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Post by beags on Jan 10, 2013 17:14:40 GMT -5
*sigh* I hate you
not really.
Ok, I'll keep trying.
Although I could care less about karma points.
(I'm just doing this for fun)
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 10, 2013 17:19:47 GMT -5
All this work is building your brain. In fact, puzzle solving has been scientifically proven to be an excellent way to stave off Alzheimer's, dementia, old-age memory loss, etc. If I was lesser a man, I would charge you for therapy costs.
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Post by wyouser on Jan 10, 2013 17:23:53 GMT -5
All this work is building your brain. In fact, puzzle solving has been scientifically proven to be an excellent way to stave off Alzheimer's, dementia, old-age memory loss, etc. If I was lesser a man, I would charge you for therapy costs. As I recall, Lucy charges 5 cents...
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Post by wyouser on Jan 10, 2013 17:24:58 GMT -5
on the other hand...after 50 years of therapy...Linus still has a blanket issue ;D
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Post by beags on Jan 10, 2013 17:28:59 GMT -5
wait that doesn't make any sense. The only place Shoobs can see her guide is in a spot where sugi or lone can see it. At least by my markings if you go with directly across and two people.
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Post by beags on Jan 10, 2013 17:50:47 GMT -5
Ok, they are ANIMAL guides, Gaga is not an animal, it's a person.
The sitting order and the guides are . . . . starting at noon and going clockwise.
Beags/tipsy Welts/chimp Sugi/namaste Shoob/gaga Lone/wolf
Ok, now where are the guides? starting at noon and going clockwise. Namaste Butterfly Mystical Wolf Tipsy Beagle Lady Gaga Darwins chimp
Now the chimp isn't next to the wolf. Only one of either sugi or lonewolf can see Mystical wolf. Neither Sugi or Lonewolf can see gaga.
Gaga isn't an animal so her guide can be behind her.
That's all I can figure out where everything fits. (yes, I made that last one up about Shooby's guide)
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Jan 10, 2013 17:52:56 GMT -5
I guess that's a matter of opinion. ;D
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Post by beags on Jan 10, 2013 17:55:32 GMT -5
I guess that's a matter of opinion. ;D nope scientifically speaking . . Lady Gaga is indeed a human. She did not come from an animal. Now if you go by those little terms of what is human or animal, (that saying of all men are animals . .for example) then I suppose it's a matter of opinion. But scientifically, Gaga is a human and not an animal.
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Post by beags on Jan 10, 2013 17:57:32 GMT -5
on the other hand...after 50 years of therapy...Linus still has a blanket issue ;D you have a point there, but what do you expect for 5 cents, or 50 cents, whatever it is. It use to be 5 cents.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 10, 2013 18:05:03 GMT -5
Yeah. But thems was 1950 dollars. That's like $250.00 today. In terms of the order you give: Beags Weltz Sugi Shooby Lone Two of the names need to be swapped to get the correct order. Brute forcing this particular puzzle is bound to cause headaches. I recommend simply starting off with a diagram such as WSLUB WSLUB CGNWB CGNWB
O O
O o
WSLUB WSLUB CGNWB o CGNWB
WSLUB CGNWB where the 'WSLUB' is Weltz, Shooby, Lonewolf, s Ugilite, Beags, and where the 'CGNWB' is Chimp, Gaga, Namaste Butterfly, Wolf, Beagle. Each dot represents a position, and the letters next to it represent the individuals who could be sitting there, and the animals that could be sitting there. First we fix Weltz' position at the bottom (we can fix anybody's position anywhere as a first step, since all cyclic permutations yield the same answer), which means we eliminate the W for Weltz from all the others, and we eliminate all people except W for Weltz on the bottom position. Hence: SLUB SLUB CGNWB CGNWB
O O
O o
SLUB SLUB CGNWB o CGNWB
W CGNWB Then we apply the rules incrementally. For example, as a next step, we know that Weltz' animal is the chimp, so we can eliminate the 'C' for Chimp from any of the positions that Weltz can't see, leaving us with SLUB SLUB CGNWB CGNWB
O O
O o
SLUB SLUB GNWB o GNWB
W GNWB If at some point we can't go any further without making a guess between two or more possible configurations, we save a copy of what we have, make one assumption, and proceed with applying the rules. The assumption will either be wrong, in which case we'll find ourselves in a situation where we can't go any further without breaking at least one of the rules, or the assumption will be right, in which case we'll be able to eliminate all but one person and one spirit animal for each position. This problem is possible to solve by making a minimum of one assumption, and a set of any two or more assumptions will always prove itself right or wrong without any additional assumptions.
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Post by beags on Jan 10, 2013 20:55:33 GMT -5
I believe you have just confused this problem more for me.
I will try to figure it out your way.
I think differently than most other people you know.
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Post by beags on Jan 10, 2013 20:56:37 GMT -5
YOu already gave us at least 2 fixed positions in your clues.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 10, 2013 21:11:22 GMT -5
YOu already gave us at least 2 fixed positions in your clues. I suggest the existence of a "12:00 position", which is a contrivance to make the problem easier to visualize. The truth is that if A,B,C,D,E is a correct solution to this problem, then so are B,C,D,E,A, and C,D,E,A,B, and D,E,A,B,C, and E,A,B,C,D. They're all the same solution, just 'rotated'. And due to the way the problem is constructed, E,D,C,B,A (the reverse order) would also be a correct solution, as well as D,C,B,A,E, and C,B,A,E,D, and B,A,E,D,C, and A,E,D,C,B. In short, if you fix the position of any one of the people at any one of the positions to start the problem, there will always be 24 possible configurations for the the remaining four people, and two of those configurations will be correct solutions for the problem.
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Post by beags on Jan 10, 2013 21:33:42 GMT -5
I think I got it.
Starting at 12 position and going clockwise
Beags/namaste butterfly Gaga/chimp Lone/tipsy beagle Weltz/gaga Sugi/Mystical wolf
Each of our guide animals are
Beags/Tipsy Beagle Shooby/Gaga Lone/Mystical Wolf Weltz/chimp Sugi/Namaste Butterfly
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 10, 2013 22:41:57 GMT -5
I think I got it. Starting at 12 position and going clockwise Beags/namaste butterfly (correct person, correct animal)Gaga/chimp (assuming you mean Shooby/chimp, correct person, correct animal)Lone/tipsy beagle (correct person, correct animal)Weltz/gaga (correct animal, wrong person)Sugi/Mystical wolf (correct animal wrong person)Each of our guide animals are (all correct)Beags/Tipsy Beagle Shooby/Gaga Lone/Mystical Wolf Weltz/chimp Sugi/Namaste Butterfly One small error. See bold. I should point out that the problem is Sugi can't see her spirit animal. But the fix should be obvious enough.
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Post by beags on Jan 10, 2013 23:08:58 GMT -5
grrrrr, Ok. (clockwise starting at noon) Beags/Namaste Butterfly Shooby/Chimp Lone/Tipsy Beagle Sugi/Lady Gaga Weltz/Mystical Wolf spirit animal and their people: Beags/Tipsy Beagle Shooby/ Lady Gaga Lone/Mystical Wolf Sugi/Namaste Butterfly Weltz/Chimp
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 10, 2013 23:23:15 GMT -5
grrrrr, Ok. (clockwise starting at noon) Beags/Namaste Butterfly Shooby/Chimp Lone/Tipsy Beagle Sugi/Lady Gaga Weltz/Mystical Wolf spirit animal and their people: Beags/Tipsy Beagle Shooby/ Lady Gaga Lone/Mystical Wolf Sugi/Namaste Butterfly Weltz/Chimp You are... I'm sorry to say... after all that effort... sadly... very sadly... correct. K +20 for your enduring effort.
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Post by beags on Jan 10, 2013 23:41:09 GMT -5
I almost sent the snow leopards after you.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on May 15, 2013 17:57:37 GMT -5
Problem 71 - Virgil's PasswordWhile creating his blog, www.fightthesnowleopards.org, Virgil finds himself at a point where the software wants him to choose an admin password. Virgil tries his usual password, nospots!!, but the software informs him of some password restrictions. His password may only consist of letters and numbers; it must contain exactly 8 characters; and at least one character must be a number. Virgil quickly thinks of a compliant password, but, worried that he might forget it, he leaves himself the following hint: "You forsee an empty success." What is Virgil's password?Sadly, no more karma to give out to winners. But the first person to post the correct answer will get bragging rights.
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on May 15, 2013 18:12:40 GMT -5
spotwin1
(that's a rush-guess - I'll have to ponder this a while).
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2013 18:15:48 GMT -5
Who cares about Karma point when you already knows in your heart.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2013 18:16:46 GMT -5
I'm going with 0scuuess
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on May 15, 2013 18:19:59 GMT -5
You didn't read the instructions, Crafty - at least one of the eight characters has to be a number.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2013 18:22:28 GMT -5
That first one was a zero (that's the empty part)
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Post by Peace Of Mind on May 15, 2013 18:24:11 GMT -5
You didn't read the instructions, Crafty - at least one of the eight characters has to be a number. Wasn't her "0" a number? <<takes SL's wine from her>>
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on May 15, 2013 18:27:13 GMT -5
It's whiskey, but thanks <hic>
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Post by Peace Of Mind on May 15, 2013 18:29:23 GMT -5
nospotso0
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on May 15, 2013 18:32:47 GMT -5
I'm changing the digit I used:
spot0win ... or spotwin0
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Post by Peace Of Mind on May 15, 2013 18:33:40 GMT -5
spotwino1
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2013 18:38:17 GMT -5
spotwino1 Found 'em!
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