Newt Gingrich's companies......

[Value Buy]

Anyone catch the list the major cable channels had on all of Newt's different companies, and subsidiaries?

One was:
"Winning the Future"

Now where have I heard that before?

[Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ]

Who is Obama involved with? Weather Underground? Moveon.Org? OWS? All organizations whose goal is to destroy the middle class and the companies the MC works for.

[Value Buy]

Savior, I am still trying to remember that slogan........
Where was it, that I heard it?
Winning the Future
Winning the Future
Winning the Future

It's on the tip of my tongue, it will come to me.....

[billisonboard]

Nov 19, 2011 10:46:18 GMT -5 Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ said:

Who is Obama involved with? Weather Underground? ...

I see which way the wind is blowing.

[billisonboard]

Hey, it worked for Nixon in '68

[djAdvocate]

Nov 19, 2011 10:46:18 GMT -5 Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ said:

Who is Obama involved with? Weather Underground? Moveon.Org? OWS? All organizations whose goal is to destroy the middle class and the companies the MC works for.

MoveOn wants to destroy America? news to me.

[mmhmm]

May I ask what anyone would gain by "destroying the middle class"? Why would anybody want to do that? Where's the gain in doing that?

[Value Buy]

Winning the Future
Winning the Future
Winning the Future
Winning the Future
Winning the Future
Winning the Future
Winning the Future
Winning the Future

Now I remember. It is another WTF MOMENT.
President Obama's re-election campaign slogan.

Now, I want to know, who came up with this title first?
Newt?
The President's staff?

[Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ]

May I ask what anyone would gain by "destroying the middle class"? Why would anybody want to do that? Where's the gain in doing that?

It is an unintended consequence. However, it does create and maintain a constituency.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Nov 19, 2011 10:46:18 GMT -5 Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ said:

Who is Obama involved with? Weather Underground? Moveon.Org? OWS? All organizations whose goal is to destroy the middle class and the companies the MC works for.

ACORN, SEIU...

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Nov 19, 2011 11:44:02 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Winning the Future
Winning the Future
Winning the Future
Winning the Future
Winning the Future
Winning the Future
Winning the Future
Winning the Future

Now I remember. It is another WTF MOMENT.
President Obama's re-election campaign slogan.

Now, I want to know, who came up with this title first?
Newt?
The President's staff?

Newt wrote a book by the Sam title long before Obama was even an IL State senator

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

@&$*# auto correct!

[djAdvocate]

Nov 19, 2011 11:45:43 GMT -5 Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ said:

May I ask what anyone would gain by "destroying the middle class"? Why would anybody want to do that? Where's the gain in doing that?

It is an unintended consequence. However, it does create and maintain a constituency.

only if you are not part of that class.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Nov 19, 2011 11:25:29 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

May I ask what anyone would gain by "destroying the middle class"? Why would anybody want to do that? Where's the gain in doing that?

I grow weary of the ignorance of people who still don't know what Obama is up to...

looktruenorth.com/culture/far-left-madness/12664-cloward-piven-and-the-demise-of-democracy-part-1.html

Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven were two, married, socialist professors who taught at Columbia University back in the 1960’s. They were members of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) who had a dream of tearing down American capitalism and replacing it with a Socialist/Marxist form of government.

Their mentor? None other than Saul Alinsky, the man who dedicated his book “Rules for Radicals” to Lucifer, “the original community organizer.”

Cloward and Piven had a strategy for “reform”, one they clearly explained in a May 2, 1966 article in Nation Magazine. They believed that by overloading “the system”, any system, you could created enough chaos to make it possible to destroy that “system”. Once destroyed, a new “system” could be put into place.

Basically, their goal was to overload capitalism to the point where it failed, thereby making it easier to install socialism.

They decided to test their theory in a big way, using the New York welfare system as a guinea pig. To do this, they strategized that there were thousands, if not millions, of potential welfare recipients who were currently not receiving welfare. If they could locate these people, along with others who actually didn’t qualify, and sign them all up for entitlements, they could overload the current NY welfare department to the point of bankruptcy.

It was one, big science experiment.

They formed an organization called the National Rights Welfare Organization, and combined with members from the SDS (Students for Democratic Society) to help them with their task.

What you need to know is that SDS, despite the name, was anything but democratic. They were radical, socialist/communist students who are at the heart of all of the corruption we’re seeing today.

Guess who were members of SDS in the 1960’s?….

Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, Wade Rathke, Jeff Jones …..

SDS later branched into other groups, two of which were the Weatherman Underground (Ayers, Dohrn, Jones) and ACORN (Rathke).

These SDS members helped Cloward and Piven to take down the NY welfare system. What was brilliant about this strategy is that it acted in a way that appeared to be helping people. They looked like they were trying to help “the poor” get the welfare they deserved, but their real objective was to overload the system, to tear the system apart.

One of the stated objectives of Cloward and Piven in The Nation Magazine article was that they wanted “fundamental change” in the government.

Where have we heard that before?

By overwhelming the NY government with welfare recipients, Cloward/Piven succeeded in their mission and brought the state to near-bankruptcy. Municipal bonds in the city depreciated to nearly zero. Rudy Giuliani, in one of his speeches, credited Cloward and Piven for nearly destroying the welfare system in his state.

The experiment had worked.

Cloward and Piven decided to try the strategy on a larger scale. In the 1970’s, these socialists came up with a couple of other ideas, one of which was to take down the housing market in the name of helping the inner city poor. They identified Jimmy Carter as “one of their own” and helped to get him elected to office. Once in office, they helped him push through an initiative called the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977, a nice sounding bill that would “help” people of low income to become homeowners.

It was a fairly weak bill, so the democrats attempted to strengthen it throughout the 1980’s- Reagan wouldn’t bite. They succeeded in 1995 when, under President Clinton, the bill was made significantly stronger.

So what did this bill do? It insisted that lending institutions give out mortgages to people who they knew couldn’t and wouldn’t pay them back. The 1995 updated version of the bill included severe penalties and litigation for any banking institution that wouldn’t comply. The government assured these institutions that if they lost money by giving out these bad loans, they would be reimbursed. The banks then had an incentive to lend out these “subprime loans”, which would “help the poor.”

Before 1995, any bank who wouldn’t give out these bad loans faced a lawsuit from our good friends at ACORN.

Yup, that ACORN.

They were a community organizing group, started in the late 1960’s with the same premise as the rest of the Socialist groups, to “help the poor.” Their actual purpose was to overwhelm the system, create chaos in the inner cities, and bring them down. Their founder? None other than Wade Rathke, a member of SDS.

Who helped him start ACORN? Cloward and Piven.

Case in point: In 1994, Citibank refused to give out subprime loans to unqualified people. A lawsuit quickly followed from ACORN. You’ll never guess who was one of the ACORN lawyers involved in the lawsuit?

Barack Obama.

Our President, the Messiah, sued Citibank because they refused to give out loans which they knew would never be paid back. He did it under the guise of “racism” and used the Community Redevelopment Act of 1977 as his foundation for the lawsuit.

This lawsuit was settled out of court.

Obama was paid for his efforts.

In 1995, with a strengthened piece of legislation, ACORN employees began protesting at the private homes of the presidents of banks, accusing these executives of “racism.” The pressure on these executives to give out these bad loans became overbearing. ACORN infiltrated Fannie and Freddie, two private entities which were financially backed by the government, by getting “cohorts in crime” involved at the highest levels of the organizations. The cover up, embezzlement, and corruption in these two organizations was estimated at over a billion dollars.

One of the CEO’s, Franklin Raines, walked away with about $90 Million in his pocket.

As we now know, the housing market was overwhelmed and recently collapsed, causing much of our current economic crisis.

Cloward and Piven had accomplished another mission.

Yet, this sordid little tale doesn’t stop here….

There’s more to come……stay tuned.

lsm

Cross-posted at Awaken the Elephants

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

We face a crisis in the left's economic attack on America not dissimilar from our war with radical Islam (with whom many of the leftist find themselves an alliance of convenience), in that most of America doesn't know, or would prefer not to believe that there's a radical element in the Democratic Party led by the President that is deliberately creating all this economic chaos because they are fundamentally anti-American (at least as it was founded).

And that's really just the beginning. Obama's friend and political ally Bill Ayers is reported to have said basically that those that don't ultimately get with the program [paraphrasing] will have to be killed. At the time he allegedly said this he put the estimated number to be exterminated at around 25 million, about the same number their Soviet and Vietnamese cohorts murdered. I will grant I have no evidence he actually said this, but he is an unrepentant terrorist, communists do end up murdering their political foes, and it is from a reasonably creditable source.

[Mkitty is pro kitty]

You guys are about a week early for this. Save the turkey wrapped in tin foil for Thursday.

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Nov 19, 2011 13:23:18 GMT -5 Mkitty is pro kitty said:

You guys are about a week early for this. Save the turkey wrapped in tin foil for Thursday.

It's all baked ham for my family this weekend.

Seriously, I have a problem with WTF being involved with both the President and Gingrich.
Is the President a RINO in disguise as a Communist?

[diamonds]

Nov 19, 2011 12:41:31 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Nov 19, 2011 10:46:18 GMT -5 Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ said:

Who is Obama involved with? Weather Underground? Moveon.Org? OWS? All organizations whose goal is to destroy the middle class and the companies the MC works for.

ACORN, SEIU...

[diamonds]

>>>I grow weary of the ignorance of people who still don't know what Obama is up to...<<<

<sigh> The majority of people never did their homework and need a little refresher course...
k to you for the printout....hey, if people want to turn a blind eye, that's their problem and a big one to boot!

[mmhmm]

I grow weary of the ignorance of people who still don't know what Obama is up to...

Or, perhaps you grow weary of trying to convince people you're the one who knows all, paul. Not everyone who doesn't agree with you is ignorant, believe me.

[Mkitty is pro kitty]

Is the President a RINO in disguise as a Communist?

Well since he's a Democrat, it's impossible for him to be a Republican In Name Only. Since you couldn't seem to figure even that out, I won't waste time explaining about the Communist part.

[djAdvocate]

Nov 19, 2011 12:55:41 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Nov 19, 2011 11:25:29 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

May I ask what anyone would gain by "destroying the middle class"? Why would anybody want to do that? Where's the gain in doing that?

I grow weary of the ignorance of people who still don't know what Obama is up to...

i know precisely what he is up to. it is right out there for everyone to see. he is trying to lead from the center. it is pure idiocy.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Nov 19, 2011 13:23:18 GMT -5 Mkitty is pro kitty said:

You guys are about a week early for this. Save the turkey wrapped in tin foil for Thursday.

The question was, why would anyone want to deliberately collapse the economy / welfare system, and the answer isnt't some black helicopter conspiracy theory, but a very well-thought-out essay written by some folks connected to the Democratic Party, and Obama.

If you'd care to post something contradictory, do it- but you can't hide behind name calling and casting aspersions.

[cereb]

Nov 19, 2011 13:59:59 GMT -5 diamonds said:

>>>I grow weary of the ignorance of people who still don't know what Obama is up to...<<<

<sigh> The majority of people never did their homework and need a little refresher course...
k to you for the printout....hey, if people want to turn a blind eye, that's their problem and a big one to boot!

Ah.... so the circle jerk begins. Most of us did do our homework instead of taking the word of Glen Beck, Rush limpbo and the other six degrees of Kevin Bacon players. You folks are a hoot and a half. Buncha useful idiots, passing on the propaganda. How's that 16 dollar muffin story coming along...get all the mileage out of that one yet?

[ungenteel]

<<Who is Obama involved with? Weather Underground?>>

What kind of dip would suggest this? Obama was 7 years old in 1968

[diamonds]

>>>Or, perhaps you grow weary of trying to convince people you're the one who knows all, paul. Not everyone who doesn't agree with you is ignorant, believe me.<<<

I see how the Lberals are getting testy when their Perfect Leader of the Free World is not what he was cracked up to be.
cereb: No propaganda from anyone, no need for name calling, buck up and face reality. This man is disrespected world-wide and vice-versa. So sorry....

[cereb]

Nov 19, 2011 20:18:18 GMT -5 diamonds said:

>>>Or, perhaps you grow weary of trying to convince people you're the one who knows all, paul. Not everyone who doesn't agree with you is ignorant, believe me.<<<

I see how the Lberals are getting testy when their Perfect Leader of the Free World is not what he was cracked up to be.
cereb: No propaganda from anyone, no need for name calling, buck up and face reality. This man is disrespected world-wide and vice-versa. So sorry....

Uh, no. You couldn't possibly be more wrong. Firstly, the "perfect leader" thing is bullshit. The only folks who ever referred to the POTUS as "The Messiah" were the members of the I hate Obama club. It's so old, so boring and so last year. I have lots of issues with Obama and they way he has handled things. Problem for you remains, those things I take issue with are based in reality. You know it, I know it. The circle jerk club can congratulate themselves all they like and repeat the same crap over and over, it still won't be true the thousandth time you say it. Can't even have a thread about anything without someone bringing up "but Obama, But Obama, well Obama," And before you even go there, Bush isn't in office.

Rag on the POTUS all you like, but as I have said repeatedly, lets base it on actual facts.

[cereb]

"cereb: No propaganda from anyone,"


Really? Tell us all that 16 dollar muffin story again. How's about the Kobe beef and lobster at the Waldorf Astoria story? That's just a start.

[deziloooooo]

Nov 19, 2011 14:54:04 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

I grow weary of the ignorance of people who still don't know what Obama is up to...

Or, perhaps you grow weary of trying to convince people you're the one who knows all, paul. Not everyone who doesn't agree with you is ignorant, believe me.

Amen to that and to be honest mmhmm...all you get lately is the same old , same old..from mostly the same posters...as if most of the rest , if here , are just ignoring..or shrugging it off..

[cereb]

"buck up and face reality. This man is disrespected world-wide and vice-versa. So sorry.... "


So sorry, here's some reality for you.

www.pewglobal.org/database/?indicator=6