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Post by WannabeWealthy on Aug 4, 2011 22:39:41 GMT -5
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Post by ❤ mollymouser ❤ on Aug 4, 2011 23:30:23 GMT -5
I did not see the term "tea partier" in the story you have linked.
Your headline is misleading and inaccurate.
The ACTUAL headline of the story: Disapproval rate for Congress at record 82% after debt talks
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Post by WannabeWealthy on Aug 5, 2011 6:58:12 GMT -5
I did not see the term "tea partier" in the story you have linked. Your headline is misleading and inaccurate. The ACTUAL headline of the story: Disapproval rate for Congress at record 82% after debt talks The headline is a generalization of what the article is saying about the general disapproval of Congress and specifically which body stands out the most in the poll: The Republicans and Tea Party - but I changed it. ;D -M
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Post by mmhmm on Aug 5, 2011 6:58:51 GMT -5
You really do need to change the thread title to reflect the information to which you're linking, shaderhacker. The information you've linked to isn't talking about a part of congress (Repubs and tea partiers). It's talking about all of congress. That would include Democrats, as well as Independents, and any other party therein represented. Please change your title to so reflect.
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Post by WannabeWealthy on Aug 5, 2011 7:00:13 GMT -5
You really do need to change the thread title to reflect the information to which you're linking, shaderhacker. The information you've linked to isn't talking about a part of congress (Repubs and tea partiers). It's talking about all of congress. That would include Democrats, as well as Independents, and any other party therein represented. Please change your title to so reflect. mmhmm, P&M Moderator Changed.
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Post by mmhmm on Aug 5, 2011 7:22:37 GMT -5
Thanks, Shaderhacker. Much appreciated.
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Post by privateinvestor on Aug 5, 2011 7:40:31 GMT -5
I just wonder who are the @18% who approve of the job congress is doing? They must be living in another world or on Mars, possibly because out here on the left coast anyone in congress is persona non grata in both parties especially those who voted for the recent debt ceiling bill.... I actually do believe many conservatives on both sides of the aisle do approve of the Tea Party members of congress. Without the Tea Party you would not have seen so much focus on cutting spending and NOT increasing taxes during this economic slowdown..IMHO
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Post by Bluerobin on Aug 6, 2011 7:13:09 GMT -5
No matter how you slant it, congress is at an all time low for approval. "re-elect" no one is my new mantra. If we change the face of congress next election, we stand a small chance the arrogant bastards might listen.
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Post by upstatemom on Aug 6, 2011 7:48:54 GMT -5
No matter how you slant it, congress is at an all time low for approval. "re-elect" no one is my new mantra. If we change the face of congress next election, we stand a small chance the arrogant bastards might listen.
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Post by privateinvestor on Aug 6, 2011 8:08:32 GMT -5
That about says it all.. Repubs and tea partiers are the most disliked in Congress and yet, we voted for them. How ironic.
You forgot to include Liberals and Obama in your negative rants which says you may have a case of denial or bias or maybe both??
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Aug 6, 2011 9:05:57 GMT -5
No, what this tells us is that the GOP sold out the TEA Party, the TEA Party was right- the Republicrats / Demopubs were wrong-- and that is the long and short of why Congress continues to be viewed in such a negative light.
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Post by Opti on Aug 6, 2011 9:06:06 GMT -5
I read this in an article in yesterday's? New York Times. Since the Times has tracked Congress's approval rating, 1977, it has the lowest rating ever. Overall the Republicans got a I think something like a 76% disapproval rate and the Democrats 69%? Even though the difference between the two was statistically significant the important takeaway for me was 2/3rds or more of those polled disapproved of the politicking the Pubs and Dems are doing instead of working for the people. Those polled said they wanted jobs to be priority one and the debt plus dumbass grandstanding was too much.
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Post by Opti on Aug 6, 2011 9:10:15 GMT -5
No, what this tells us is that the GOP sold out the TEA Party, the TEA Party was right- the Republicrats / Demopubs were wrong-- and that is the long and short of why Congress continues to be viewed in such a negative light. I think the article and myself will point the problem is everyone is wrong if they don't work together for the common good are just in for their own personal gain or bragging rights political points. You love to talk about how the Tea Party and the Repubs shouldn't give in because God forbid they would give Obama a "win" or some legacy he IYO doesn't deserve. In the same article the President's approval rating was in the high 40 percentile for both disapprove and approve. Do you, the Tea Party and the current Repubs give any mind to what kind of legacy they are creating?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2011 11:01:34 GMT -5
Disapproval rating of Congress 82%OK I had to pull off my shoes for this one but that means that 18% of people approve of congress. (100-82=18). How in the hell could that be? ? Did they poll the brain dead & take twitches as a yes? Did they ask something like "Would you approve of having sexual Congress with your cousin (or sister)"? Surely there aren't 18 out of 100 people out there that think congress is doing a good job? I'm just blown away.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2011 11:03:54 GMT -5
Oh & get real. Don't try to put a spin on this & blame the Tea Party for the low rating. To do that is to become an ostrich & put your head in the sand.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 6, 2011 11:15:11 GMT -5
No, what this tells us is that the GOP sold out the TEA Party, the TEA Party was right- the Republicrats / Demopubs were wrong-- and that is the long and short of why Congress continues to be viewed in such a negative light. i have more sympathy for this position than the "blame Obama" BS. there was no way Obama was going to see a bill that would pass both houses AND please S&P. he was in a no-win situation. but congress wasn't.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 6, 2011 11:16:11 GMT -5
So, is this another subtle thread to bash the Tea Party or what? Sheesh. What % of the Congress are "tea party"? 15?
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Post by Bluerobin on Aug 6, 2011 11:26:04 GMT -5
Could the tea party be the 18% that approve?
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 6, 2011 12:12:05 GMT -5
Could the tea party be the 18% that approve? the number is suspiciously close to the % of TP'ers in congress.
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Post by handyman2 on Aug 6, 2011 17:04:48 GMT -5
After the down grade I would put money on that number getting close to 100%
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Post by kadee79 on Aug 6, 2011 20:40:46 GMT -5
I think they asked the wrong people to begin with...it had to be closer to 98-99% disapproval!
They need a recount!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by ungenteel on Aug 6, 2011 22:56:59 GMT -5
I'm ready for a parliamentary system ... with the current polarization ... congress is dysfunctional to a crisis point
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Aug 6, 2011 23:01:31 GMT -5
No, what this tells us is that the GOP sold out the TEA Party, the TEA Party was right- the Republicrats / Demopubs were wrong-- and that is the long and short of why Congress continues to be viewed in such a negative light. I think the article and myself will point the problem is everyone is wrong if they don't work together for the common good are just in for their own personal gain or bragging rights political points. You love to talk about how the Tea Party and the Repubs shouldn't give in because God forbid they would give Obama a "win" or some legacy he IYO doesn't deserve. In the same article the President's approval rating was in the high 40 percentile for both disapprove and approve. Do you, the Tea Party and the current Repubs give any mind to what kind of legacy they are creating? Nope. What happened was this: Obama wouldn't give in because he wanted to "win" by locking in spending and blaming the GOP for a shutdown / default (both of which were false threats). The GOP was afraid Obama would blame them - and succeed at blaming them. Both did the wrong thing for the wrong reasons. The TEA Party was right. The TEA Party knows that not only were there no budget cuts-- NONE-- but that spending will continue to go up every year just as it has every year. The TEA Party knows this isn't a political game. The TEA Party wants a win for American. The TEA Party knew the debt downgrade was coming unless REAL steps were taken-- both parties instead took symbolic / fake steps so they could claim victory. TEA Partiers were the ONLY ones not playing bullshit games with America's future.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Aug 6, 2011 23:05:18 GMT -5
The reason for the low approval rating of Congress is simple: the debt deal and everything else to come out of there is business as usual. America voted to STOP this government, take away its credit card, and put it on a budget. Both parties have continued to govern against the will of the people. The TEA Party is the most important grassroots political movement in our lifetimes, because for the first time there are some people in Washington who aren't there to "get things done" they're there to STOP it. The voters weren't sending their representatives to Washington in 2010 to play "Let's make a deal" they were sent there to say, "This is the deal".
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Post by ungenteel on Aug 6, 2011 23:06:13 GMT -5
<<The TEA Party was right. The TEA Party knows that not only were there no budget cuts-- NONE-- but that spending will continue to go up every year just as it has every year. The TEA Party knows this isn't a political game. The TEA Party wants a win for American. The TEA Party knew the debt downgrade was coming unless REAL steps were taken-- both parties instead took symbolic / fake steps so they could claim victory. TEA Partiers were the ONLY ones not playing bullshit games with America's future. >>
Do you have an effing clue what would happen immediately to our economy if government expenditures were drastically reduced on the button?
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Post by Bluerobin on Aug 7, 2011 5:23:17 GMT -5
The tea party is a bunch of short sighted idiots who don't have the balls to form their own party, but have made an obstruction faction within the pub party. May they speed their own demise.
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Post by privateinvestor on Aug 7, 2011 7:31:42 GMT -5
The tea party is a bunch of short sighted idiots who don't have the balls to form their own party, but have made an obstruction faction within the pub party. May they speed their own demise. The Tea Party were responsible for the shellacking that the liberals got in the mid term elections.. If it were not for the Tea Party, Pelosi would still be the Speaker of the House and there would be NO debt reduction but rather increased spending and increased taxes as the solution to the debt crisis. They just might be responsible for more Liberals including Obama taking early retirement in 2012...so deal with that..
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Post by mwcpa on Aug 7, 2011 7:44:43 GMT -5
the 18% is probably the Congressional staffers, Congress-person's family members, etc that may have been in the poll...
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Post by Bluerobin on Aug 7, 2011 8:01:10 GMT -5
PI, the libs were responsible for the shellacking they got in the mid terms. The tea partiers were just the beneficiaries. All radicals tend to view their good fortune as a mandate when it is nothing more than a reaction to something else. Watch the mandate against the tea party in 2012, the 82% disapproval rating should be your first clue. The tea party is just a faction that was too radical to get elected before, but lucked out when the libs did such a poor job with both majorities and a president. ETA: I know I have had it with symbolic votes and obstructionism, as have many others.
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Post by privateinvestor on Aug 7, 2011 8:32:16 GMT -5
PI, the libs were responsible for the shellacking they got in the mid terms. The tea partiers were just the beneficiaries. All radicals tend to view their good fortune as a mandate when it is nothing more than a reaction to something else. Watch the mandate against the tea party in 2012, the 82% disapproval rating should be your first clue. The tea party is just a faction that was too radical to get elected before, but lucked out when the libs did such a poor job with both majorities and a president. ETA: I know I have had it with symbolic votes and obstructionism, as have many others. Then if what you say is factual why did @60 new members of congress thank the Tea Party for helping them get elected to congress???
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