Opti
Community Leader
Joined: Dec 18, 2010 10:45:38 GMT -5
Posts: 42,232
Location: New Jersey
Mini-Profile Name Color: c28523
Mini-Profile Text Color: 990033
|
Post by Opti on Aug 31, 2012 13:34:14 GMT -5
Yay!
|
|
Virgil Showlion
Distinguished Associate
Moderator
[b]leones potest resistere[/b]
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 15:19:33 GMT -5
Posts: 27,448
|
Post by Virgil Showlion on Sept 18, 2012 22:21:27 GMT -5
Problem 68 - GridlockOddly enough, this problem cropped up as a corollary to a problem I'm solving in my current research. Suppose you have an infinite grid made up of squares, with nodes at each of the corners, like such: : : : : : : | | | | | | ...--o---o---o---o---o---o--... | | | | | | ...--o---o---o---o---o---o--... | | | | | | ...--o---o---o---o---o---o--... | | | | | | ...--o---o---o---o---o---o--... | | | | | | ...--o---o---o---o---o---o--... | | | | | | : : : : : : Each edge is labelled either 'A' or 'B'. There are two rules to the grid: - 1 - At each node (intersection of edges), the labels of the bottom edge and left edge must "cancel out" the labels of the top edge and right edge.
: | top | ...--- left ---o--- right --... | bottom | : Hence, if the bottom and left edges are both A, the top and right edges must also both be A. If the bottom edge is A and the left edge is B, then the top/right edges can either be B/A or A/B. Just as long as #A's in bottom and left = #A's in top and right.
- 2 - Looking at each square individually, the top and left edges must cancel out the bottom and right edges.
o-----top-----o | | | | | | left right | | | | | | o----bottom---o As an example in this case, if the top and left are both B, then the bottom and right must both be B. If the top and left are A and B, respectively, then the bottom and right can be A/B or B/A. Etc.
The idea is to assign A's and B's to as many edges as possible before you can no longer satisfy the rules. This is easy to do in the trivial case (just assign A's to every edge, or assign B's to every edge), but here's the complication: you have to start with one of the two following grids: GRID 1
o | A | o--B--o--A--o | | B B | | o--A--o--B--o | A | o
GRID 2
o | A | o--A--o--A--o | | B B | | o--A--o--A--o | A | o You can start with either. You'll note that rule 2 is satisfied for the complete square in both grids, but rule 1 is not satisfied for the two "complete" four-way intersections. This is by design for these particular nodes in these grids. (It's called a symmetry breaker.) You cannot change any of the assigned values of the existing edges above, and rule 1 applies everywhere except at these two nodes. The question I have is: Can you find a pattern of A's and B's such that you can extend the grid (while obeying the rules) infinitely in all directions?I suspect the answer is "no", but I honestly don't know. Thus, this brainteaser has no right answer. Anybody who earnestly attempts it will have my thanks and a small donation of karma for their trouble. You'll also be helping me to prove (or rather, disprove) a theorem I'm working on. So, can you prevent "gridlock"?
|
|
ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ
Community Leader
♡ ♡ BᏋՆᎥᏋᏉᏋ ♡ ♡
Joined: Dec 17, 2010 16:12:51 GMT -5
Posts: 43,130
Location: Inside POM's Head
Favorite Drink: Chilled White Zin
|
Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Sept 18, 2012 22:49:14 GMT -5
I'm going to have to read this again tomorrow and spend some time on it when my mind is fresher. It's too much thinking this late in the day.
|
|
chiver78
Administrator
Current Events Admin
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 13:04:45 GMT -5
Posts: 39,450
|
Post by chiver78 on Sept 18, 2012 22:54:44 GMT -5
I think this will have to wait until l can see it properly on a monitor....it doesn't make any sort of sense on my little phone screen, yikes. sent from my electronic distraction
|
|
Virgil Showlion
Distinguished Associate
Moderator
[b]leones potest resistere[/b]
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 15:19:33 GMT -5
Posts: 27,448
|
Post by Virgil Showlion on Dec 26, 2012 21:21:16 GMT -5
Problem 69 - ConfucEEus Say...ConfucEEus say: _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _. A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 To complete the saying, fill out the clues below and place the letters that appear over the labels (A-Z and 1-9) into their respective places above. Each clue is the username of a poster in the top #100 posters by post count on NSMNM. The hint provided for each clue is a quote by that poster. Note that clues are usernames and not display names. Many usernames are identical to display names, but some are very different. To find a member's username, point the mouse at their display name and a link will appear in the bottom left of your browser window. The last part of the link will be user= username, where username is the member's user name. For example, my username is syonidv. In a day or two, I will award karma as follows: - 1 karma for the first correct answer to each clue, up to five karma per poster. To be awarded the prize(s), please post no more than five answers, and post the member's karma count rather than their username. For example, if you solve clues 5, 8, and 13, and they have 100, 1000, and 750 karma respectively, reply:
5. 100 8. 1000 13. 750
- 15 karma for the first poster to PM me with the correct answer to the puzzle. Post "I got it." in this thread to notify others that you've solved the puzzle, but please do not post the solution.
- 10 karma for the second poster to...
- 7 karma for the third poster to...
- 3 karma for all other posters who...
Good luck. Clues:1. "Shitfire! I just got called to a meeting later today. Seriously?!" _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 3 B K
2. "Blame is a man made concept." _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ N X
3. "Also, practicing law seems to be hand holding and social work." _ _ _ _ _ O 6
4. "Oh Noez! A nonexistent cartoon character doesn't like Canada! I'm crushed, truly I am." _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I V S
5. "Actually, if you go overseas to adopt a child you have an excellent chance to get a seriously disturbed one." _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ F R 9
6. "I actually thought that "Hop" where the chickens cannot be the Easter Bunny because they weren't the right types, etc seemed to have an underlying racist type undertone. That only one right "type" could be the easter bunny, etc." _ _ _ _ _ _ M Z
7. "We decorate the thread so pretty. Too bad we can't decorate all of EE, with tinsel and stars." _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ C 5 L
8. "No, actually strictly by the numbers- Romney got moderates and independents in huge numbers. Obama got Democrats, and morons." _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ W 1
9. "I learned from my DH that the automations thingy was turned off on my computer. He turned it on for me so I could see what every body was talking about." _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 2 H
10. "They don't have a choice but to continue doing so. Unless of course admittance as to mini raiding and rape and pilfer and overcreation from nothing our to be owned up to." _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Y 8
11. "LIVE..[image] .DIE.[image] ..LIVE.[image] ..DIE...LIVE...DIE...LIVE...DIE...LIVE...DIE...LIVE...DIE...LIVE...DIE..." _ _ _ _ _ P A
12. "My one year old had juice for the first time yesterday. She finished a whole juice box and ended up vomiting all over my wife. It was like a scene from a cartoon. It just kept coming and coming and coming. Don't know how that much puke came from such a little girl. My wife also vomited from having so much vomit on her. It was something." _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ E J U
13. "When I was 20 I wanted a black panther on my shoulder. When I was 22 it moved to my hip. By 23 it was dancing Calvin and Hobbes on my hip. At 25 it was something around my ankle....so I was trendy and cliche all at the same time!" _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ D 7
14. "I know I sound stupid, but what wording would I use. Everything I am thinking of is convoluted or abrupt." _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ T Q
15. "On a more positive note, she's very responsive to my voice. Sometimes it makes her stop crying. Sometimes she just turns toward me when I speak, even if she's sleeping. It's so adorable I DIE." _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 4 G
|
|
ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ
Community Leader
♡ ♡ BᏋՆᎥᏋᏉᏋ ♡ ♡
Joined: Dec 17, 2010 16:12:51 GMT -5
Posts: 43,130
Location: Inside POM's Head
Favorite Drink: Chilled White Zin
|
Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Dec 26, 2012 21:24:13 GMT -5
I already know the answer to #4 - I'll have to study the rest though before I give my full list of answers.
|
|
chiver78
Administrator
Current Events Admin
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 13:04:45 GMT -5
Posts: 39,450
|
Post by chiver78 on Dec 26, 2012 21:30:51 GMT -5
I got #3 and #13. PM to follow.
not entirely sure why the thread was locked as I can't find any indications, but I'm unlocking in the interim. will re-lock if needed.
|
|
Virgil Showlion
Distinguished Associate
Moderator
[b]leones potest resistere[/b]
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 15:19:33 GMT -5
Posts: 27,448
|
Post by Virgil Showlion on Dec 26, 2012 21:32:55 GMT -5
Not sure why the thread was locked.
|
|
ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ
Community Leader
♡ ♡ BᏋՆᎥᏋᏉᏋ ♡ ♡
Joined: Dec 17, 2010 16:12:51 GMT -5
Posts: 43,130
Location: Inside POM's Head
Favorite Drink: Chilled White Zin
|
Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Dec 26, 2012 21:33:02 GMT -5
Maybe he wanted to give us time to read and study the clues - and then unlock at a later time for our answers - trouble is, the thread would have sunken down with less views.
|
|
Virgil Showlion
Distinguished Associate
Moderator
[b]leones potest resistere[/b]
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 15:19:33 GMT -5
Posts: 27,448
|
Post by Virgil Showlion on Dec 26, 2012 21:45:09 GMT -5
Just to clarify how the puzzle works: As you solve the clues, you insert the letters from the usernames you get into the puzzle on the top. For example, if you solve one of the clues: S Y O N I D V _ _ _ _ _ _ _ M 7 You would put 'Y' into the M slot in the main puzzle, and 'N' into the 7 slot in the main puzzle.
|
|
Apple
Junior Associate
Always travel with a sense of humor
Joined: Dec 17, 2010 15:51:04 GMT -5
Posts: 9,938
Mini-Profile Name Color: dc0e29
|
Post by Apple on Dec 26, 2012 21:46:41 GMT -5
4) 378 13) 1685
|
|
Apple
Junior Associate
Always travel with a sense of humor
Joined: Dec 17, 2010 15:51:04 GMT -5
Posts: 9,938
Mini-Profile Name Color: dc0e29
|
Post by Apple on Dec 26, 2012 21:53:37 GMT -5
1) 500
|
|
Apple
Junior Associate
Always travel with a sense of humor
Joined: Dec 17, 2010 15:51:04 GMT -5
Posts: 9,938
Mini-Profile Name Color: dc0e29
|
Post by Apple on Dec 26, 2012 21:56:56 GMT -5
2) 344
ok, one more before I don't get to write "who" anymore...
|
|
Apple
Junior Associate
Always travel with a sense of humor
Joined: Dec 17, 2010 15:51:04 GMT -5
Posts: 9,938
Mini-Profile Name Color: dc0e29
|
Post by Apple on Dec 26, 2012 21:58:49 GMT -5
3) 1040
|
|
ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ
Community Leader
♡ ♡ BᏋՆᎥᏋᏉᏋ ♡ ♡
Joined: Dec 17, 2010 16:12:51 GMT -5
Posts: 43,130
Location: Inside POM's Head
Favorite Drink: Chilled White Zin
|
Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Dec 26, 2012 22:00:01 GMT -5
I'm thinking Mrs Virgil sent him to his room today to keep him out of her hair and this is what he came up with.
|
|
Virgil Showlion
Distinguished Associate
Moderator
[b]leones potest resistere[/b]
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 15:19:33 GMT -5
Posts: 27,448
|
Post by Virgil Showlion on Dec 26, 2012 22:04:23 GMT -5
I'm thinking Mrs Virgil sent him to his room today to keep him out of her hair and this is what he came up with. That is mostly a lie.
|
|
Jaguar
Administrator
Fear does not stop death. It stops life.
Joined: Dec 20, 2011 6:07:45 GMT -5
Posts: 50,108
Mini-Profile Background: {"image":"https://cdn.nickpic.host/images/IZlZ65.jpg","color":""}
Mini-Profile Text Color: 290066
|
Post by Jaguar on Dec 26, 2012 22:16:17 GMT -5
I'm thinking Mrs Virgil sent him to his room today to keep him out of her hair and this is what he came up with. That is mostly a lie. So then it's mostly true. How much snow on your end have you got already ?
|
|
Apple
Junior Associate
Always travel with a sense of humor
Joined: Dec 17, 2010 15:51:04 GMT -5
Posts: 9,938
Mini-Profile Name Color: dc0e29
|
Post by Apple on Dec 26, 2012 22:44:42 GMT -5
Got it
|
|
Jaguar
Administrator
Fear does not stop death. It stops life.
Joined: Dec 20, 2011 6:07:45 GMT -5
Posts: 50,108
Mini-Profile Background: {"image":"https://cdn.nickpic.host/images/IZlZ65.jpg","color":""}
Mini-Profile Text Color: 290066
|
Post by Jaguar on Dec 26, 2012 23:02:00 GMT -5
Good for you apple, congrats.
|
|
Virgil Showlion
Distinguished Associate
Moderator
[b]leones potest resistere[/b]
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 15:19:33 GMT -5
Posts: 27,448
|
Post by Virgil Showlion on Dec 26, 2012 23:59:04 GMT -5
Apple's solution was correct. Hence, the first place slot is taken. Hint 1: The length of the usernames can be a big help. Even if you have a clue narrowed down to five or six possible posters, chances are that only one of their usernames will fit into the number of letters indicated. Hint 2: Clicking the 'top #100 posters' link in the problem description and keeping it open can help immensely. Hint 3: Not all of the posters are active posters. Some have been banned. Hint 4: The quote for any poster can be found somewhere inside his/her last 100 posts in their post history. If you're not sure about a poster, simply look up his/her last 100 posts and search for a snippet of the quote.
|
|
weltschmerz
Community Leader
Joined: Jul 25, 2011 13:37:39 GMT -5
Posts: 38,962
|
Post by weltschmerz on Dec 27, 2012 1:01:22 GMT -5
All that work for a karma? Send cash. The answer is "A duck wearing a hat". (It's my default answer on Friday Night Trivia)
|
|
Virgil Showlion
Distinguished Associate
Moderator
[b]leones potest resistere[/b]
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 15:19:33 GMT -5
Posts: 27,448
|
Post by Virgil Showlion on Dec 27, 2012 1:55:55 GMT -5
All that work for a karma? Send cash. The answer is "A duck wearing a hat". (It's my default answer on Friday Night Trivia) Joke's on you. A little birdy told me that as a promotion for the new v5 boards, all NMSNM karma is going to be redeemable as raffle tickets for several fabulous prizes. The more karma you have, the greater your chance is to win.
|
|
ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ
Community Leader
♡ ♡ BᏋՆᎥᏋᏉᏋ ♡ ♡
Joined: Dec 17, 2010 16:12:51 GMT -5
Posts: 43,130
Location: Inside POM's Head
Favorite Drink: Chilled White Zin
|
Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Dec 27, 2012 2:02:20 GMT -5
I see your pants catching fire for that whopper. ;D
|
|
weltschmerz
Community Leader
Joined: Jul 25, 2011 13:37:39 GMT -5
Posts: 38,962
|
Post by weltschmerz on Dec 27, 2012 2:43:41 GMT -5
Joke's on you.
A little birdy told me that as a promotion for the new v5 boards, all NMSNM karma is going to be redeemable as raffle tickets for several fabulous prizes. ---------------- I find that highly unlikely. In any case, this being EE, the prizes would probably be booze. I already have more liquor in the house than I know what to do with. Want some?
|
|
Virgil Showlion
Distinguished Associate
Moderator
[b]leones potest resistere[/b]
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 15:19:33 GMT -5
Posts: 27,448
|
Post by Virgil Showlion on Dec 27, 2012 2:46:11 GMT -5
I see your pants catching fire for that whopper. ;D ;D I was honestly thinking about the idea, though. When the time comes to move over to v5, as an incentive I would buy up four or five $25.00 Starbucks or Chapters/Indigo gift cards and raffle them off based on karma for all members who transition to the new board. Maybe a $75.00 grand prize in a raffle for posters who promise to invite at least one friend to check out the v5 board. Just a little promotion to make sure we don't lose too many during the transition.
|
|
Apple
Junior Associate
Always travel with a sense of humor
Joined: Dec 17, 2010 15:51:04 GMT -5
Posts: 9,938
Mini-Profile Name Color: dc0e29
|
Post by Apple on Dec 27, 2012 8:08:12 GMT -5
It's not that I need/feel like the karma, it's that I have no life and it was something kinda fun to do--I like problem solving, even goofy problems
|
|
Deleted
Joined: Sept 29, 2024 9:23:49 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2012 9:05:34 GMT -5
"Be sure to drink your Ovaltine"??!?!
|
|
Jaguar
Administrator
Fear does not stop death. It stops life.
Joined: Dec 20, 2011 6:07:45 GMT -5
Posts: 50,108
Mini-Profile Background: {"image":"https://cdn.nickpic.host/images/IZlZ65.jpg","color":""}
Mini-Profile Text Color: 290066
|
Post by Jaguar on Dec 27, 2012 10:41:26 GMT -5
I see your pants catching fire for that whopper. ;D ;D I was honestly thinking about the idea, though. When the time comes to move over to v5, as an incentive I would buy up four or five $25.00 Starbucks or Chapters/Indigo gift cards and raffle them off based on karma for all members who transition to the new board. Maybe a $75.00 grand prize in a raffle for posters who promise to invite at least one friend to check out the v5 board. Just a little promotion to make sure we don't lose too many during the transition. Ah Virgil, I've already been doing all that. I've been pming peeps trying to rile up the troops and I have managed with a few. So I've been there and I've done that. Where have YOU been ?
|
|
Virgil Showlion
Distinguished Associate
Moderator
[b]leones potest resistere[/b]
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 15:19:33 GMT -5
Posts: 27,448
|
Post by Virgil Showlion on Dec 27, 2012 14:52:54 GMT -5
Too much guzzlin'. Not enough puzzlin'. Come on, my fellow EEers. Pull your noodles out of the holiday mothballs and solve that puzzle.
|
|
Virgil Showlion
Distinguished Associate
Moderator
[b]leones potest resistere[/b]
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 15:19:33 GMT -5
Posts: 27,448
|
Post by Virgil Showlion on Dec 27, 2012 14:59:55 GMT -5
|
|