low Posted on April 25, 2011 The census bureau announced today that the March new home sales which represents contracts signed, not closed, rose 11.1% month over month to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 300,000. However, the data represents a 21.9% decline year over year / Continue reading ¨ The Tide Has Vanished Posted on April 23, 2011 With gold eclipsing $1,500 an ounce, silver going full steam ahead towards $50, and oil at over $112 a barrel, something doesnft quite feel right. Itfs tough for a lot of people to put a finger on it, in fact / Continue reading ¨ The Truth Behind The March Existing Homes Sales Report Posted on April 20, 2011 While Wall St. may be patting themselves on the back as NARfs existing home sales report beat expectations by 2% or 100K home sales, assuring everybody that a housing recovery is now imminent, the truth is, the data points to / Continue reading ¨ goldsilverrealestate.com/?cat=7And yes I do read the reports.
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Post by decoy409 on May 25, 2011 17:23:46 GMT -5
#234 sums up the houseing and until reports come out adjusting the many above,well so much for rats.
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Post by decoy409 on May 25, 2011 21:12:19 GMT -5
Say, where did the BRAINS run to? After all,that is a tall order there in #234 and a rat stated, Quote from #231 - Well the weather improves as sales have followed. 7.3% increase in new home sales was a big surprise to lots , second month of gains, new home sales still are above last years lows, the lowest on record. (end) Why if it feces like a rat,it probably is a rat. And that rat crapped like a true rat.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on May 26, 2011 1:12:10 GMT -5
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