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Post by itstippy on Jan 25, 2011 20:53:03 GMT -5
I wonder what happens when you "Like" something on Facebook?
20 years ago I had a co-worker who's little girl "Randi" loved to get mail. I started sending in all my "product registration" cards under her daughter's name and address. Product registration cards were ridiculous - to "register" a toaster (presumably so you'd have a warranty) you had to answer all kinds of questions about what magazines you read, what type of music you like, etc. They were obviously used to create mailing lists.
I decided Randi was interested in a WIDE variety of stuff - candle-making, classical music, yoga, home canning, pro wrestling, monster trucks, power of prayer, power of crystals, etc. She started getting mail-order crap and solicitations for donations by the handful. Then by the double handful. Stacks of the things. My coworker BEGGED me to PLEASE STOP. Her mailman threatend to quit delivering to the house.
Randi still gets an occasional piece of mail at her Mom's house from some list I put her on way back when she was 6 years old. Har.
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Post by comokate on Jan 27, 2011 18:54:45 GMT -5
NEW YORK (AP) -- Facebook users who check in to a store or click the "like" button for a brand may soon find those actions retransmitted on their friends' pages as a "Sponsored Story" paid for by advertisers.... Currently there is no way for users to decline this feature. ....Involving users in advertisements without their consent has been a thorny issue for Facebook. Marc Rotenberg, executive director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, said in this case the company is making money off a person's name or likeness without their consent. He calls it "subtle and misleading" and says users should object. finance.yahoo.com/news/Facebook-to-let-advertisers-apf-1912961417.html?x=0Facebook may be seeing a backlash in the future; can you imagine how people here would react if they had to take responsibility in "the real world" for what they post here ? |
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Post by nicomachus on Feb 10, 2011 21:40:13 GMT -5
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Feb 10, 2011 22:21:47 GMT -5
Apparently Facebook recently told the distributors of the major games that use Facebook as a platform that 30% of their revenue now belongs to Facebook. The game makers threw a fit, but what are they going to do?  |
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Post by itstippy on Feb 11, 2011 6:46:47 GMT -5
This is serious. There's already systemic risk in the critical global social-networking-games sector due to Facebook's dominance. They're "too big to fail" and they know it.
America's social-networking-games-player-community needs to get organized. They must unite in opposition to this madness. They should send each other "tweets" and organize a huge cyber rally to show Facebook they're not going to be pushed around. The top game-players have cloaks of immunity and can shoot nuclear fireballs out of their asses - they're nothing Facebook would care to mess with.
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Post by vl on Feb 11, 2011 8:31:38 GMT -5
There is now a full blown SEC investigation into these private reverse equity deals like this...thats not public information! Read more: notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=moneytalk&action=display&thread=1486#ixzz1Dem84WfzToo little too late. Kids are spending 4-5 hours a DAY on Facebook. It is wholly counter to what we need right now. There is an Obesity campaign in play and a rampant electronic disease by the name of Facebook making young bodies stop moving for long periods of time while staring at over-lit screens. I'd rather it was shut down and Golden Sacks forced out of America. We're dying folks... caused by innovations that harm us. |
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Post by nicomachus on Feb 11, 2011 12:34:55 GMT -5
Yeah but then it could just buy the Huffington Post and make a comeback.
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Post by comokate on Feb 11, 2011 14:07:27 GMT -5
There is now a full blown SEC investigation into these private reverse equity deals like this...thats not public information! Read more: notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=moneytalk&action=display&thread=1486#ixzz1Dem84WfzToo little too late. Kids are spending 4-5 hours a DAY on Facebook. It is wholly counter to what we need right now. There is an Obesity campaign in play and a rampant electronic disease by the name of Facebook making young bodies stop moving for long periods of time while staring at over-lit screens. I'd rather it was shut down and Golden Sacks forced out of America. We're dying folks... caused by innovations that harm us. V-L, while I agree with your main points, this could become a fairly philosophical debate. There is no "prefect age" humanity can go back to. You can refer to any historical technological "break through" to see how it quickly became misused, often far from it's original purpose. The majority of suffering, and that of greatest magnitude, from the misuse of technology is generally found in the common masses. No matter what technological innovations are devised to manipulate the laws of nature, there will eternally be human nature to contend with. That is why the study of the human mind, psychology, fascinates me. We currently possess all the technology needed to feed, clothe, educate and house every human on this planet. The problems we face are not caused by any external device we create, the problems we face are created "within". We have lost, on a massive scale, societal "rules" used to safeguard humanity from it's own, innate "vices". Every civilization on this planet at one time or another had a mythology used to describe the traditional "vices" of mankind and what unchecked lust for material objects, power, reproduction, vindictiveness, leisure, rage, and vanity would cost to humanity. Religion, traditional family units, community morality standards, etc have been on rapid decline. In their empty place exists a vacuum that has become increasingly filled with the very behavior those old social checking systems sought to control. Until the need for a social check and balance system is realized, and restored, it matters little what the man-made technological device in question is, it will be abused and used to exploit others. Technology has advanced. Human nature has not. edit: look up the effects of the "industrial revolution" on the formerly agrarian people of that time, also read a few of the writings of Voltaire- |
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Post by neohguy on Feb 11, 2011 14:19:28 GMT -5
I've got to throw my hat in with V_L on this one. Admittedly, I've never visited Facebook and I've never tweeted or twitted in my life. I don't think I'm missing a thing. It amazes me how much time and money that people of limited money spend on this stuff.
I do like having access to the Internet for research and e-mailing but I have no desire to informed in real time every time somebody wants to say or show me something. Hell, I usually shut off or mute my cell phone when I leave the house.
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Post by itstippy on Feb 11, 2011 15:31:20 GMT -5
Thanks Virgil, for your post about Facebook getting revenue from online games. That's the first potential revenue stream I've heard of besides banner ads, and it's got potential. People spend big money on games.
The social consequences of Facebook and its impact on young people is interesting to ponder. I don't think it's necessarily "bad" or "good". Moderation and focus is the key. I was young once, and Facebook might have been a lot of fun, in moderation.
Young folk who spend 6 hours a day on Facebook are missing out on other fun stuff. It was fun to ace my math tests. It was also fun to cruise around aimlessly drinking beer and smoking weed with a bunch of other goofy kids. Spend too much time in one pursuit or the other and you miss out.
If kids are fooling around on Facebook while simultaneously studying math or cruising they're not focused on what they're doing. They'll stink at math, cruising, AND Facebooking. They'll be losers and (horrors!) uncool. That's what's different, in my eyes. Legions of young folks bumbling through life with ear buds in their ears and their eyes focused on their smart phones. They're so distracted they wouldn't notice a naked member of the opposite sex standing right in front of them with a "come hither" look. Buncha zombies!
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Post by The Virginian on Feb 11, 2011 15:58:24 GMT -5
It will be interesting to watch and see if they start bailing out to other platforms to avoid paying Face Book. That's the dilemma Internet networks face - if it's not free people don't want any part of it!
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Post by itstippy on Feb 12, 2011 18:25:37 GMT -5
It's clear that Facebook is not a good place to try hiring a hit, so that potential revenue stream is out:
February 12, 2011 (WEST CHESTER, Pa.) -- A Chester County teenager faces 11 to 22 years in prison after agreeing to a plea agreement on charges he used Facebook to try to hire a hit man to kill a woman who had accused him of rape.
Nineteen-year-old West Chester, Pa., resident Corey Christian Adams accepted the plea agreement Friday on charges of rape, criminal solicitation of murder and other counts.
In July, a 20-year-old woman who had accused Adams of raping her after a party called police to point out a posting on his Facebook page offering $500 for "a girls head." In a later posting, police say Adams said "he needed this girl knocked off right now."
The Daily Local News of West Chester reports that neither Adams nor his attorney commented outside court.
(Copyright ©2011 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
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