Obama admin allows terrorists to fly flag in DC

[ed1066]

The Palestinian Authority, governed by the terrorist group Hamas and whose national charter calls for the destruction of the State of Israel and the death of all Jews worldwide, has been permitted by the Obama administration to fly their flag over their Washington, D.C. mission.

This is the first time in American history that a documented terrorist group has been authorized by the U.S. government to fly their flag on American soil. That's "change" for you...

www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=204222

[billisonboard]

But are they flying it higher than the American flag?

Enquiring minds want to know.

[Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ]

Someone can correct me, but I think embassies and foreign missions are considered foreign territory, even though they are located in the US. Thus they can fly their own national flag.

[billisonboard]

Jan 19, 2011 12:25:45 GMT -5 Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ said:

Someone can correct me, but I think embassies and foreign missions are considered foreign territory, even though they are located in the US. Thus they can fly their own national flag.

That might be true in the United States but in Edtopia the rules are different.

[chiver78]

playing devil's advocate here, I guess you could say the same for all those administrations that allowed the Israeli flag to fly over the embassy since 1948. I mean, all those Palestinian civilians that were killed over the years didn't just drop dead on their own.

[ed1066]

Someone can correct me, but I think embassies and foreign missions are considered foreign territory, even though they are located in the US. Thus they can fly their own national flag.

The PA is not a recognized nation, thus it cannot have officially recognized embassies or other foreign diplomatic entities. This D.C. mission is simply an advocacy group for a terrorist organization, and the Obama administration has given them authorization to fly their terrorist flag in our nation's capital...

[Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ]

That might be true in the United States but in Edtopia the rules are different.
This thread is referring to what is taking place here, not in some other country.

[Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ]

playing devil's advocate here, I guess you could say the same for all those administrations that allowed the Israeli flag to fly over the embassy since 1948. I mean, all those Palestinian civilians that were killed over the years didn't just drop dead on their own.

Israel is a country.

[billisonboard]

Jan 19, 2011 12:34:54 GMT -5 Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ said:

That might be true in the United States but in Edtopia the rules are different.
This thread is referring to what is taking place here, not in some other country.

My bad.

[chiver78]

Jan 19, 2011 12:35:57 GMT -5 Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ said:

playing devil's advocate here, I guess you could say the same for all those administrations that allowed the Israeli flag to fly over the embassy since 1948. I mean, all those Palestinian civilians that were killed over the years didn't just drop dead on their own.

Israel is a country.

and Palestine was, before Israel decided to squat.

[handyman2]

The normal rule is that it be allowed for Embassies and foreign mission stations. Not sure how this fits in.
Embassies are considered foreign soil and allowed to fly their flag. Most countries allow this.
However I am not sure how this group fits in. Normally they must be recognized by the host country as a viable government.

[Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ]

and Palestine was, before Israel decided to squat.

Israel was formed by the UN, decades ago, following WWII.

[burnsattornincan]

That might be true in the United States but in Edtopia the rules are different.

Sorry Mr. ed1066 but this statement by Mr. billisonboard was extremely comical to me.

[Tennesseer]

Why doesn't Ed have a problem with Syria with an actual embassey in Washington. Syria, along with Cuba, Iran and Sudan, are considered by the United States State department as state sponsors of terrorism

[ed1066]

Why doesn't Ed have a problem with Syria with an actual embassey in Washington. Syria, along with Cuba, Iran and Sudan, are considered by the United States State department as state sponsors of terrorism

I DO have a problem with it, but whether I like it or not, those mudpits are recognized nations, and according to the current rules, they are allowed to fly their repulsive flags over their filthy embassies. The PA is NOT a recognized nation, it is a terrorist group, like Al-Queda, and only a radical anti-American like Obama would allow a terrorist organization to fly their flag on our soil. Would you also be amenable to an Al-Queda flag flying over a building in D.C.?

[ugonow]

and Palestine was, before Israel decided to squat.

God gave that land to the Jews.The proof is in the Bible.Mans treaties do not trump written word,especially when it is His.

[ed1066]

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[ugonow]

Palistine is a state,not a country.

[Tennesseer]

Ed-you might want to take a look at this world map of the country and either recognizes the State of Palestine/The Palestinian National Authority or give it special diplomatic status. Most countries of the world recognize them one way or another.

upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Palestine-recognition-map.png

What a world, eh?

[Tennesseer]

Jan 19, 2011 13:20:57 GMT -5 @ed1066 said:

and Palestine was, before Israel decided to squat.

Israel was formed by the UN, decades ago, following WWII.

Don't confuse an anti-Semite with facts. If they can't think of Jews as dirty "squatters", it screws up their world view...

Now that wasn't very nice Ed. The poster is entitled to their opinion just like you.

Tennesseer/Moderator

[burnsattornincan]

they are allowed to fly their repulsive flags over their filthy embassies.

Mr. ed1066, I find this even more comical than Mr. billisonboard's statement. This is turning out to be a jovial thread for me. Thanks.

[ed1066]

Most countries of the world recognize them one way or another.

Good for them. However, it doesn't change the fact that Obama is allowing a terrorist organization, one which is NOT recognized as a state by our country, to fly their flag in our country. That is the topic of the OP, and it remains a fact...you are more than welcome to fly YOUR Hamas flag in Syria or one of the other countries on your map, but right now, in the United States, the PA and it's governing body, the terrorist group Hamas, are NOT recognized...it is only through Obama's sympathy toward this terrorist group that this is being allowed.

[ed1066]

Ed please remove the acusation of racism in post #16, or it will be deleted.

I assume you will be deleting post #9 as well, as it refers to the nation of Israel, legally chartered in 1947, as "squatting", a derogatory term used to imply criminal behavior.

[ed1066]

The CoC does not prohibit denegrating foreign nations

From the CoC:

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"Group of people", does this not define a nation? And I would say referring to a nation as "squatters" signifies hate toward that group, or at the very least an intolerance based on race/religion, etc.

[deziloooooo]

Jan 19, 2011 13:32:57 GMT -5 burnsattornincan said:

they are allowed to fly their repulsive flags over their filthy embassies.

Mr. ed1066, I find this even more comical than Mr. billisonboard's statement. This is turning out to be a jovial thread for me. Thanks.

It seems that whenever Mr ed posts, some how or other , 'jovial" does come into play as well as a few other adjectives that come to mind.
IMHO

[chiver78]

Jan 19, 2011 13:30:30 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Jan 19, 2011 13:20:57 GMT -5 @ed1066 said:

If they can't think of Jews as dirty "squatters", it screws up their world view...

Now that wasn't very nice Ed. The poster is entitled to their opinion just like you.

Tennesseer/Moderator

that's OK, I don't think much of Ed anyway. in other threads, he's lumped me in with "tree-hugging liberals" so it was only a matter of time before he called me something else.

as I said when I made the first post, I was playing devil's advocate regarding the Israeli flag. there's plenty of documented history regarding the establishment of Israel, including the fact that land that wasn't previously theirs was given to them. that's all.

[deziloooooo]

Jan 19, 2011 14:12:28 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Jan 19, 2011 13:30:30 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Now that wasn't very nice Ed. The poster is entitled to their opinion just like you.

Tennesseer/Moderator

that's OK, I don't think much of Ed anyway. in other threads, he's lumped me in with "tree-hugging liberals" so it was only a matter of time before he called me something else.

as I said when I made the first post, I was playing devil's advocate regarding the Israeli flag. there's plenty of documented history regarding the establishment of Israel, including the fact that land that wasn't previously theirs was given to them. that's all.

My only suggestion toward the one mentioned, don't take to heart, what it is is what it is and don't forget, one can always just scroll, scroll, scroll

[Deleted]

Ed-- I don't much like the recognized terrorist organization Hamas flying their flags in our country, but, unfortunately, although the USA publicly calls Hamas terrorists, it has never stopped amazing me how many people on the message boards consider ISRAEL the terrorists and Hamas the good guys. Even when I posted horrifing pictures of Hamas beating the Palestinians, cutting people's heads off, setting them up to die, along with lots of news articles. Fact is the people that think Israel are the terrorists, and there seem to be lots of them in our country, are not going to change their minds. It's no big secret that this POTUS has given less consideration to Israel than any past POTUS. I think he can hardly stand it when he has to publicly stand by Israel. Not surprising since his formative years were spent as a Muslim child in a Muslim school, and one can safely say that Muslims and Jews in the Middle East do not play well together most of the time....

What can we do?? Nothing. Just continue to support Israel and condemn Hamas and Hezbollah when we have the opportunity.

[ed1066]

Now that wasn't very nice Ed. The poster is entitled to their opinion just like you

OK, now I'm confused. Just to set the record straight please, is referring to an entire nation of people with the derogatory term "squatters", even when that nation was legally chartered, now merely an opinion? Please confirm, if that is the case, I want to know so I can adjust my future posts accordingly...

[deziloooooo]

Jan 19, 2011 15:58:32 GMT -5 @ed1066 said:

Now that wasn't very nice Ed. The poster is entitled to their opinion just like you

OK, now I'm confused. Just to set the record straight please, is referring to an entire nation of people with the derogatory term "squatters", even when that nation was legally chartered, now merely an opinion? Please confirm, if that is the case, I want to know so I can adjust my future posts accordingly...

Adjust your "future posts", like they are different in agenda from each other? Ed you been smoking something? Different agenda, adjust accordingly?