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Post by pilgrim47 on Nov 3, 2011 13:43:39 GMT -5
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Post by pilgrim47 on Nov 3, 2011 13:44:54 GMT -5
Vibrate at a different frequency?
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Post by pilgrim47 on Nov 3, 2011 13:45:44 GMT -5
Thanks, chiver... Much appreciated
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Post by jarhead1976 on Nov 3, 2011 13:47:18 GMT -5
In answer Tosh, I believe in Altruism and self sacrifice for the betterment of those we meet everywhere, anytime, everyday. Never mistake kindness for weakness they are not the same thing......... may pax vobiscum
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2011 13:47:52 GMT -5
Good evening Pilgrim, sleep well ? ;D I did, thanks... You? I believe that people who refer to themselves in the third party are to be feared. No, I fear Rick. Why do you ask Pilgrim ? It seems that non-believers 'believe' believers to be a danger to our existence... Jut wanted to make sure I'm not among those you fear.... Thus, the question. "Do you fear The Pilgrim"? I think you've got it wrong, perhaps non believers believe that believers are a danger to themselves and other believers of other beliefs.
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Post by Tosh on Nov 3, 2011 13:48:16 GMT -5
I slept like a bug in a rug. I can not speak on behalf of all atheists but I believe some religions are more dangerous than others, and some religious people are more dangerous than others. Some clever clogs once said " good people do good things and bad people do bad things, but it takes religion to make good people do bad things ". If one takes the only true religion of peace Jainism, they are almost paralyzed by their pacifism, hardly moving in case they step on a bug. Then we have Islam, a so called religion of peace, its extreme version is not avoiding bugs but stoning people to death for apostasy. As an atheist, I sometimes wonder if I am flying over the cuckoos nest.
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Post by Tosh on Nov 3, 2011 13:52:21 GMT -5
Noble principles and I share them
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Post by pilgrim47 on Nov 3, 2011 13:53:54 GMT -5
"I think you've got it wrong, perhaps non believers believe that believers are a danger to themselves and other believers of other beliefs"
And they would be right to a certain extent... But you non-believers must believe the the vast majority of believers are not out to get you, or anyone else But I 'believe' you are free to pick and choose if it suits your fancey...
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Post by pilgrim47 on Nov 3, 2011 13:56:27 GMT -5
"As an atheist, I sometimes wonder if I am flying over the cuckoos nest."
You apparently fly close to home... You really should get out more often... Close that book and take a ride
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Post by femmefatale on Nov 3, 2011 13:56:50 GMT -5
"I think you've got it wrong, perhaps non believers believe that believers are a danger to themselves and other believers of other beliefs" And they would be right to a certain extent... But you non-believers must believe the the vast majority of believers are not out to get you, or anyone else But I 'believe' you are free to pick and choose if it suits your fancey...
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Post by Tosh on Nov 3, 2011 13:56:58 GMT -5
Would the 21 st century be much different if Jesus had not been executed ?
Do you think it would be better or worse or just different ?
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Post by Shirina on Nov 3, 2011 14:00:51 GMT -5
I totally agree. In fact, I have successfully debated, argued, and discussed opinions on God for 2 years with two Muslims, a score of agnostics, a militant atheist, several Christians and, though not a proclaimed one, a Buddhist. In all of that time, I never had any issues with any of them, and quite a few could even be considered friends - as much as the internet allows.
Imagine my shock and awe when I arrived to this thread only to have the door essentially slammed in my face. People may not like what I bring to the table, but I have not insulted or picked a fight with anyone. Even so, in only a few short days, at least two people put me on their ignore list, Snerdley seems to be on a jihad against me for some undetermined reason, and I began to wonder if I had suddenly sprouted horns, fangs, cloven hooves, and a barbed tail. Much to my relief, a check in the mirror assured me this was not the case.
These threads are more about silly little popularity contests than they are about actually discussing anything, and the maturity level of *some* posters are at subterranean levels. I also know I am not alone in my opinion.
I don't come here to flirt and gab about banality. There's enough of that in my daily life. Yet I feel pressured into flouncing around like a schoolgirl or the wolfpack comes to set me straight.
I figure that if I'm going to be treated disrespectfully without any real provocation, I may as well hand disrespect right back.
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Post by pilgrim47 on Nov 3, 2011 14:01:05 GMT -5
I don't believe things would be any different today if Jesus had not been executed... People did not become what they are today because Jesus was executed... If we were "all" non-believers, we would still find a way to get what we want... Who would you blame it on then? Mankind?
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Post by Tosh on Nov 3, 2011 14:04:34 GMT -5
....or over your head. I go out all the time in the real world, can you honestly say the same ? My book is real, your ride is not my friend. Thanks but no thanks.
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Post by Tosh on Nov 3, 2011 14:08:29 GMT -5
Shirina,
We all love you, I would invite you over to Toshs Bar for a drink but alas the thread is in lock down.
Life is about personalities we are not robots.
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Post by Shirina on Nov 3, 2011 14:10:08 GMT -5
LOL, Tosh, I know it's not your fault. I've posted with you for a long time and on many a board so I know what you're about. You're here for the same reasons I am, but your charisma is landing you quite a little following.
You know me, as well, and with that knowledge, I think you can admit that I am not "unfriendly" or devoid of humor. Yet this thread feels like a private party by invite only and I'm treated as though I'm crashing the gate.
If that is the case, so be it. Gate crashing can be enjoyable, too!
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Post by pilgrim47 on Nov 3, 2011 14:10:53 GMT -5
"....or over your head."
That my friend, is a "belief" you should back away from.
"I go out all the time in the real world, can you honestly say the same "?
That would depend on your version of the real world... I'm beginning to "believe" your world consists of "God" threads, and nothing more... Not a jibe, just my honest opinion...
"My book is real, your ride is not my friend"
What do you "assume" my ride would be?
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Post by Tosh on Nov 3, 2011 14:13:28 GMT -5
When you study the success of human evolution, the biggest factor appears to have been our social nature, the ability to socialize is as important now as it has ever been.
Love thy neighbor as oneself has many practical advantages, it is not just spiritual gobbledygook.
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Post by femmefatale on Nov 3, 2011 14:15:22 GMT -5
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Post by Shirina on Nov 3, 2011 14:16:10 GMT -5
I think if more people who follow Christ actually spent time following his teachings, there would be less annoyed atheists in this world.
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Post by pilgrim47 on Nov 3, 2011 14:16:42 GMT -5
"Love thy neighbor as oneself has many practical advantages, it is not just spiritual gobbledygook."
Now that right there, is news! Who would have guessed?
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Post by chiver78 on Nov 3, 2011 14:16:49 GMT -5
I think if more people who follow Christ actually spent time following his teachings, there would be less annoyed atheists in this world.
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Post by Tosh on Nov 3, 2011 14:18:33 GMT -5
You first. ;D
Assuming this to be the case, then your world consists of following me around on God threads, not a jibe, just a logical observation.
I leave that between you and your imagination, it is not my ride.
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Post by femmefatale on Nov 3, 2011 14:18:54 GMT -5
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm........Nice.
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Post by femmefatale on Nov 3, 2011 14:21:15 GMT -5
I think if more people who follow Christ actually spent time following his teachings, there would be less annoyed atheists in this world. No one is perfect, now are they? Christians, atheists, any belief. Getting along would be a good first step instead of picking apart the "Christians" and how we act. We like to play and have fun just like any other human. Carry on.
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Post by pilgrim47 on Nov 3, 2011 14:23:28 GMT -5
"I leave that between you and your imagination, it is not my ride."
But you, in all your brilliance claim my ride is not real... Help me out here kiddo
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Post by moon/Laura on Nov 3, 2011 14:23:44 GMT -5
Tosh and Rick-
Both of you are behaving deplorably towards one another. This thread is NOT here for arguing and fighting. I agreed to let it be posted as long as it didn't turn into a war. That is not happening.
So.. either both of you put each other on ignore - meaning click that button on each other's profile that says ignore- or, the next snarky remark i see from one of you towards the other, I will shut this thread down and no others will be allowed.
That goes for ALL similar threads here.
I hope that I have made myself very clear.
~moon mod
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Post by chiver78 on Nov 3, 2011 14:24:14 GMT -5
No one is perfect, now are they? Christians, atheists, any belief. Getting along would be a good first step instead of picking apart the "Christians" and how we act. We like to play and have fun just like any other human. Carry on. I'm neither Christian nor atheist, dear. and I do tend to get along with anyone, regardless of their own beliefs, so long as they do not try to shove their beliefs and opinions down my throat. my signature line before the current one was something to the effect that religion is like genitalia - keep it to yourself unless invited to share the fun.
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Post by femmefatale on Nov 3, 2011 14:25:20 GMT -5
What do you mean by "similar"?
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