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the best way to avoid disillusionment is to avoid illusions.
-dj
It is not wise to keep the fires going under a slander unless you can get some large advantage out of keeping it alive. Few slanders can stand the wear of silence.
the best way to avoid disillusionment is to avoid illusions.
-dj
It is not wise to keep the fires going under a slander unless you can get some large advantage out of keeping it alive. Few slanders can stand the wear of silence.
the best way to avoid disillusionment is to avoid illusions.
-dj
It is not wise to keep the fires going under a slander unless you can get some large advantage out of keeping it alive. Few slanders can stand the wear of silence.
this is completely nuts. i think if Gingrich doesn't win in Florida, he is dust.
any other opinions??
Yo-Yo'ing in most of the polls I have seen. Local news was showing in 5 different poll's Romney with 3 Gingrich with 2. The swing seems to be in the may or probably catagory will vote. Romney has the "estimated" lead at the moment in early voting.
this is completely nuts. i think if Gingrich doesn't win in Florida, he is dust.
any other opinions??
Yo-Yo'ing in most of the polls I have seen. Local news was showing in 5 different poll's Romney with 3 Gingrich with 2. The swing seems to be in the may or probably catagory will vote. Romney has the "estimated" lead at the moment in early voting.
it LOOKS LIKE the "Gingrich Bounce" from SC hit a wall. i suspect he will continue fading, unless he gets another bump from the upcoming debate.
i realize i was wrong with SC. but generally speaking, ORGANIZATION wins races. and Gingrich's organization is very poor. Florida is actually a really good test of this, because the population is large and diverse. if he wins Florida, he is a contender.
the best way to avoid disillusionment is to avoid illusions.
-dj
It is not wise to keep the fires going under a slander unless you can get some large advantage out of keeping it alive. Few slanders can stand the wear of silence.
the best way to avoid disillusionment is to avoid illusions.
-dj
It is not wise to keep the fires going under a slander unless you can get some large advantage out of keeping it alive. Few slanders can stand the wear of silence.
Didn't his campaign managers bail out and join Perry's staff about the time that his wife was caught buying alot of stuff from tiffenys?
he has never cared much about it, which i find baffling. he thinks that personality wins presidential races, and that he has more than any other two candidates combined, i guess.
the best way to avoid disillusionment is to avoid illusions.
-dj
It is not wise to keep the fires going under a slander unless you can get some large advantage out of keeping it alive. Few slanders can stand the wear of silence.
I can see Gingrich winning the state. The infusion of money 5m from the Winning Our Future super-pac that he received just before the SC primary made the push in the polls for him. The same is happening here. Not just for Gingrich but, also for Santorum. The base hardcore GOP are looking for the not Romney, the tired of the bs'ers are thinking of wasting a vote or sitting it out, and the moderates have started to cast their votes already, The Yo-Yo warble bounce in the polls is going to get real wild in the next 5 days.
If Gingrich wins Florida, Romney's done, if Santorum doesn't pull from either Gingrich or Romney and hit 20% he will have to drop due to funding issues. I think Paul will hit close to 12 but I'm hopeful he won't drop until the convention or he and Johnson team up. If Gingrich can stay with-in 5 points of Romney in Florida he will have the forward momentum I don't think the lose will hurt him as much as it will Romney.
And I agree with Pelosi "Gingrich will never be President."
Typing that just makes me feel dirty.
We actually have Santorum coming to town for a few hours tomorrow. Sponsored by the local Tea-Party.
I can see Gingrich winning the state. The infusion of money 5m from the Winning Our Future super-pac that he received just before the SC primary made the push in the polls for him. The same is happening here. Not just for Gingrich but, also for Santorum. The base hardcore GOP are looking for the not Romney, the tired of the bs'ers are thinking of wasting a vote or sitting it out, and the moderates have started to cast their votes already, The Yo-Yo warble bounce in the polls is going to get real wild in the next 5 days.
If Gingrich wins Florida, Romney's done, if Santorum doesn't pull from either Gingrich or Romney and hit 20% he will have to drop due to funding issues. I think Paul will hit close to 12 but I'm hopeful he won't drop until the convention or he and Johnson team up. If Gingrich can stay with-in 5 points of Romney in Florida he will have the forward momentum I don't think the lose will hurt him as much as it will Romney.
And I agree with Pelosi "Gingrich will never be President."
Typing that just makes me feel dirty.
We actually have Santorum coming to town for a few hours tomorrow. Sponsored by the local Tea-Party.
cme- i love this "feet on the ground" reporting. but after putting my trust in mmhmm in SC, i think i will stick with my polls (which, for the record, reflect your perspective).
the best way to avoid disillusionment is to avoid illusions.
-dj
It is not wise to keep the fires going under a slander unless you can get some large advantage out of keeping it alive. Few slanders can stand the wear of silence.
cme- i love this "feet on the ground" reporting. but after putting my trust in mmhmm in SC, i think i will stick with my polls (which, for the record, reflect your perspective).
4 with Gingrich up high +9 low +3 2 with Romney up high+2 low +2 1 - chamber of commerce (the one I like to keep an eye on) tie.
i see it flopping back and forth until Tuesday at 7am. If one of them hits it out of the park tomorrow in Jacksonville the swing may well be impressive.
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Florida will be very close for Romney, but I think he pulls it off. Newt will be in it to win it. He is not dropping out. I will accept, and back, either candidate in the fall. Newt, because he scares the heck out of Democrats, and will bring change to the gridlock in Congress, and Mitt, because he will cooperate with the far right, although not a 100% believer, but will work for the conservative initiatives needed to turn this country around. Still think we will see a strong Republican lead in the House Of Representatives, and a gain of three seats in the Senate for the right.
Florida will be very close for Romney, but I think he pulls it off. Newt will be in it to win it. He is not dropping out. I will accept, and back, either candidate in the fall. Newt, because he scares the heck out of Democrats, and will bring change to the gridlock in Congress, and Mitt, because he will cooperate with the far right, although not a 100% believer, but will work for the conservative initiatives needed to turn this country around. Still think we will see a strong Republican lead in the House Of Representatives, and a gain of three seats in the Senate for the right.
VB- if Mitt wins, how long do you think Gingrich stays in? all the way to convention?
the best way to avoid disillusionment is to avoid illusions.
-dj
It is not wise to keep the fires going under a slander unless you can get some large advantage out of keeping it alive. Few slanders can stand the wear of silence.
cme- i love this "feet on the ground" reporting. but after putting my trust in mmhmm in SC, i think i will stick with my polls (which, for the record, reflect your perspective).
Not really. Two weeks ago, Romney led by double digits. Last week Gingrich led by double digits. This week it's all over the map. I wouldn't bet on the polls here in FL.
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cme- i love this "feet on the ground" reporting. but after putting my trust in mmhmm in SC, i think i will stick with my polls (which, for the record, reflect your perspective).
Not really. Two weeks ago, Romney led by double digits. Last week Gingrich led by double digits. This week it's all over the map. I wouldn't bet on the polls here in FL.
you don't think the polls reflect what is happening there. ie- do you or do you NOT think that Gingrich and Romney are basically tied, as of today?
the best way to avoid disillusionment is to avoid illusions.
-dj
It is not wise to keep the fires going under a slander unless you can get some large advantage out of keeping it alive. Few slanders can stand the wear of silence.
Not really. Two weeks ago, Romney led by double digits. Last week Gingrich led by double digits. This week it's all over the map. I wouldn't bet on the polls here in FL.
you don't think the polls reflect what is happening there. ie- do you or do you NOT think that Gingrich and Romney are basically tied, as of today?
As of the date of the poll, maybe. It's probably swung 30 points to one side or the other by now.
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Post by vandalshandle on Jan 26, 2012 15:57:40 GMT -5
I must be getting old. I remember when people thought that the Republican party had gone crazy when they nominated a Hollywood actor. Now, Reagan seems tame, reasonable, personable, and competent by comparison with today's Republican candidates. I have to admit, however, that I am STILL trying to figure out how come he didn't catch hell for the Iran/Contra dealings. "It was all Oliver North's doing!". Anyway, Newt is bound to self-destruct before this is over. I suspect that most republicans who are Romney fans have no idea what he stands for. Hell, I'm a democrat, and I don't even know what he is for and what he is against! He is kind of a Gerald Ford with hair.
I must be getting old. I remember when people thought that the Republican party had gone crazy when they nominated a Hollywood actor. Now, Reagan seems tame, reasonable, personable, and competent by comparison with today's Republican candidates. I have to admit, however, that I am STILL trying to figure out how come he didn't catch hell for the Iran/Contra dealings. "It was all Oliver North's doing!". Anyway, Newt is bound to self-destruct before this is over. I suspect that most republicans who are Romney fans have no idea what he stands for. Hell, I'm a democrat, and I don't even know what he is for and what he is against! He is kind of a Gerald Ford with hair.
Regan wasn't much of a conservative, I think Gingrich only looks like a fool for name dropping. Don't get me wrong, Regan did some great things but his by little means a conservative. He was a conservative before he got elected though.
well I predicted Gingrich or Paul would win SC. Paul stepped in the bucket and did not help himself. Gingrich could also prevail in Ga. But I also predicted Romney would win Fl. You see as I said before Romney is considered a Nor Easterner and there is except for Kennedy a bias in the south against those from that area. Now Fl. is different. Except for the upper northern part of Fla. it is not a southern state in it's politics. Now that Ed Ball, Hubert Rutland and Ben Hill Griffen are gone there is no political machine left there. If he plays his cards right Santorum can come in second. Time will tell.
Swing will not come until after tonights debate and the "vote for me" calls that will come almost on an hourly basis for the next 4 days.
Are you talking about the robo phone calls? There's been (at least) one on the home answering machine every day all week. I think I hear three or four words before i can get it deleted and I still couldn't tell you what it says. I can only assume they're calling because DS used our home number when he registered to vote. Neither DW or I are affiliated with a party.
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Swing will not come until after tonights debate and the "vote for me" calls that will come almost on an hourly basis for the next 4 days.
Are you talking about the robo phone calls? There's been (at least) one on the home answering machine every day all week. I think I hear three or four words before i can get it deleted and I still couldn't tell you what it says. I can only assume they're calling because DS used our home number when he registered to vote. Neither DW or I are affiliated with a party.
Lots of robo's but, there are some of the campaigns using live callers.
As I am not affiliated I don't generally receive the calls I just still talk to people who work in the local party.
Post by floridayankee on Jan 30, 2012 9:44:01 GMT -5
Latest polls as of Sunday show a bloodbath in FL. Looks like Newt will go down in flames to the Massachusetts RINO. An NBC News/Marist poll: Romney - 42% and Gingrich - 27% A Mason-Dixon Poll: Romney - 42% and Gingrich - 31%
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