Deleted
Joined: Dec 1, 2024 1:33:29 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2011 21:37:39 GMT -5
Carolyn Jones, Chronicle Staff Writer San Francisco Chronicle January 18, 2011 04:00 AM While other cities are slashing employee benefits, Berkeley is slated to add one more: paying for sex-change operations. The City Council is poised to vote tonight to set aside $20,000 annually for city workers' gender-reassignment surgery. The procedure is not covered by the city's two health insurance providers, Kaiser and Health Net. Read more: www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/01/17/BA1P1HA3JL.DTL#ixzz1BRdl6VF4
|
|
Deleted
Joined: Dec 1, 2024 1:33:29 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2011 21:42:22 GMT -5
Oh, good grief. And I thought paying for other people's abortions was bad. Yeah, I know, I am not socially conscious and aware, and I am heartless and do not care about others.. even though I am strong on gay rights and could care less who does who in the privacy of their own space. Insurances will not pay for BOOB jobs, but this company will contribute $20,000 to SEX CHANGES??? Man-- life is weird, and getting weirder every day.
|
|
billisonboard
Community Leader
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 22:45:44 GMT -5
Posts: 38,484
|
Post by billisonboard on Jan 18, 2011 21:52:39 GMT -5
Yes, isn't it sweet.
|
|
Deleted
Joined: Dec 1, 2024 1:33:29 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2011 21:53:22 GMT -5
Yes, isn't it sweet. It would be boring if it wasn't.
|
|
fairlycrazy23
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 27, 2010 23:55:19 GMT -5
Posts: 3,306
|
Post by fairlycrazy23 on Jan 18, 2011 22:07:24 GMT -5
They are setting aside a one time 20k, this seems like they have some individuals already in mind that will get the money.
|
|
billisonboard
Community Leader
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 22:45:44 GMT -5
Posts: 38,484
|
Post by billisonboard on Jan 18, 2011 22:15:42 GMT -5
They are setting aside a one time 20k, this seems like they have some individuals already in mind that will get the money. Actually, per the link in the OP, they are setting up a $20,000 fund that would be replenished annually if used during a given year.
|
|
dancinmama
Senior Associate
LIVIN' THE DREAM!!
Joined: Dec 18, 2010 20:49:45 GMT -5
Posts: 10,659
|
Post by dancinmama on Jan 18, 2011 22:16:53 GMT -5
They are setting aside a one time 20k, this seems like they have some individuals already in mind that will get the money. I don't think $20K is going to go too far.
|
|
Deleted
Joined: Dec 1, 2024 1:33:29 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2011 22:18:47 GMT -5
Oh, well, if it passes, Berkeley will be a really fun place to work. You know, since I had my 5 kids I do not feel I am able to be my inner Goddess due to the boobs, belly smile, and all of the things that go in to continuing the human race. I think I should have a right to be my inner self-- don't you guys?? Full body makeover for all Moms, right, Berkeley?? LOL!!!!!!!!! Sorry, dumb thread, but it struck me as so ridiculous I had to post it. Come to think of it, I am tired of being a woman. It often limits me. I feel like a suppressed minority, and would like to try having one of those man things to see if it makes me feel more whole, you know? I would be MAD as hell if my premium went up on my insurance, or my taxes went up, so the company (city) I worked for could pay for sex changes. Of course they will not tell people that. They will say we are going to lay off cops, firemen, and teachers!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
|
burnsattornincan
Well-Known Member
Joined: Dec 25, 2010 23:05:21 GMT -5
Posts: 1,398
|
Post by burnsattornincan on Jan 18, 2011 22:36:24 GMT -5
It would be boring if it wasn't.
I wonder if someday you could find things that are fulfilling and exciting but don't involve spending other peoples money.
|
|
|
Post by ed1066 on Jan 18, 2011 22:37:18 GMT -5
I hope they eliminate their fire department to pay for it...
|
|
billisonboard
Community Leader
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 22:45:44 GMT -5
Posts: 38,484
|
Post by billisonboard on Jan 18, 2011 22:39:47 GMT -5
I love the fact that a city government, the level of government closest to the people, is doing this. Decisions made at that level are best, right?
|
|
Deleted
Joined: Dec 1, 2024 1:33:29 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2011 22:41:56 GMT -5
Sure, as long as you need a sex change and have no issues whatsoever with local gov't. Tucson city gov't would get lynched for doing this, and this city is liberal.
|
|
fairlycrazy23
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 27, 2010 23:55:19 GMT -5
Posts: 3,306
|
Post by fairlycrazy23 on Jan 18, 2011 23:50:39 GMT -5
I love the fact that a city government, the level of government closest to the people, is doing this. Decisions made at that level are best, right? Is, they are the best of a bad thing.
|
|
floridayankee
Junior Associate
If You Don't Stand Behind Our Troops, Feel Free to Stand in Front of Them.
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 14:56:05 GMT -5
Posts: 7,461
|
Post by floridayankee on Jan 19, 2011 8:42:19 GMT -5
Note to self: Always check for an Adam's apple if a girl says she's from the San Fran Bay area......
|
|
floridayankee
Junior Associate
If You Don't Stand Behind Our Troops, Feel Free to Stand in Front of Them.
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 14:56:05 GMT -5
Posts: 7,461
|
Post by floridayankee on Jan 19, 2011 8:44:46 GMT -5
I love the fact that a city government, the level of government closest to the people, is doing this. Decisions made at that level are best, right? You are correct. Personally, I'd be looking to fire my city council at the next election if they were voting to blow my tax dollars on cosmetic surgery.
|
|
|
Post by marjar on Jan 19, 2011 11:20:17 GMT -5
Another wow moment.
|
|
Tennesseer
Member Emeritus
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 21:58:42 GMT -5
Posts: 64,924
|
Post by Tennesseer on Jan 19, 2011 11:29:57 GMT -5
Note to self: Always check for an Adam's apple if a girl says she's from the San Fran Bay area...... How about any girl/woman with an Adams apple?
|
|
Deleted
Joined: Dec 1, 2024 1:33:29 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2011 11:31:55 GMT -5
Note to self: Always check for an Adam's apple if a girl says she's from the San Fran Bay area...... How about any girl/woman with an Adams apple? I love Anne Coulture and her adams apple.
|
|
billisonboard
Community Leader
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 22:45:44 GMT -5
Posts: 38,484
|
Post by billisonboard on Jan 19, 2011 11:35:21 GMT -5
There is love and then there is [glow=red,2,300]LOVE[/glow]
|
|
Deleted
Joined: Dec 1, 2024 1:33:29 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2011 12:02:31 GMT -5
Berkeley postpones vote on sex change moneyUpdated at 05:31 AM today abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=7906739This must be a VERY liberal city. Article says you have to have lived as the opposite sex for a year and worked for the city for at least a year. MAN!! SO-- you can apply for a city job as Robert Jones and go to work as Bobbie with a dress and a purse?? LOL!! Now THAT is liberal. And I'm okay with that, not my business. But why should tax payers throw in $20,000. a year for a sex change?? They say it is not a cosmetic or mental health issue, but a general health issue. I also heard that Berkeley is behind the curve on this, that one can run over to San Fran and get the same deal for some time now. Gotta love CA!! LOL!!
|
|
billisonboard
Community Leader
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 22:45:44 GMT -5
Posts: 38,484
|
Post by billisonboard on Jan 19, 2011 12:05:59 GMT -5
Because, through their elected officials, they choose to do so.
|
|
rockon
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 22, 2010 8:49:55 GMT -5
Posts: 2,384
|
Post by rockon on Jan 19, 2011 12:12:29 GMT -5
Makes me wonder about a few things. 1- Will my kids get this benefit until they are 26? 2- Will there be any maximum cap on this perk? 3- What about pre existing conditions?
|
|
Tennesseer
Member Emeritus
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 21:58:42 GMT -5
Posts: 64,924
|
Post by Tennesseer on Jan 19, 2011 12:15:46 GMT -5
rockon-do you live in Berkeley?
|
|
billisonboard
Community Leader
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 22:45:44 GMT -5
Posts: 38,484
|
Post by billisonboard on Jan 19, 2011 12:20:45 GMT -5
Makes me wonder about a few things. 1- Will my kids get this benefit until they are 26? 2- Will there be any maximum cap on this perk? 3- What about pre existing conditions? 1. Your children will benefit for the rest of their lives when you have been able to have your body parts adjusted to match your mental gender identity. 2. 36D. 3. Some will be removed. Let me know if I can answer any more of your questions.
|
|
|
Post by Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ on Jan 19, 2011 12:23:03 GMT -5
How about any girl/woman with an Adams apple?
Hey Tenn, you must be thinking of that mid-90s movie with Patrick Swayze called: "To Wong Foo Thanks for Everything, Julie Newmar"
|
|
rockon
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 22, 2010 8:49:55 GMT -5
Posts: 2,384
|
Post by rockon on Jan 19, 2011 12:54:08 GMT -5
Great one Billison and Tenn no I don't live in Berkeley but I thought what happens in CA is usually the mandate for the whole country.
|
|
Tennesseer
Member Emeritus
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 21:58:42 GMT -5
Posts: 64,924
|
Post by Tennesseer on Jan 19, 2011 13:16:50 GMT -5
Berkeley has always been known for marching to the beat of a different drummer since at least the 1960s.
|
|
|
Post by ed1066 on Jan 19, 2011 13:18:48 GMT -5
You better pray that isn't true, otherwise this country is truly doomed. California is a welfare state currently circling the drain...
|
|
floridayankee
Junior Associate
If You Don't Stand Behind Our Troops, Feel Free to Stand in Front of Them.
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 14:56:05 GMT -5
Posts: 7,461
|
Post by floridayankee on Jan 19, 2011 14:49:49 GMT -5
Note to self: Always check for an Adam's apple if a girl says she's from the San Fran Bay area...... How about any girl/woman with an Adams apple? No worries here....they're all yours buddy. lol...... Seen a few "ladies" in Key West and sorry to say a group of drunk guys were coming on to them. It sort of makes you wonder if they even knew. I always say...more power to ya if that's what you're in to.
|
|
Tennesseer
Member Emeritus
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 21:58:42 GMT -5
Posts: 64,924
|
Post by Tennesseer on Jan 19, 2011 15:55:44 GMT -5
It appears Ann Coulter is officially off limits.
|
|