US Jobs: Coming or Going?

[sunrnr]

Nov 1, 2012 0:45:39 GMT -5 Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger said:

Sun! Mind if I steal that article for the jobs section of this site?

"Your talent is God's gifts to you. What you do with it is your gift to God"
- Unknown
Absolutely! I didn't quite know where to post it so have at it.

[Opti]

More will be going if Romney is elected.

[sunrnr]

money.usnews.com/money/business-economy/slideshows/10-industries-where-jobs-are-coming-back

www.nbcnews.com/business/economywatch/factory-jobs-return-us-need-technical-training-grows-726442

www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/united-states/120504/american-manufacturing-jobs-returning-outsourcing-reshoring

[Steady As She Goes]

Nov 1, 2012 6:27:18 GMT -5 Opti said:

More will be going if Romney is elected.

Going where exactly

Looks to me like a lot of jobs are and will be coming back.

Wow, sunrnr!
You just posted some 2 million jobs opening up. I wonder which administration will be taking credit for all of them.

[usaone]

Nov 1, 2012 6:47:02 GMT -5 @lonewolf said:

Nov 1, 2012 6:27:18 GMT -5 Opti said:

More will be going if Romney is elected.

Do you really think so?
Word in our little business community is that if he's elected, money that's now being hoarded will start getting spent. But that's just what I'm hearing.

Crazy talk. Business people invest when they have customer demand. Not when some guy in Washington is changed.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Sweet thanks Sun!

Nov 1, 2012 15:55:43 GMT -5 Steady As She Goes said:

Nov 1, 2012 6:27:18 GMT -5 Opti said:

More will be going if Romney is elected.

Going where exactly

Looks to me like a lot of jobs are and will be coming back.

Wow, sunrnr!
You just posted some 2 million jobs opening up. I wonder which administration will be taking credit for all of them.

That's another reason I have been slacking on posting a bit lately, the American Renaissance lead by Free Enterprise is a long term trend that has nothing to do with the politicians, except the fact they got us in this massive debt. As all can see from Sun's articles the AR is alive and well.

I just really don't like it when either side tries to take credit for the natural cycle of business and the nature that goes along with it. Great points Steady, as usual!

[decoy409]

Looks like they certainly did invest. Just not the type of 'game play' that you would consider investing.

Still on it about coming or going? How about hitting the MAINSTREAM MEDIA up with that and address the MILLIONS. Why while doing so offer a WHOLE NEW THREAD where you can direct them to. Listen to them and get their opinions.

Here are the ones you will be directing your coming or going to,

Nov. 3,2012 - Not only are jobs being destroyed in America on a daily basis, but once those jobs are lost it is becoming harder and harder to create new ones. The official unemployment rate hovers around 8%, but it doesn’t tell the whole story.

If you lose your job, you’re going to be waiting a long, long time before you find a new one. So says a new report from the Bureau of Labor and Statistics:

'The long-term unemployment rate rose to 40.6 percent in October, up from September’s level of 40.1 percent of the total unemployed, according to a report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics Friday.

Long-term unemployment is unemployment lasting for 27 consecutive weeks or longer, according to BLS.'

The government reported that just over 5 million people were unemployed for more than six months – 27 weeks – rising from September’s level of 4.8 million.

Those official numbers are, of course, padded. Calculating unemployment in the same manner it was done prior to 1994, we’d have official unemployment statistics of closer to 22% as outlined by economist John Williams.

These are massive numbers that affect tens of millions of Americans who are, by all reasonable assessments, living in a modern day depression.

Jobs are being lost daily. They are not coming back.

Bottom line: there can be no recovery until people get back to work, and this isn’t going to happen anytime soon.

Delivered by The Daily Sheeple'

Yes the numbers derrived from the horses mouth,and those of actual reflecting as to coming and going,they certainly do not mix well at all.

After all,you do have to keep those company earnings up and the bills serviced in the houses town don't you? And that would have worked out in a HONEST FASHION for all,but instead now you have a DEBT to Gdp that has naturally taken a flop due just the opposite.

[decoy409]

Today's POST Headlines Start Here

Good morning folks!

Looks like, 'people like that' that somebody stated about us here and when we see how wrong they are,take off,must have happened?

So how many endured the line up? Did you get your free water and granola bar? How about your car towed while waiting in one of those comical lines?

Ok enough of the fast fun questions as there is a whole lot going on outside of the sideshow,

Nov. 5,2012 - Did Hurricane Sandy Cause $36.5 Trillion In Damage?

excerpt - The vault in question belongs to the Depository Trust & Clearing Corporation or DTCC, a clearing house for Wall Street firms, owned by Wall Street firms. On its own website , the DTCC describes itself like this:

theautomaticearth.com/Finance/did-hurricane-sandy-cause-365-trillion-in-damage.html

Some say no effect and others say great for a Black Swan. Guess we will have to wait and SEE. This way would much rather have a original copy rather than that of one computer generated with too much room to smudge upon.

meanwhile,

We were getting a kick out of the following (Oct. 29,2012) by Dr. Paul Craig Roberts. Have a good laugh and run through the stats and numbers,then ask yourself how you pay down or even try to fanthom payoff of,DEBT,

Oct. 29,2012 - The Virtual Recovery

excerpt - It is easy to see why there is no economic recovery and cannot be an economic recovery. Look at the chart below (courtesy of John Williams, shadowstats.com).

excerpt - The bond market bubble will pop if the dollar bubble pops. The Federal Reserve can sustain the bond market bubble by purchasing bonds, and there are no limits on the Federal Reserve’s ability to purchase bonds. However, the endless monetization of debt, even if the new money is stuck in the banks and does not find its way into the economy, can spook foreign holders of dollar-denominated assets.

www.paulcraigroberts.org/

Yep,were watching and the set up is so darling ripe. Best pick before the artificial coloring comes off the roten fruit as the wax applied coating is darn near warn off now.

We posted the following in the now dead thread 'jobs coming or going',and reapply it here coinciding with Dr. Roberts,

Nov. 3,2012 - Not only are jobs being destroyed in America on a daily basis, but once those jobs are lost it is becoming harder and harder to create new ones. The official unemployment rate hovers around 8%, but it doesn’t tell the whole story.

If you lose your job, you’re going to be waiting a long, long time before you find a new one. So says a new report from the Bureau of Labor and Statistics:

'The long-term unemployment rate rose to 40.6 percent in October, up from September’s level of 40.1 percent of the total unemployed, according to a report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics Friday.

Long-term unemployment is unemployment lasting for 27 consecutive weeks or longer, according to BLS.'

The government reported that just over 5 million people were unemployed for more than six months – 27 weeks – rising from September’s level of 4.8 million.

Those official numbers are, of course, padded. Calculating unemployment in the same manner it was done prior to 1994, we’d have official unemployment statistics of closer to 22% as outlined by economist John Williams.

These are massive numbers that affect tens of millions of Americans who are, by all reasonable assessments, living in a modern day depression.

Jobs are being lost daily. They are not coming back.

Bottom line: there can be no recovery until people get back to work, and this isn’t going to happen anytime soon.

Delivered by The Daily Sheeple'

Yes the numbers derrived from the horses mouth,and those of actual reflecting as to coming and going,they certainly do not mix well at all.

After all,you do have to keep those company earnings up and the bills serviced in the houses town don't you? And that would have worked out in a HONEST FASHION for all,but instead now you have a DEBT to Gdp that has naturally taken a flop due just the opposite.

[sunrnr]

Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work.
Thomas A. Edison

www.naceweb.org/s09262012/job-outlook-2013/
www.usnews.com/news/articles/2011/02/01/10-best-cities-to-get-a-job
career-advice.monster.com/job-search/company-industry-research/2012-job-outlook/article.aspx
www.aacp.org/resources/student/pharmacyforyou/Pages/joboutlook.aspx

[decoy409]

Say,why don't you try (at least attempt) to check back in on all of that so called creation and report back on those that have actually been hired. Heck we have been.

So post away all you like the so called creation of disturbed media,why it shines.

[sunrnr]

Job creation through innovation .....
www.apple.com/about/job-creation/

States by recipient reported jobs ....
www.recovery.gov/Pages/TextView.aspx?data=recipientTopJobs&ViewAll=100

Top Job-Generating States ...
finance.yahoo.com/news/top-job-generating-states.html

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Over 1 million Samsung HDTVs sold in the US last month
www.engadget.com/2012/11/05/samsung-sold-over-1-million-hdtvs-last-month/

If it wasn't busy enough selling millions upon millions of smartphones, Samsung's TV department has proven it's no slouch either, with a record 1.15 million sets sold last month in the US alone. After noting "potential demand for super large TV," Samsung's focusing its attentions on the 75-inch ES9000 to help it sell the next million.

[sunrnr]

Never say never .....

Apple Manufacturing In USA: CEO Tim Cook Shares Company's Plans To Make A Line Of Macs In America

www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/06/apple-manufacturing-usa-macs_n_2249613.html

[damnotagain]

In a recent article it reads " In 2013 china will become the biggest consumer of luxury goods" .

You add onto that , china currently has and estimated 350 million middle class . That number is expected to double in the next few years. When looking at such numbers, I see only a further drop in Good paying American jobs .

Since the states are breaking the unions creating lower wages. This just further lowers the American standard of living while raising the worlds up.

stevennewman.com/letters-from-china-the-good-life/

[decoy409]

Cancelled by me Decoy.

[frankq]

Wow.....some things never change eh Steady?.......

[damnotagain]

Estimates for 4th qtr. US GDP growth  My guess 1.5 % . China is running at 8% . Jobs are coming or going?

[decoy409]

damnotagain, like they say,you can buy them books and they chew on the covers.  And is some instances,that wouldent matter if you did,or you dident.

All this creation that is going on....well there certainly is and has been. Just not in the respects as it has been HONESTLY given.

US Jobs: Coming or Going....that is the name of this thread title,

Well look at that.....why there is a uptick in, 'see ya later we are closing' and  'layoffs' that is.

Just a stop by here www.dailyjobcuts.com/ confirms the disconnect. I bet they have those chocolate smudges extra dipped now for the old coming or going.

Good old paper. Why the gift that keeps on giving,

Jan. 28,2013 - NYC hit with huge wave of homelessness

excerpt - (CNN) – New York City is experiencing its largest wave of homelessness since the Great Depression.
 
The spike started following cuts to a government rent subsidy program. Ironically, the impact of having to provide shelter to more than 20,000 homeless children each night is costing the city more money than the cost of the subsidies.
 
[3:37] “It costs $36,000 a year to shelter a homeless family in New York City. In comparison, a rental voucher is $10,000 a year. So it’s more than three times more expensive to have that family in shelter than it is to give that family permanent housing,” said Patrick Markee, a policy analyst at the non-profit Coalition for the Homeless.
 

Ester Fuchs teaches Public Policy and Political Science at Columbia University. She says it’s a prime example of how seeking short term solutions to budget problems can result in more tax dollars being spent down the road.
 

[4:03] “They’re going after what used to be called entitlements and they are not concerned with the ripple effects down the line for state governments or for city governments.”

cnnradio.cnn.com/2013/01/28/nyc-budget-cuts-cause-homeless-crisis/?hpt=hp_t3

Well the dam breaks are unable to hold back the insuing and are leaking awfully.

All the same it should be interesting to SEE what stories are created to cover the crumbs and the crumpling making more.

If you have not been up on the scene of REALITY for many such as those folks above,well it dident start yesterday and has grown increadibly worse over the past year and a half alone.

I speak about our youth and their future quite avidly,and I do so to put into perspective what many evade from doing. This is just a spot on the map,but a spot when combined with so many countless others. These spots form a colition,that would be YOUR future as I don't SEE any of us in our ripe old ages (God Bless we have those),taking care of things.

The powder puff hill created from fake snow,it is what it is and yet do we have answer as to where we would stand right now hadent it be for the MILLIONS,BILLIONS,TRILLIONS that has been thrown about and silent running currently in play adding to the kitty.

 

[decoy409]

Perhaps one of the contributors here can refresh their words as to the strong production that has come back   as we reflect on #139.

They probebly were just not aware of that in which has been ongoing would you say?

[decoy409]

The JOB REPORTED CREATION is over 2 MILLION PLUS,that can be seen on this page alone,WoW!

Now although we have our own views (and we do stick with them),we certainly would like to know why those above believed(?),and exclaimed such. As anything but has even remotely transpired.

[damnotagain]

Why with so many jobs coming back , O'bumble let's Jobs Council go! 

[decoy409]

Well the cuts have to start somewhere as they keep on a sayin'

Say,I dident know that cutting down the american workforce was suppose to be incorporated into the deficit

[decoy409]

Looks like the program is going quite well damnotagain,

If you like 'adverse' effects from that is,

Sept. 2012 - Fed Announces Aggressive New Stimulus To Combat Unemployment

www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/13/fed-stimulus-federal-reserve-qe_n_1881216.html

Why with a continuance of that along with the credit slip dept. why we could have a real explosion of jobs!

Like say tons of temp help for a day or two and weekly workers say sanctioned at a 1hr. or 2hr. per day type deal. Six to a house and ya got yourself a 8hr workday between the bunch,and a 40hr. work week between six.

Why then everbody go get that car loan ( ) together and have a house ride,and some good old fashioned GMO diets.  

Gotta love that creation!

[decoy409]

Say,lets not forget about this coming or going!

Remember!



China has now surpassed the old US as it's The NEWS!


Congradulations China! And sorry for those that avidly debated IT'S JUST NOT SO!

[damnotagain]

[frankq]

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[damnotagain]

500,000 drop out of labor market in march. BLS

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[sunrnr]

Damn,

Without a link or supporting documentation, it's impossible to interpret what's being shown. Is the Y-axis the total number of employed in the US, which is down the 500K? If so, could this be due to retirees, national guardsman off to war, deaths? What?

[damnotagain]

I do sight the BLS as the source.

now a follow up article to the crucified above.

Things just keep getting worse for the American worker, and by implication US economy, where as we have shown many times before, it pays just as well to sit back and collect disability and various welfare and entitlement checks, than to work .The best manifestation of this: the number of people not in the labor force which in March soared by a massive 663,000 to a record 90 million Americans who are no longer even looking for work. This was the biggest monthly increase in people dropping out of the labor force since January 2012, when the BLS did its census recast of the labor numbers. And even worse, the labor force participation rate plunged from an already abysmal 63.5% to 63.3% - the lowest since 1979! But at least it helped with the now painfully grotesque propaganda that the US unemployment rate is "improving."


www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-05/people-not-labor-force-soar-663000-90-million-labor-force-participation-rate-1979-le

www.businessinsider.com/march-labor-force-participation-rate-2013-4

[frankq]

Interesting....you guys tell us that the government feeds us bullshit information, but then you cite (usually incorrectly because you don't/can't read the information fully most of the time) the BLS. Again, your assertions involves ONE MILLION sequester jobs. Nobody is saying we have full employment or that the economy is robust. Again, you can't seem to stay focused. Please check a couple of posts previous for just some local job openings and count them.... As an aside, it must be nice for some people to have the option of no longer having to look for work......Just saying.....